The 3-FMC/4-FMC (Flephedrone) Megathread

[MeDieViL]

when it dis shit gonna start getting sold on a commercial level then? not just wierd obscure places in china you have to look hard for or whatever.

No idea, i actually expected this one to show up instead of buphedrone.

 

[moniorojo]

they print their own labels!

buy fleph in bulk... cut it 60:40... make up 1g baggys.... staple the printed label to the baggy!

So basically they're not Blow & Charge at all. Just a homemade mix of 60% pure flephedrone & 40% inactive cut.

That has a name: SCAM.

 

[bogman]

i dont have a problem with what that bloke is doing.
i dont use the head shops=i get my own stuff off the net.

most of his customers are happy with the product=imo better than the bzp/mcpp pills and the crap repress coke in ireland.
at 30 or 35euro a gram its cheaper than the coke thats about 50 or 60euro a gram.

 

[Acid4Blood]

That has a name: SCAM.

Totally true. A scam that people are HAPPILY willing to pay €35 a gram for.

at 30 or 35euro a gram its cheaper than the coke thats about 50 or 60euro a gram.

That is exactly the logic people who buy blow have.
"Its half the price of coke & it makes you feel better.... BARGAIN"

Idiots 8)

 

[infinity2k7]

Uhh if you are going to sell drugs you are going to want to make a decent profit. No ones doing it for fun just to supply you drugs. If its got an active substance and people enjoy it then its hardly a scam.

 

[MeDieViL]

Uhh if you are going to sell drugs you are going to want to make a decent profit. No ones doing it for fun just to supply you drugs. If its got an active substance and people enjoy it then its hardly a scam.

So if you buy coke and they give you mephedrone you wouldnt mind because you can get high?

 

[Evad]

that's not what is happening, people are paying for a gram of "legal high" and that's what they're getting

 

[MeDieViL]

that's not what is happening, people are paying for a gram of "legal high" and that's what they're getting

If i saw charge somewhere i would have wanted fleph, i'm srry i really cannot aprove this.. He could as well print a label with something else and sell that as a legal high instead of making it look like charge...

 

[Evad]

I assume charge is not a protected brand, they don't disclose the ingredients properly on their own packaging anyway. Charge is just a brandad legal high like all of the others, new names and bullshit blends constantly popping up. 95% of the people buying charge will not be aware that it is supposed to contain 3-Fluoromethcathinone (not flephedrone by the way). Legal high companies regularly change their own blends and mixes, it's a dubious market a brand is never a guarantee of a particular substance.

 

[tekkeN]

I would say that flephedrone is the dumbest sounding name for a drug ever? Not that makes it any less worth doing or anything, just think it will need a new street name if it ever wants to hang out with the cool drugs

 

[YaniCZka]

I would say that flephedrone is the dumbest sounding name for a drug ever? Not that makes it any less worth doing or anything, just think it will need a new street name if it ever wants to hang out with the cool drugs

hehe, totally agreed - it sounds to me lika a dog name... Flash would sound rather cool...

 

[Acid4Blood]

Uhh if you are going to sell drugs you are going to want to make a decent profit. No ones doing it for fun just to supply you drugs. If its got an active substance and people enjoy it then its hardly a scam.

The scam in question has nothing to do with cutting the active or overpricing the product to make a huge profit.

The scam is labeling the products with known brand names which indicate a specific active ingredient, when infact each brand they sell contains the same active.

Blow should be meph.
Charge should be 3-FMC.

But in this headshop, Blow is fleph & Charge is fleph.
The majority of people who buy these products really don't give a fuck what the active is tho, once it gets them high.

& generally the people who know the difference between these actives are the same people who know how much cheaper they are to buy online.

they don't disclose the ingredients properly on their own packaging anyway.

The reason for this is very simple.
The makers of Blow put "Contains Mephedrone/4-MMC" on the packet.... Average clueless Blow customer is sitting at home one day snorting his Blow & decides to google this Mephedrone stuff which is printed on his packet of Blow..... he hits search & google presents him with hundreds of mephedrone vendors, many selling 99.8% pure mephedrone for £10 a gram..... he is pleasantly suprised & realises he could save ALOT of money if he started buying it online....... thousands of other Blow consumers do the same thing....... headshop loses ALOT of profit..... headshop becomes stuck for an alternative legal stimulant to sell & as a result suffer a MASSIVE decrease in profits.

So, yesterday when picking up my gram of pure fleph, I said to the man in the shop.... "You're selling flephedrone as mepherdone... Flephedrone is practially unobtainable in pure form online so if you were to start selling pure flephedrone & labelling it as pure flephedrone, you could sell it for €45 a gram & people who want to obtain actual fleph (not 3-FMC) in pure form would most likely pay that due to it being a rarity for online vendors. & being the only shop in the area/county selling it would attract chem-enthusiasts from neighbouring areas." Seems like a good business plan to me!

 

[parttime crackhead]

^ did you actually copy & paste that to repeat yourself there? strange lol.

I'd say one of the reasons they don't list the ingredients is so they can change them up easily. Meph gets made illegal? stick something else in it. Fleph becomes hard to get? Replace it with fucking caffeine or something. Shady business but I wouldn't say ur man is any more shady then anyone else selling these branded "legal highs", not one of them lists the real ingredients, most people buying them have no clue & dont care what the real ingredients are. even those that apparently know what the real ingredients are don't really, they just take an educated guess at it for the most part.

The guys still a bit of a cunt though lol. Just not any more of a cunt than anyone else selling this gear.

Also, acid4blood, I don't see how he is selling flephedrone as mephedrone. Does it actually say anywhere on the packet that it's mephedrone? If people buying it knew that Blow was meant to contain mephedrone then surely they wouldn't buy it at the silly price & just buy pure meph?

 

[Tryptamite]

^Nobody has a clue. We are a minority in the drug taking world. I'd say 70% of people haven't a clue what they're taking and the other 29% are ill-informed. Even the people working in the headshops seem to have it wrong, unless they're deliberately trying to mislead customers for some reason. I've been told that "none of our products contain mephedrone". Flephedrone and 3-FMC are met with blank stares and a body language invitation to leave the shop.

I'm tempted to stand outside and educate people about the so called "legal highs" as they leave!

 

[Acid4Blood]

^ did you actually copy & paste that to repeat yourself there? strange lol.

oops! never even reailsed. fixed now

Also, acid4blood, I don't see how he is selling flephedrone as mephedrone. Does it actually say anywhere on the packet that it's mephedrone? If people buying it knew that Blow was meant to contain mephedrone then surely they wouldn't buy it at the silly price & just buy pure meph?

Fair point. I just made the blow=meph assumption from what I've heard on BL!

 

[moniorojo]

Anyway,
Does flephedrone have entactogen like quality or is it just a stimulant?
How does it compare to mephedrone? = Is it similar but softer? They are completely different? It's shit? it's great?

 

[MeDieViL]

Anyway,
Does flephedrone have entactogen like quality or is it just a stimulant?
How does it compare to mephedrone? = Is it similar but softer? They are completely different? It's shit? it's great?

I'd also like to know this.

 

[The Kid]

Medevil, I would say Meph is a lot stronger, although my experiences are limited to OTC products such as Charge which seems to contain 3-FMC as opposed to 4-FMC. I reckon its more like MDMA, whereas charge is more like coke. On meph I'm much more keen to listen dance music, where as on charge or whatever fleph product I prefer listening to hip hop and rarely have a desire to get up and dance! Meph gives me heavy eye wiggles, whilst they are a lot more moderate on charge etc.

I find charge etc feels more toxic, but this could be the cuts you get in charge etc. I sleep better on meph, but again that's prob due to the caffeine in the products. I also reckon my heart goes more mental on charge.

I chat more on charge too.

Snorting charge is not overly nice, whereas I reckon snorting meph is like snorting broken glass!

I really think both are suitable for different occasions. Charge is great for a session in the boozer with your crew, always a good laugh, whilst meph to me is better in house party type effort (or even in my own!)

 

[MeDieViL]

Allright thx!

 

[ungelesene_bettlek]

Anyway,
Does flephedrone have entactogen like quality or is it just a stimulant?
How does it compare to mephedrone? = Is it similar but softer? They are completely different? It's shit? it's great?

absolute shit. it feels like mephedrone minus the fun (no euphoria, just unpleasant physical stimulation), plus even more toxic effects. actually, it's more of a poison than a drug - I'm still feeling slight chest pain two weeks after trying it.

where as on charge or whatever fleph product

how often do we need to repeat that charge does not contain flephedrone (4-FMC), but 3-FMC, which is a different compound? maybe it should be tested if people are able to count to four when they register to bluelight?