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Florida vS. Alabama (poll plz!!!)

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Who is the biggest and baddest?

  • Alabama

    Votes: 11 45.8%

  • Florida

    Votes: 6 25.0%

  • D's nutz

    Votes: 7 29.2%
  • Total voters
    24
  • Poll closed .
3 said:
Only one team uses the wildcat successfully and unless he happens to fall into the third round they're not picking him. Tebow has no chance in the NFL. It's a shame too, because if Meyer prepared him properly for the NFL by teaching him how to play like any kind of pro-style QB he might have had the slightest chance. You also have to keep in mind the tremendous wear and tear this guy has taken playing both FB and QB. He may not have been too injury prone at UF but it will catch up to you. Some coaches really don't care about the well being of their players.
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wrong. as much as I dislike Tim Teblow I think that he will have success at the next level at... gasp! quarterback.

Tim Tebow should be paying the Tennessee Titans own Vince Young millions of dollars. because Young proved that a running QB can learn how to run and pass at the same time, if they have some pre-NFL passing discipline (which Tebow does). if Young didn't have his breakout season this year than I doubt Tebow would have been drafted as a QB at all - but because of Young's successes I think that he will be picked up.
 
a struggling team would find success building a Young/Vick style offense around tebow, but a lot comes down to how well he tests in the combine, and whether he can adapt his natural abilities to some semblance of an NFL-style passing offense.

Some successful college QBs just can't-- and in Tebow's case, that's ok, since I'm sure he'd be very happy doing genital mutilations on philippino babies and hurling bibles at people anyway.
 
Young/Vick and Tebow are two totally different types of QB's. Young and Vick bring elite speed to the table, whereas Tebow thrived on his power as a runner, which isn't going to matter in the NFL. Vick and Young were also capable of making better throws and were involved in much more complicated passing schemes. Tebow has shown very little ability to make good decisions as a passer. He is in a gimmicky system that is predicated on his wide receivers being faster than the competition. That jump pass fake run shit won't fly in the NFL.

If Meyer had taught him proper passing skills and footwork this guy might have stood more of a shot. He's at least three years fro being any kind of starting caliber QB, and it's doubtful that even then he would pick it up.
 
Maybe God was punsihing Tebow and UF for having a drunk driver as well as a guy who tries to blind someone else on their team.

At any rate, Colt Mccoy and the Horns will be too much for Bama to handle.

Texas wins easily.
 
smotpoker said:
Maybe God was punsihing Tebow and UF for having a drunk driver as well as a guy who tries to blind someone else on their team.

At any rate, Colt Mccoy and the Horns will be too much for Bama to handle.

Texas wins easily.
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Don't forget about the guy who shot an AK-47 into the air and the one who stole a dead persons credit card. UF has had 9 players arrested for felonies since Meyer has been there.
 
3 said:
If Meyer had taught him proper passing skills and footwork this guy might have stood more of a shot. He's at least three years fro being any kind of starting caliber QB, and it's doubtful that even then he would pick it up.
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I love how you pin this on the coach-- why would he bother teaching him a system he wasn't going to use? Its not a coach's job to prepare you for the nfl; the job is to prepare you for next saturday.

That's what makes college ball more fun anyway-- the athleticism isn't as refined as in the pros, so you have room for a lot more diversity in strategy. I would be very bored with it if everybody ran an NFL passing offense.
 
I sincerely don't think Tebow will make it in the pros. As a QB he'll want to run too much, and he doesn't have the break-away speed to take it all the way like some of the other 'running QBs' have shown. There is no elusiveness, just a fullback pounding away...and that will significantly shorten his career in the NFL. Having his running as a fallback choice, and asking him to throw first...that won't work either. As much as we've loved having him, he hasn't been passing enough to even come close to handling an NFL type defense. They will eat his lunch. If he throws, they will pick him. If he runs, they will pound him. Either way, it's a short career, and not one that offers enough to a team to take a gamble on someone like that when they can get a real QB to throw or a real RB-FB to do the pounding = someone who has done these things for a career, and done them well. IF he gets drafted, I doubt he'll last more than 3 yrs, even with very limited playing time.
 
Pander Bear said:
^^
for you gaise

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/category/fulmer-cup/

I love how you pin this on the coach-- why would he bother teaching him a system he wasn't going to use? Its not a coach's job to prepare you for the nfl; the job is to prepare you for next saturday.

That's what makes college ball more fun anyway-- the athleticism isn't as refined as in the pros, so you have room for a lot more diversity in strategy. I would be very bored with it if everybody ran an NFL passing offense.
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One year of decent behavior does not excuse the previous three of totally crazy shit. The things some of the Florida players did were absolutely ridiculous.


And it is the coaches job to prepare players for the next level. Whether the players go on to the NFL or to some other career, the coaches at UF should look out for the futures of their players like many, many other schools do. The piddly graduation rate of UF's student-athletes are unacceptable for a top-flight university like Florida. Something like 18%.
 
First of all, this is all very funny coming from a Miami fan. Remember that bench clearing brawl? Your school is the school with the most indelible thug reputation. Second, how about a citation for an 18 percent graduation rate for student athletes from UF-- that's absurd.

Lastly, since tebow hasn't yet graduated, how meyer has prepared him isn't really something you're capable of speaking to.

For TLB:

If the past couple "dual threat" quarterback NFL careers have taught us anything, its that their strength isn't in running once they get flushed out of the pocket, its in making a defense respect the run. Tebow does it way too often and early to last long against an NFL defense, you're right-- but I think 3 years is a little gloomy. He's not going to be the next anybody, but he will make a few million, and probably start an orphanage like his folks or something. That's why this "meyer hasn't prepared him" line is so funny to me. Its not like we don't know what Tebow's priorities are. I doubt he desires/expects a long, illustrious NFL career. As dumb as it sounds to me, he's god-oriented, and his happiness doesn't come from football (if all indicators are to be believed)
 
Pander Bear said:
First of all, this is all very funny coming from a Miami fan. Remember that bench clearing brawl? Your school is the school with the most indelible thug reputation. Second, how about a citation for an 18 percent graduation rate for student athletes from UF-- that's absurd.

Lastly, since tebow hasn't yet graduated, how meyer has prepared him isn't really something you're capable of speaking to.

For TLB:
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Miami has one of the highest graduation rates in the country for student athletes and has had only one arrest since Randy Shannon took over, although the program has been amongst the cleanest in the country since Butch took over in the mid 90's. The image is long outdated. Besides, nothing that happened in the 80's was as bad as anything that has been going on at UF lately. The history has been way overblown.

The brawl was the result of an FIU player suckerpunching Miami's walk-on place holder, and then FIU suckerpunching the person who came to defend the place holder, and then Miami began fighting and kicked the shit out of FIU. I was at the stadium that night and it was totally called for and awesome. It was the greatest moment of a dismal season. But of course, the media blows it out of proportion because it's just Miami and we're thugs. Florida has 27 players arrested, 9 of them felonies in four years, and they are clean. Miami defends its walk-on kicker, and they are thugs.
 
smotpoker said:
Doesn't matter. Texas is going to wipe their asses with this games winner (yeah I'm jealous so what! I f'n hate Florida and wish bad things to Tim Teblow)
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Sorry,Texas cant compete with the SEC. I'm a UGA fan, I hate The gators, glad they lost. Tebow's a bitch. Alabama's gonna spank Texas!
 
Pander Bear said:
You are deluded if you think that's acceptable behavior.
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Well I guess I'm deluded because that fight was one of the best moments I've ever had at the Orange Bowl.

Never mind that fights are a nightly occurrence in Hockey.

Let me ask you a question. If the Gates were playing Troy and one of their players decided to punch their walk-on place holder and then proceeded to punch anybody who came to help him, what would you expect the Gators to do? Let a couple players get mauled by the entire Troy bench?
 
For one, you're talking to a UGA dawgs fan, not a Gator fan, in Mr. Bear. ;)

For two, your logic has more holes, and bigger holes, than the titanic. I can't even begin to build an argument against someone who indicates:

Never mind that fights are a nightly occurrence in Hockey.
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We're talking football, so why bring Hockey into this?


or this:
that fight was one of the best moments I've ever had at the Orange Bowl.
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following:
the program has been amongst the cleanest in the country since Butch took over in the mid 90's. The image is long outdated. Besides, nothing that happened in the 80's was as bad as anything that has been going on at UF lately. The history has been way overblown.
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I could bury you in your own quotes, piss on it with links to actual fuck ups related to Miami players, and walk away whistling "We are the boys"....but honestly, your side of the conversation simply isn't up to the effort.
 
please get rid of the ad-homs (personal attacks) here. I know things get heated in college football, but we are all respectable gentlemen here.

Miami has a solid history of thuggery in the late 80s/90s, and it seemed Jimmy Johnson brought that mentality to the Dallas Cowboys. however, Florida, like many many other college football programs (good or bad) is infected with people who don't know how to act. as a fellow somebody who has both a glorious criminal record and college football experience, I am not one to judge.

what about Michigan State who suspended about ten players for getting into brawls against a rival fraternity TWO DAYS in a row (one at a nightclub, one inside the college cafeteria)? I hate defending Florida, but stupidity is just synonymous when you play college football and you think you are invisible.

I think Tim Tebow will find some spot on an NFL team. if the NFL wasn't so anti-fullback he would be perfect at this spot. also, I think he could be an inside linebacker. he could do a lot of positions and I would be happy if my Pittsburgh Steelers drafted him.
 
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