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Hostilis + Rue + LSD + Valium = safe?

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Medatripper Tates

Medatripper Tates

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I took a heavy dose of valium Monday night and it's now Wednesday. I've been tripping on acid ever since. I've also been fasting.

Would it be safe to take the rue + hostilis on Friday?
 
It would be as safe as it normally is but you definately won't have a decent DMT trip if you've tripped on acid within the last week or two because of the cross-tolerance.

You'll just vomit your guts up and barely get a threshold effect.
 
I agree that you couldn't call it efficient but there may be some effect after all. DMT has some serious overlap with the effect of LSD but not completely e.g. sigma receptor agonism.
I expect or predict effects to be diminished but not vanished.

Nevertheless it does not appear like a sound plan to me, its just overkill with that kind of timeframe.
 
Solipsis said:
Nevertheless it does not appear like a sound plan to me, its just overkill with that kind of timeframe.
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To each their own way of diving deep. Destruction leads to creation (sometimes).

And one of the main reasons I want to do this is is so I can puke my guts out.
 
Why would you want to puke your guts out. To emphasize "the purge" ?

Know that there are ayahuasqueros (who knows how many) that have much respect for someone whose
stomache is not really affected by the MAOI / DMT mix brew. In their eyes it reflects the purity of your body.
Stop and realize that before you glorify purging if thats what youre after.

Personally, I am open to the idea that modern science is not aware of stuff that happens in a yage ceremony
but at the very same time I think that ayahuasqueros lack the modern science to understand straightforward
physical reactions to the substances that are contained in hostilis / rue.

How probable is it that they incorporate some kind of explanation for the physical side effects? I dunno... I
respect aya but to me it seems like people.. just barf.
 
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Surely if you wanted to throw your guts up you could just drink some mustard...
 
Medatripper Tates said:
To each their own way of diving deep. Destruction leads to creation (sometimes).

And one of the main reasons I want to do this is is so I can puke my guts out.
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You've been fasting- what would you purge? I'd suggest that you mwould be racked by dry heaving and stomach cramps; if your gong to do ths, use caapi instead of rue. That stuff willm ake you vomt, but it feels cleansing. :)

BTW, the combo your suggesting is really stupid. :\
 
swilow said:
You've been fasting- what would you purge?
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well not only stomach contents but the contents of your entire gastrointestinal system, this is why it is good for ridding of parasites
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Liver flukes, pinworms, giardia, varied bacterial, fungal and yeast colonies, small fish, coins, marbles.
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Seems healthy to me. %)

BTW, the combo your suggesting is really stupid. :\
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The valium has already worn off (I took it monday) and it's only Wednesday night now. I plan to dose the mimosa late Friday. I have heard that LSD and Hostilis is a great combo from certain users.
 
Medatripper Tates said:
The valium has already worn off (I took it monday) and it's only Wednesday night now. I plan to dose the mimosa late Friday. I have heard that LSD and Hostilis is a great combo from certain users.
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Must be certain users who've never done it then. I've tried throwing oral DMT on top of LSD and you don't feel anything.
 
this forum is about harm reduction, you sound like your pushing it way to far, eat something for a start bro.
 
Might as well if your main reason is to puke your guts up anyway.

I don't know about the valium part or how much effect it would have, but if its negligible as i assume it would be then i dont think its as bad as everyone is making out. That and the fact that I dropped acid on wednesday, and if someone offered me some rue + hostilis tomorrow i know what id say.
 
sounds like you already have your heart set on it from your responses, so i dont think any more advice telling you to wait a bit will do any good... but... why not wait a bit?

you will get so much more out of the aya that way.
 
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