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The Feeling of being One

ColinGibs

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More often than not on here, people tend to post things like:

"OMG I felt like I was one with everyything and all, like were all um connected ur somthing!, ACCID makes me feel like that and all trippy stuff"

"I actully felt like part of something"

you gotta stop that.

And realize that we are like that. The drugs are just teaching you. If you view your experiences in this way, you are cutting your mind off from being able to naturally meditate into that feeling.

It seems to be most often with our younger, more mainstream people who mainly use their drugs socially.

So humans, please don't confine your feeling of oneness to a production of a chemical. The chemicals are there to help you increase the lens of your perception back in your life trip. To help you gain a greater understanding of oneness overall. NOT just during a trip.

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Colin I agree with you in the sense that too many people find introspection in their acid as opposed to those who find acid in their search for introspection. We just need to put preconceptions behind us and look at the greater picture. Ego step aside.

But I wouldn't blame all the young mainstream audience for what they do. It would seem apparent they use the drugs for a different reason then the more mature audience, but if we were still their age we would do the same thing. The truth is they are searching for the same thing we are essentially, they just don't know it or haven't realized it yet.

The youth of today was raised in a fucked up culture. At least here in the US, most of them lived through a whole decade of bush war policy that destroyed the already fragile economic standing of the country. They had to grow up in houses that were being foreclosed on or hear that one of their parents have lost a job and their will be less money/food on the table.

Thats difficult to hear when you are young and everyone around you seems to have more. High School is a cruel place man. Many kids feel lost.
 
Without a psychedelic introducing me to these ideas, I wouldn't have them in my every day (sober) life.

I don't know why you're talking down to people like this, it makes me happy when people discover new things that will put a positive push to their lives. It's not like very many people take a psychedelic and then feel like the need to have the chemical to grasp these concepts. More often than not, they carry them into their daily lives. Especially if they stumble on a community like PD.

I can speak from experience and say learning about the world around/in us this way does NOT cut you off from anything. Being condescending to people does, however.

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"OMG I felt like I was one with everyything and all, like were all um connected ur somthing!, ACCID makes me feel like that and all trippy stuff"

"I actully felt like part of something"

you gotta stop that.



It seems to be most often with our younger, more mainstream people who mainly use their drugs socially.



ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Colin Im thinkin maybe you should lay off the Psychs for awhile. You have been super jaded lately.

You need to chill out and feel the good vibes my brotha. We are all here to help you. You are here to help us. But dont force yer views and opinions onto people who are not ready to here them yet.

Eventually people will learn for themselves. They have to learn for themselves or it doesnt count as them truly understanding. I know you are frustered trust me I know but we cant control society my friend.

And what with your vendetta against the mainstream youth? Ignorant as they may be they still dont need more of your dictation. No one should be forced to think your way. Let them choose for themself.

Look inside yourself Colin. You know who you really are. Utalize your energy to be more positive and open. Stop Hiding.

Mellow out dude. If you need a friend I am here for you.
 
So humans, please don't confine your feeling of oneness to a production of a chemical. The chemicals are there to help you increase the lens of your perception back in your life trip. To help you gain a greater understanding of oneness overall. NOT just during a trip.

I agree with you here. Psychs show us what is possible, but some people become more attached to the feeling of the drug itself than what they learn from the drug. I don't understand why you would say people have to stop that. A lot of people really haven't ever experienced that feeling of oneness. We live in a society that promotes ideas of selfishness and competition, and to feel that feeling for the first time is awe-inspiring. Why would you try and repress their sense of expression? Encourage it, I say.

Maybe next time you here someone exclaiming this, you can put the idea in their mind of taking that feeling they are experiencing into their daily life, outside of only being under the influence.

Just be positive about it.

The second guy I ever got a light show from, afterwards he was spitting all kinds of his philosophy about PLUR and what raving is about to me, and taking those ideas outside of the rave environment, spreading those vibes to all people. I will never forget that conversation, it was like he programmed my mind in some way.
I think if he was metaphorically speaking down on me, it would not have had the same effect.
 
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I don't know why you're talking down to people like this, it makes me happy when people discover new things that will put a positive push to their lives
i didn't understand his post as being against this at all

what seems to bother him is on the contrary that many people consider these experiences as illusions brought by the influence of drugs rather than true revelations

i also don't see anything condescending about pointing out that this is more frequent with people who take psychedelics to get fucked than with those who take them out of curiosity, research, etc.
it's just a fact
 
Without a psychedelic introducing me to these ideas, I wouldn't have them in my every day (sober) life.

I don't know why you're talking down to people like this, it makes me happy when people discover new things that will put a positive push to their lives. It's not like very many people take a psychedelic and then feel like the need to have the chemical to grasp these concepts. More often than not, they carry them into their daily lives. Especially if they stumble on a community like PD.

I can speak from experience and say learning about the world around/in us this way does NOT cut you off from anything. Being condescending to people does, however.

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I guess i didn't think of this. I guess some people get so sucked into what the think reality is supposed to be like that it all passes by accordingly without provoking any new thought..

But I believe and know, that all of you who say that you wouldn't have had those thoughts, are only limiting yourselves by thinking that.

No one is on a higher pedestal. I never look at myself as on one. I view everyone as exactly the same, but with slightly different programming, but we all have the same energy within us. Ignorance produces negativity.

The youth are totally raised in a fucked up culture. Especially in America. So many things that many consider "good" or "normal" are actually supressing us emotionally/mentally/spiritually. The food we eat, the things we watch, everything.

I never intended my post to be condescending.

I found those quotes all over PD and bluelight in general.

It is not false, that if you use psychs for party purposes or solely to get "fucked up", or you rely on them as your "spiritual guides" in any way, it has an adverse affect on your ability to have new thought in the future. This is hugely documented. It's why the drugs are illegal.

There are a LOT of younger, more mainstream people. And saying that is not condescending. I'm merely speaking of the personality type that is still stunted by mainsteam society in the way that they look outside of themselves for their main source of happiness. The one that feels "happy" when they get a new coat still.

On this site we wide variety of drug users. But in reality there are many more who are still pounding away at their heads with these chemicals without being properly prepped in life.

And also, I put those examples out because they are true. And maybe people who write that stuff all over the boards can look at this and it will spark a reaction of thought which could lead to improvement. Obviously other things aren't working as well. It still constantly happens.

And plus, anyone who has enough control to meditate and understands how to work with their energy, try feeling it after you use psychs a bunch, it diminishes. Quite a bit. No doubt it comes back. But hedonistic psychedelic use combined with the inability to step outside ones

And Jam Uh Weezy, I am that guy reprogramming peoples heads with plur after lightshow haha.

How was I condescending?? If I was, it was my error in the written language. But all I see is Roger&me gettting (offended maybe) by a pretty accurate label that wasn't derogatory in any way

iNOVA i like what you said..

Nearjat you obviously are one of those people I was talking about, who does lack the real life experience that should make a person realize we are all the same, which sucks. But like iNOva said, most eventually do, or we get old and grumpy. And then you just selectively interpreted my OP as condescending, because Roger wrote that right under it, even though it really wasn't. You obviously have never been able to fully open up to anyone in any way.

And yes, relying on psychs as your window to oneness or the spiritual side of things or whatever you want to call it, has a reverse psychological effect on your perception of these feelings off of drugs. It's why so many users stop eventually and then end up becoming sickeningly normal. Why there are so many ex-hippy conservative democrat middle class parents after the 60s.

Can someone, for once one Bluelight, add something to a post that expands it instead of contracting and bending it.

Many of you who posted still view people as being somehow any different from yourself. You don't realize that you are indeed everyone. If one learns to accept this and approach everyone like this all of the time, it can lead to much more than the way society functions now.

IT IS NO MEASURE OF HEALTH TO BE WELL ADJUSTED TO A PROFOUNDLY SICK SOCIETY- Jiddu Krishnamurti

We all know society suck the way it is, but it all lies within us. We have the power to be completely free, we just hold ourselves back most of the time. The world holds us back. But inside were all the same. It's been almost 2010 years of being in this basically Christian controlled and influenced world, that has no purpose other than to keep us under control and confused about why we are here. They even reworked our feeling of happiness to try to emotionally enslave us. People just need to educate themselves.

My purpose here is clear to me, I'm here to change this. In this constant battle of light and dark in the world, I am the grey blurred between the two. In more ways than one. It may seem strange to some of you, but a new age is starting. And if now isn't the time to change, when the fuck is it? I'm sure not wasting any time on this plane focusing on trying to achieve some sort of consistent happiness. It all lies within. There is no reason to feel anything negative. All bodies can be a conduit for light, and it will in turn power their minds to change others.

A huge culture shift is going to happen soon with the massive ratio of under 30s to adults in the States.. Most of the elderly are going to die in the next 15-20 years. Lets not get sucked into this bullshit again people! You know you don't want to!

You wanna be free! You wanna fuck and eat and get high and enjoy this planet to it's fullest. So STOP trying to be individual, it makes you the same, stop having opinions, they can be changed, even for you. Stop assuming anything. and just BE. If you can achieve this without drugs. You will have found the spirit within you, and your life will be guided towards light.


It's quite impossible to convey emotion correctly through internet typing. So don't take anything condescendingly, it wasn't in that tone lol
 
i didn't understand his post as being against this at all

what seems to bother him is on the contrary that many people consider these experiences as illusions brought by the influence of drugs rather than true revelations

i also don't see anything condescending about pointing out that this is more frequent with people who take psychedelics to get fucked than with those who take them out of curiosity, research, etc.
it's just a fact

eeek I love you! it just took me like 30 minutes to write that same thing. Thank you thank you that is indeed correct.
 
The youth are totally raised in a fucked up culture. Especially in America. So many things that many consider "good" or "normal" are actually supressing us emotionally/mentally/spiritually. The food we eat, the things we watch, everything.



My purpose here is clear to me, I'm here to change this. In this constant battle of light and dark in the world, I am the grey blurred between the two. In more ways than one. It may seem strange to some of you, but a new age is starting. And if now isn't the time to change, when the fuck is it? I'm sure not wasting any time on this plane focusing on trying to achieve some sort of consistent happiness. It all lies within. There is no reason to feel anything negative. All bodies can be a conduit for light, and it will in turn power their minds to change others.

You are an ego maniac. Your no savior or God to me. Go preach to your mainstream crowd of sheep. We here on Bluelight are not the problem. People like you are. Your a joke.

Please just chill out on all the ranting man. Seriously its only making you look bad. You seem like a cool open minded person but you don't act like it.
 
Um, judging people according to what they say on the internet makes you look like ... well, it makes you look like someone who thinks they're smart enough to judge someone based on what they say on the internet.

Who I'm talking to here is basically anyone's guess.
 
I completely agree that abusing psychs for recreational purposes or just because that is what you view to be the only way to this enlightenment is probably not the best reason to use them. However, I have used them recreationally, I have enjoyed the sense of enlightenment, and while there are ppl out there that trip just to get fucked up, it doesn't bother me. There are ppl that smoke pot every great while just to enhance creativity for certain work, or for any other personal reasons, but they usually don't attack those that smoke everyday just to relax.

I just worry about irresponsible use. If ur using responsibly, take whatever u want from it. I dont really care and it doesnt affect me. I know what I get from them, and I try to use them to reach a state I'm already striving for, but ive gotten used to the fact that not everyone does that. And I also believe some people aren't aware of what they're really accessing/learning/experiencing and its true significance. Purely speculation and maybe wrong, but it also seems the more naturally intuitive, curious, intelligent, and passionate for understanding someone is, the more likely they will gain more than just fun and sparkles from the experience. I love hearing about all psychedelic experiences though because though someone may not realize it, you can always see the magic in the giant dilated eyes when the wall between them and the world falls....I love it :)

Just say know, be safe, and what you learn is up to you

At first ur post seemed condescending and immature, but I think this is what u were talking about. Just phrased a little dickish :) lol

EDIT: And also, after reading ur looong post I completely agree, as I know many ppl here do, that things are changing now, pretty quickly. Yes, the old, and for the most part, last strong remnants of the old societal thinking and (mis)understanding, are probably going to be gone soon. When that happens I expect even quicker changes, but ur talking about a very radical shift, much more so than I think is possible to occur in any relatively short (our lifetime) time frame. A complete restructuring of society is going to take a long time, and I am quite hopeful for the changes I expect to see in my own lifetime. I don't regret not being born to grow up in the 60s as I used to, I think we will see a more sustained shift in personal thought and a greater compassion for the unity of the human {can't think of the right word here, consciousness?}. I hope for the best and am happy with any change. If we can do it, then that's some serious progress since just 50 years ago
 
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Nearjat you obviously are one of those people I was talking about, who does lack the real life experience that should make a person realize we are all the same, which sucks. But like iNOva said, most eventually do, or we get old and grumpy. And then you just selectively interpreted my OP as condescending, because Roger wrote that right under it, even though it really wasn't. You obviously have never been able to fully open up to anyone in any way.

You couldn't be more wrong sir. Really you've given me a million reasons to be quite angry with you, but that's a waste of energy. I made my decision about your post before reading any responses btw.

I really don't lack any life experience in the way you're suggesting. LSD helped put me in a certain mind frame temporarily, and I INTENTIONALLY used it to "practice" observing certain things in the universe. I've got enough mental maturity to see these "things" you're talking about, without drugs. It just happens that a very powerful trip made them real to me and much easier to integrate into my behavior.

You keep preaching that "everyone's the same" and simultaneously saying "you're one of those people".
 
wow, this thread went from interesting to tl;dr really fast

OP has a point, too often recreational psych users will not take anything back to the real world after they learn it. sometimes society has programmed them too well. i know i find myself slipping back into my old habits. it takes great willpower to effect real change in your own attitudes and actions. and besides, it's kinda hard to effectively change the world if the world thinks you're a complete hippie nutjob :)
 
You couldn't be more wrong sir. Really you've given me a million reasons to be quite angry with you, but that's a waste of energy. I made my decision about your post before reading any responses btw.

I really don't lack any life experience in the way you're suggesting. LSD helped put me in a certain mind frame temporarily, and I INTENTIONALLY used it to "practice" observing certain things in the universe. I've got enough mental maturity to see these "things" you're talking about, without drugs. It just happens that a very powerful trip made them real to me and much easier to integrate into my behavior.

You keep preaching that "everyone's the same" and simultaneously saying "you're one of those people".

Dude think before you speak.

You said in your previous posts, you would not have seen those things, or felt them without the use of the drugs. You needed a drug to make oneness feel real to you?

Everyone is the same, but programmed differently. No doubt the trip helped you get in touch with things when you weren't before, which is good. All I said previously was that it shouldn't be dependent on the experience. The same exact things exist without. It's science, religion, philosophy, sex, whatever.

We are all the same. But so many of you hide who you are because of the way you were raised. Quite a bit of "civilization" have no been able to open their eyes fully yet, they don't have the adequate mental strength or tools, which sometimes is a result of society in the first place.

Look at neurodocs post that should help you.
 
You are an ego maniac. Your no savior or God to me. Go preach to your mainstream crowd of sheep. We here on Bluelight are not the problem. People like you are. Your a joke.

Please just chill out on all the ranting man. Seriously its only making you look bad. You seem like a cool open minded person but you don't act like it.

of course im not a "god to you" And no, I keep my ego off as much as possible.

we all have "god inside us", aka a soul aka kundalini energy, whatever you want to interpret it as. You are the joke. You are the joke who will never contribute to anything in the world. And waste away with the old :).

And really guys. If like 60% of the people that respond to my posts just end up derailing them because they can grasp more than one concept at one time it's hard not to respond sounding like a dick sometimes, when half of you are dicks in the first place to me..

And you really don't know this ?

"The youth are totally raised in a fucked up culture. Especially in America. So many things that many consider "good" or "normal" are actually supressing us emotionally/mentally/spiritually. The food we eat, the things we watch, everything."

Seriously. Did you go to school at all? If you still deny that. No fucking doubt you can't see anything. Try doing some research.

You don't have to abandon happiness when you encounter truth. Truth is change. Lies are history...
 
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