Thoughts on Anhydrous Acetone wash of MDMA?

[SubliminalRaver]

Let's say you have some pills or some molly that you've tested and found mdxx in the stuff, what all does an Anhydrous Acetone wash clean from your stuff?

It's my understanding that most binders, caffeine, and impurities would easily be filtered in the event I did this but what else?

In your opinion would you find this to be a reasonable thing to do to your goods?

Edit: I apologize mods if this belongs in Advanced discussion but I chose ED because of the simplicity of an anhydrous acetone wash and filter and by doing so allowing for easier measurement for proper dosing and cleaner smoother rolls.

 

[Trilobite]

I've cleaned up some really dirty molly with anhydrous acetone, it turned a pile of yellow sticky goo into nice white powder.

In my case I wanted to remove whatever non-polar organic chemicals were left over from the synthesis. I have no clue what was in that shit, but I'm already putting my brain, liver, and other organs under stress by taking the MDMA, I didn't want to stress them additionally with god-knows-what chemical crap. Also, when it's not pure, then there's no way to measure an accurate dose.

If your molly is already nice and white, or at least only mildly tinged with colour, then there's not much point in washing it with acetone, because you will lose some MDMA in the process. However, if you know or strongly suspect it to be cut with something undesirable, then go ahead; it's up to you whether you think it's worth it.

I don't think all binders would dissolve very well, but it would depend on what they were made of. MDMA is only slightly soluble in acetone, which is why the method works; anything else that is insoluble in acetone will not be removed either. Caffeine is soluble, yes, so that should be removed.

 

[Zzyzx]

Moving to ADD

 

[wungchow]

just wash the pills/powder with cool acetone...MDMA HCl is only marginally soluble in acetone..

 

[poopstation]

just wash the pills/powder with cool acetone...MDMA HCl is only marginally soluble in acetone..

it's not the acetone that will cause the loss during the washes, it's the water content in the acetone. mdma hcl is fully soluble in water and there's always water in acetone. totally anhydrous acetone is quite hygroscopic so keeping it totally anhydrous for any length of time is challenging, luckily the water content is fairly little so losses are typically low especially if you do your best to dry out the acetone first. as recommended above you can use freezer-chilled acetone to help lower solubility even more.

as to whether the washes remove certain contaminants/impurities/etc well that just depends on their solubility and what contaminant specifically you're talking about. anything that isn't soluble in acetone will certainly not be removed.

the washes are great but they only clean the surface of the crystals, to get the impurities out of the crystal matrix you must recrystallize if you find that the acetone washes weren't enough. anhydrous IPA is a clear, easy choice for recrystallization solvent. then wash once more. you'd be amazed what the recrystallization solvent may pick up by what color it is after recrystallization. unreacted precursors (saf/isosaf/mdp2p) are your main contaminant as they have similar solubility to mdma freebase and follow through most typical work-ups that don't include an a/b.

 

[Qnick]

just wash the pills/powder with cool acetone...MDMA HCl is only marginally soluble in acetone..

that only applies to anhydrous acetone.

most acetone that is available has water in it, making it necessary to convert it to anhydrous acetone using epsom salts.

Otherwise the MDMA HCl would just dissolve in the water that's in most available acetone. Which would lead to a huge loss of your product in the wash.

 

[nuke]

You'll be able to clean synthetic impurities okay with anhydrous acetone, but for pill binders use an A/B extraction.

 

[/navarone/]

I was wondering if there are also ways to separate several synthetic byproducts or laces like PMA, and such...

 

[boohigh]

basically no - because PMA and amphetamine salts are have near identical properties MDMA Hcl have.

 

[misterpicky]

So, if you crush up a pill, you can actually remove some of the fillers/binders/impurities using acetone? And anhydrous acetone, how does that even exist if there isnt any water in it?

 

[dread]

So, if you crush up a pill, you can actually remove some of the fillers/binders/impurities using acetone? And anhydrous acetone, how does that even exist if there isnt any water in it?

Umm... yeah, but if anhydrous acetone is such a hard concept to grasp for you, you probably shouldn't attempt it.

 

[seep]

And anhydrous acetone, how does that even exist if there isnt any water in it?

It's acetone, not phlogiston.

 

[FlippingTop]

Damn those phlogistons