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4-fluoromethcathinone
I'm wondering wheter this one would have some more entactogenic quality compared to 3-fluoromethcathinone as 4 fluoroamphetamine is a serotonin releaser. I have no idea how putting the fluoride group on a differend position affects this tough.
Also any info on the suspected toxiticy of this compound?
Thank you.
Iodjini_dk
Bluelighter
Search for 4-FMC or Flephedrone. There are a bunch of threads for this one.
The flephedrone thread are talking about 3-fluoromethcathinone.
ebola?
Bluelight Crew
then they're mistaken.
Confusion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flephedrone
Flephedrone is 4-FMC
3-FMC is not 4-FMC
Charge+ contains 3-FMC
Tried this and I must say it just felt like a very clear-headed cocaine-like high. It seems to occupy the pristine middle ground between coke and E. You don't feel tweaked out, you don't feel loved up, you just feel *perfectly, properly stimulated*. Also the duration is short. And it's expensive.
I know, there has been some confusion about this in the other fleph tried as ppl assumed charge contained fleph.
drug_FUCKED
Bluelighter
I'd be very interested MeDieViL in what it was like?
drug_FUCKED
Bluelighter
I was very interested to see what 4-fluoromethcathinone was like?
how long it lasted?
dose?
effects?
similar to anything else?
I can't PM yet for some reason wtf nice lists? greenlighters? bluelights, all sorts of types of members i'm lost 50 more posts. 
oh well
ebola?
Bluelight Crew
From my view, you need one more post before becoming a bluelighter.
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I'm also interested in a trip-report--it would be most rare and valuable.
ebola
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
The 4-position on the phenyl ring is the site of metabolic attack (4-hydroxylation). By blocking this it probably increases it's half life as the only other routes left are N-demethylation & reduction of the ketone to give an alcohol (4-fluoroephedrine). This seems to be considerably less toxic than 4-methylephedrine (mephedrone's main metabolite).
How the 3 fluoro compound is metabolized will be similar, but 1) I don't know how that'll effect the serotonogic aspect of activity & 2) how this will impact on metabolism ie is it still 4-hydroxylated
I like it, it has a pretty narrow therapeutic index tough, i found out the hard way (bad paranoia when dosing too much).
Its definatly not a party drug or entactogen tough but for at home it makes up for a good drug.
I'l write a better report later today as my RLS is being pretty bad atm.
Sameria
Bluelighter
Looks interesting. Just had a quick search and it appears there isn't much info on this particular chem on the intarwebs.
Does anybody have any further details particularly on synth and dosage/experiences?
Thats great news that it wont be as bad as mephedrone f&b!
I started off with a few lines (dont know the dosage as i've been eyeballing them, started with small coke like lines) which i didnt get much effect from.
30 minutes later i added in 2 more decent lines and got coke like effects from this substance, i quite liked the effect but i was looking for something more mephedrone like as i was attending to go to a rave later.
This resulted i me bombing a 200mg dose (as i tought it just wasnt potent so a bigger dose wouldnt hurt) this resulted in some terrible paranoia. After this point i didnt take any more.
It seems quite easy to overdose on this substance, its nothing like mephedrone at all, its also isnt potent so not really suited as a party drug imo.
But i did like it better then coke, i'm not a coke fan but i found this substance to be coke like in a good way.
Id say dont take more then 150 mg and look for coke like effects, certainly dont expect too much from this substance.
It definatly has its uses but not as a party drug for me.
I think that in combination with methylone this may be a good mephedrone alternative.
Oh yeah id like to add that i dont think meph is like coke at all, its like mdma and this one is like coke imo.
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fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
Yeah one of the EADD regulars who (really) likes his coke has good things to say about 4-FMC. Def not like mephedrone, for which we should all be grateful!
Id like something mephedrone like, without the bad metabolite offcourse
. Plain stimulants tend to induce paranoia when dosing too high, i really gotta be carefull with them, while i dont have this with mephedrone or MDMA etc.
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
Don't take as much then - simple solution!
I'm on it again right now, its a differend batch from last time, crystals this time, burns to snort.
This stuff seems to be very mild, i feel good, feel like talking but its really a in the background high like coke.
I learned my lesson from last time that this feeling wont get better if i keep on dosing, it feels very benign tough.
Its good for on those occasions you dont want to be completely fucked.
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it seems like methcathinones no matter what the substitution are all mostly dopaminergic stims, I dont think replacing the methyl/methoxy with a fluoro doing anything spectacular. My placeboish experience with methylone makes me apprehensive about ordering any of these methcathinones cuz even though they're real cheap now, they still seem like a waste of money to me.
Even though cathinones are rather unstable I'd rather try them, I think they have more potential. 4-methyl/methoxy-cathinone. Adding a more serotogenic edge. I really doubt it will have any of the worrisom side effects that PMA have. These cathinone although chemically and somewhat pharmalogically similar to amphetamines seem to be their own thing, kinda like how the piperazines are similar yet totally their own thing if u get my line of reasoning.
I dont think adding something weak/subtle like a fluoro to a cathinone will have much if any impact at all. the cathinones are already "weak" drugs and i think a fluoro will only diminish activity somewhat
