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Mephedrone Addiction

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and here's the proper cunt part - do you maybe think that the two of you being "together" has been the worst possible thing for both your drug problems?

Obviously its exacerbated the problem but it didn't create it did it? Mugabe was certainly a candidate for anything like this before Angel and he got together. I've always thought what they display online, aside from the meph addiction, is one of the more positive loving relationships I see or hear about. I think its a bit much for anyone to start insinuating a couple should split based on never meeting them....which is what this is leaning towards.

Apologies if I've misunderstood you.
 
For me personally I need GBL and weed on hand when on a meph session, If I have both on hand as I did last night, I'm able to do a few hundred mg's then cane the gbl and spliffs and go to bed. Otherwise I'll probably be just like some others and cane the hell out of the mephedrone.

So Mugabe, Angel and all other heavy meph users if you don't already I would strongly suggest doing what I do.

I am in a similar position, I have a large ammount of mephedrone, I take 500mg out of a big bag and put into a small baggy and thats my limit. My only problem is the frequency, I take around 500mg up to 3 x a week. Too often I know but I stay under 2 grams a week
 
Obviously its exacerbated the problem but it didn't create it did it? Mugabe was certainly a candidate for anything like this before Angel and he got together. I've always thought what they display online, aside from the meph addiction, is one of the more positive loving relationships I see or hear about. I think its a bit much for anyone to start insinuating a couple should split based on never meeting them....which is what this is leaning towards.

Apologies if I've misunderstood you.

aye fair play man, it maybe came across a bit harsher than i meant it to. i wasn't tryna say they should split up because, as you said, i don't know them at all. i was just thinking that the two of them seem to be spiralling each other downward drug wise. i don't think it's as bad as a couple of heroin addicts where it's very likely to end in disaster. i reckon all this meph addiction needs is just getting a grip & fucking stopping it. it's definitely possible with a little determination.

this might be a bit drastic but have you thought about cutting up your bank cards? so you can't order any more. or even just request a new bank card & scratch off the 3 digit security number on the back, stopping you from buying anything online. it would be fucking annoying but would certainly limit your supply.
 
also, you guys are only 2 out of x-thousand people ordering this stuff

True that. When I ordered my first batch of Meph in April - the order nummber with the vendor I used was 280.

Ordered another RC from the same vendor again last week. This time the order number was 11,099 8o Shocking how much money they must be making, and how much of this stuff is going out.
 
Bah, stupid browser crashed and ate my reply. And not you've replied and toned it down slightly, so I can't retype my original paragraph of swearwords, cunt!
I'll give you the abridged version :)

i don't know how much you bought but it sounds like a lot, so what the FUCK were either of you thinking ordering in bulk when you both consistently go on about your lack of self control? did you actually think for even one second that you'd be able to control it?

Yes, that was idiotic. We did think we could control ourselves, fuck knows why. D-E-N-I-A-L!!

and here's the proper cunt part - do you maybe think that the two of you being "together" has been the worst possible thing for both your drug problems? you seem to do fuck all but encourage each other to get more & more addicted to drugs. obviously i know nothing other than the stuff you post on here but it seems to me like it's nothing but destructive.

I understand your point, but I think you have a few things wrong:

- I'm 99% sure I'd be addicted to meph by now anyway, even if I'd never met mugabe. All the warning signs were there.
- We don't encourage each other.
We talked a lot about how it was becoming a problem and we needed to 'get it under control'. During a binge we don't go any further than making a bit of a face and asking if more really a good idea --- getting annoyed and going on about it wouldn't help at all..... I know that it'd make me an anxious wreck if I knew he was annoyed and disaspproving. Is probably one of the reasons why our posts are so damn upbeat about meph even up until recently.

We don't try very hard to stop the other from taking the first dose of a new binge.... we should do, but of course we both are craving it. So in that respect you're right.

Our relationship being "nothing but destructive" is obviously something I disagree with. I don't think that it's destructive at all....

Shambles said:
I kinda agree with the problems associated with co-dependency and addiction, PC. I used to swear blind that being with the then Mrs Shambles (also an addict) was beneficial cos we could support each other through the rough times of withdrawal.

Mugabe said pretty much the exact same phrasing, about supporting each other through cravings somewhere in an old fucked thread.
I think we'll have to accept that we can't help each other with that. Or rather.... it's slightly worse... when I say "arrrrg, I'm really fiending for some meph" all I want is for him to say "me too" then for us to engage in some nonsense justification convo. Complete bullshit like "we'll go to sleep at a normal time" (this has NEVER HAPPENED) and "it's nearly the weekend, it's Thursday tomorrow!".
I hadn't really thought about this, and think we both need to be careful to not try to reply on each other for any control/restraint.

StoneHappyMonday said:
I've always thought what they display online, aside from the meph addiction, is one of the more positive loving relationships I see or hear about.

:):) Thanks!! That's nice to hear. It's.... it's really, really good. I could talk about how great it is all day. Don't worry, I won't =D

I'm sick of typing and you guys ahve made more posts already!!! I'll reply later maybe :)
 
Our relationship being "nothing but destructive" is obviously something I disagree with. I don't think that it's destructive at all....

aye looking back that wasn't the right thing to say. how the fuck do i know what your relationship is like based on a few posts on a message board :\

Complete bullshit like "we'll go to sleep at a normal time" (this has NEVER HAPPENED) and "it's nearly the weekend, it's Thursday tomorrow!".

ha, i can totally relate to that patter.
 
i couldn't imagine what the comedown would be like after taking it every day for weeks on end, the brain zaps are the worst part for me, makes me worry i'm gonig to have a fit or something. i would love to know how to avoid them. i've started smoking the herb again so i'm hopnig the neuroprotective properties could assist with that.

Mmm... Brain zaps? Not even had a tinge of those bad boys from Meph. Only ever experienced them after MDMA but found that 5htp helped minimise them...
 
For me personally I need GBL and weed on hand when on a meph session, If I have both on hand as I did last night, I'm able to do a few hundred mg's then cane the gbl and spliffs and go to bed. Otherwise I'll probably be just like some others and cane the hell out of the mephedrone.

hah! I know what you mean regarding the GBL! :) Although, I have found that the GBL induced sleep makes me feel worse than not sleeping at all, strangely enough. Best thing I have found is to concentrate on my breathing when going to bed and relax myself into sleep. Have found it surprising easy to drift off after meph - more so than other stims such as speed.
 
Mmm... Brain zaps? Not even had a tinge of those bad boys from Meph. Only ever experienced them after MDMA but found that 5htp helped minimise them...

I only get them after a period of prolonged abuse. By "prolonged" I mean a week or more.

I speculate that it's more to do with length-of-binge than amount consumed. When first had a prolonged meph binge, I was taking small doses. I can't remember exactly how much - I think about 10g over 3 weeks. I don't think I've done 10g in a shorter session, but definitely that sort of ballpark for some of them - no brain zaps then.

sundayraver said:
For me personally I need GBL and weed on hand when on a meph session, If I have both on hand as I did last night, I'm able to do a few hundred mg's then cane the gbl and spliffs and go to bed. Otherwise I'll probably be just like some others and cane the hell out of the mephedrone.

GBL used to work wonders for me -- and is good advice for anyone who has problems with fiending. A recreational-sized dose, an hour or so of monging about, then ready for sleep.
It doesn't work anymore though. I feel GBL-fucked, but the fiending for meph just gets worse and worse. And there's no way I could sleep.
A knockout dose obviously knocks me out, but it's 2 hours of seaty sleep punctuated by vivid dreams, then I'm completely unable to sleep again.

sundayraver said:
this might be a bit drastic but have you thought about cutting up your bank cards? so you can't order any more. or even just request a new bank card & scratch off the 3 digit security number on the back, stopping you from buying anything online. it would be fucking annoying but would certainly limit your supply.

Good idea - thanks for the advice. Wouldn't work for us though -- we can buy it locally from some friends. I say "friends" - they're good guys, but they're not close enough friends (type of people) for us to say "refuse to sell it to us" and have them respect it. And even if they were, they're always fucked, so wouldn't work!

Finding a local dealer/headshop was a really, really bad thing for us. Deleting their numbers won't work either....... one time we were fiending so much we just showed up at their door a 11pm because they didn't answer phone (because they were ASLEEP, arrg).
 
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For people who enjoy stims i can definately see mephedrone being very addictive.

im glad i only bought a small amount to play with otherwise i would have used it till it was all gone.

much luck and love to you guys abd gals who are suffering addiction to this stuff
 
Did anyone ever hear what happened to Baron Von Greenback? Hope he's ok after that epic binge. Haven't seen him post in a while?!
 
"it's nearly the weekend, it's Thursday tomorrow!".

Hahahah, classic comment. :)

Did anyone ever hear what happened to Baron Von Greenback? Hope he's ok after that epic binge. Haven't seen him post in a while?!

I've not heard from the Baron. I PM'd him after he said about how much Meph he'd been doing, but he never got back to me.


Angel & Mugabe:- How are you getting on?
 
Yeah its easy to think like that.. Thursday tomorrow, nearly the weekend.. One of my mates is like that, I'm 99% sure he's alot worse than either Angelsmoke or Mugabe. He's awake all night, nearly every night. An 8 day bender, followed 1 day rest, then another 5 day bender with 0hours sleep. I can only imagine what that must be doing to the body :\ I used top cain it but never more than a weekend. What I also hate is how it seems to make people very dishonest about things and how mych they are using. I respect both of you for being honest and admitting you have a problem. My mate gets angry when people suggest such a thing 8)

I wonder if Baron is ok? His use sounded the worst of allI have heard, the amount he was getting through in 1 weekend was scary, nevermind what he was doing in a month. I'm sorry to say it, but that amount will only end badly.. Really hope your ok Baron if you read this :)
 
What I also hate is how it seems to make people very dishonest about things and how mych they are using. I respect both of you for being honest and admitting you have a problem.

Classic symptom of any addiction sadly :(. mugabe and angel were on a big denial trip and reacted with hostility to any suggestions of addiction/problems for a good while before the penny dropped. it's a very positive thing they have admitted it and i really wish them all the best in stopping. with psychological addiction major lifestyle changes will probably be necessary to stop it sneaking back in.
 
FYI Baron was active on facebook yesterday... so shoot him a PM or get on MSN if you're concerned. I'd rather not have conjecture about anyone here without their permission, you know? :)
 
The Kid said:
Angel & Mugabe:- How are you getting on?

I've had a pretty shit day today. More appropriate for a blog entry though I think, though it's all meph's fault, it's not going to be helpful to anyone.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/blog.php?b=1841

In a nutshell, I overslept (work at 9am, woke up at 1pm). Went apeshit - punching wall, throwing stuff, cutting myself. Just so angry with myself.

I pretty much stuck a straw in the bag and snorted. I'm not sure why ..... certainly there was a classic "I NEED IT NOW" feeling (hence why I didn't even line it up), but also I really wanted to hurt myself -- both the nose pain and the knowledge that I'm causing myself a lot of damage were motivating factors.

That started off the day very badly. I continued to feel bad.... not angry but more and more wound up (by nothing).... and the worse I felt the bigger a dose of meph I'd have. That's because the anxious feeling felt exactly like fiending. It wasn't though - huge doses didn't make it any better, and consciously forcing myself to calm down pretty much fixed it.

I guess when I fiend, I always assume that it's because I need to take more meph to keep some sort of something stable in my brain chemistry. Homoeostasis.
There are lots of other times when I've been fiending really badly, made a bomb, then got distracted and didn't take it for an hour or so.

So there is definitely a psychological element that I can control. Interesting. And bad for me, given that I am expecting the week after I stop to be very, very shit -- and I don't think I can properly remove that expectation.


Mugabe slept all day and isn't on the meph at the mo.
 
angel, i don't want you guys to replace one thing with another... but do you have any valium at hand? i'm no expert, but i'm pretty sure it would help things in the short term. :\

i think the inevitable crash should be dealt with sooner rather than later.
 
parttime crackhead said:
get.....the.....meph....out.....the......house

please?
Next week..... can't crash at work. If you're going to tell me to MAN UP and deal with it.... will also be dealing with weeks of sleep deprivation... which is pretty crap.

angel, i don't want you guys to replace one thing with another... but do you have any valium at hand? i'm no expert, but i'm pretty sure it would help things in the short term. :\

i think the inevitable crash should be dealt with sooner rather than later.

Yeah, we do, and it does seem to help with some stuff. Mugabe has it for anxiety - and it does seem to help with symptoms which fall under that big umbrella.
 
Did you even ring work? Won't you get sacked if you carry on missing work and underperforming when you do turn up?

Take xanax over valium as it's much shorter lasting and wont leave you as groggy the next day
 
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