• Neuroscience & Pharmacology Discussion Welcome Guest
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
    Recent Journal Articles Chemistry Mega-Thread
    FREE Chemistry Databases! Self-Education Guide

  • N&PD Moderators: Skorpio

Dimethocaine

That's my understanding as well. As soon as you say this get you amped, or knocks you out or makes you trip then you've broken the law.
The few online vendors the DEA busted the case was solely based on phone/email conversations discussing what the intended effects of the chemicals were. Again, I am no lawyer, just interested as hell. I may be right or wrong.
In another forum a large group of us were discussing MDPV and how it is an analogue of pyravalone(sp?) and that's a schedule v so it's cool. In the end a few very wise people said the analogue chemical isn't the end all be all, they could easily say MDPV is "substantially similar" to a schedule I or II it's NOT an analogue of.
I agree with that myself.

Added note here- I had a HIGH desire to redose. I blew thru an entire gram in about 13 hours. The more you do over a long period of time the more and more coke like it gets. At the end I was chewing the hell out of my mouth and was kinda horny. I still haven't slept since last night.
I do like it though, kinda fun every now and again.
 
explorer83 said:
I'm not going to get into the finer details of the law, but in general, anything that is sold as an illegal drug or as a replacement for it can get you in trouble even if it doesn't behave similarly or have a related structure.
Click to expand...

yeah (dont quote me on this....) but im pretty sure even if you have something like baking soda and its bagged up into 8ball bags and you're selling it as coke or something, you can still catch a charge. Someone correct me if im wrong...

btw:: Dimethocaine, i think ill stay away from this one, i havent ever really heard a good trip report from it.
 
Mentat23 said:
Am I wrong? I'm no lawyer.
Lastly, the analogue act pretty much seems to apply to ANYTHING you sell on the grounds that it gets you high. What's similar really mean?
By the way notice it says i ii OR iii. So if you just do iii (i.e. take this, it works like coke) than I think they got you.
In my opinion it's best to treat them ALL like the act applies. Better safe than sorry.
Click to expand...

You are wrong. Completely.

The courts have said that it must be I and II, and that iii can't stand on it's own either because then it's just a counterfeit drug act, which is not what it was intended to be.

Read the relevant case law and you'll then have a complete understanding of the law.


Regarding "here, it's like coke" that's not illegal. At least not outside an analogue case. In the US there exist lots of various counterfeit drug laws, which would apply if you claim something to be cocaine.

Regarding MDPV- if you think it's not covered by the analogue act you're an idiot. Yeah, pyrovalerone is C5, so it's not covered as a pv analogue. MDMA is CI, though, and MDPV will be considered an MDMA analogue act.
 
Man, I'm still thinking the wording is so broad. There's a lot of differing opinions all over the place for this stuff.
Honestly, unless you're a lawyer I would treat ANYTHING like the act applies to it and be careful of any mention of intention to consume ESPECIALLY if you are distributing in any way.
Also selling baking soda as coke does fall under a different law, TRUST me on this one.
But selling an RC and stating the EFFECTS are similar to coke would be skating really close to the analogue act, I'm sure of it, even if it's not an analogue of coke.
Again- this is from what I've read on Erowid, Wiki, and other groups. I don't claim to know for sure. You seem very sure though Hamilton so I'm curious if you are a lawyer or something, because this is all new to me and I'd like the best info possible. Everyone seems to have a different opinion on this one. Did the prosecutors in the big online busts have to prove the chemicals were analogues, or did they have to prove the vendors intended the receivers to consume or both?
Also- I don't know much about the specifics of the analogue act, but I'm far from an idiot. No need to be so confrontational, calm down a little. I'm trying to learn here, I've made NO claims that I am certain about these things, far from it. Being confused by that broad ass stupidly worded law does not make me an idiot so don't be mean!
 
I'm curious as to whether dimethocaine produces tinnitus- "a bell ringer" when used IV. The guy from Drugs Forum says "even the rush was quite nice" but that's it really. I could really care less about the rush, I just enjoy that weird effect on sound and haven't been able to reproduce it with anything besides cocaine HCL.

I'm also curious as to the mechanism of this effect and was thinking one of you would be able to explain it to me. I've searched quite a bit and haven't been able to dig up anything useful.
 
ZeXXX Rated said:
I'm curious as to whether dimethocaine produces tinnitus- "a bell ringer" when used IV. The guy from Drugs Forum says "even the rush was quite nice" but that's it really. I could really care less about the rush, I just enjoy that weird effect on sound and haven't been able to reproduce it with anything besides cocaine HCL.

I'm also curious as to the mechanism of this effect and was thinking one of you would be able to explain it to me. I've searched quite a bit and haven't been able to dig up anything useful.
Click to expand...

I've never tried dimethocaine, but I'd be pretty surprised if it didn't have the same sort of auditory effect. I've gotten the same effect from mephedrone before. What exactly do you mean by its mechanism; how the drug works in your brain in general or why the sound distortion happens?
 
Anonabyss said:
I've never tried dimethocaine, but I'd be pretty surprised if it didn't have the same sort of auditory effect. I've gotten the same effect from mephedrone before. What exactly do you mean by its mechanism; how the drug works in your brain in general or why the sound distortion happens?
Click to expand...

Really? How much mephedrone did you use to have that happen? I IVed up to 100 mgs maybe and didn't notice that effect at all, I did have a bit of tolerance and was at the end of my supply so that might have been it.

I am interested in both how it works and why it happens. Is it from dopamine or is it something else? I have some dimethocaine and some more mephedrone on the way in a couple weeks. So we'll see what happens eh?
 
I have been interested in dimethocaine. Although from what I read it is nearly as potent as cocaine but the dose to create euphoria is 10x greater than that of cocaine.
 
Oxycontin160mg said:
I have been interested in dimethocaine. Although from what I read it is nearly as potent as cocaine but the dose to create euphoria is 10x greater than that of cocaine.
Click to expand...

That just seems to be from that one line on the wiki page. It may be several times less potent than coke, but unless you're getting top quality shit it's probably not going to be weaker than the 20-30% pure crap that has circulated around my area.
 
Ask Mobius Dick about his 'holy quaternary'. It involves a cocaine-related DARI with greater affinity for SERT and less for NET than cocaine, a slightly longer duration, and all the rushy euphoria. It's a WIN-something compound.

What makes coke so special?

ebola
 
Is this WIN-something compound available? At what kinda pricings?

What makes coke so special? Well, it is special on its own and you dont want to be too neurotoxic like WIN-something compound or Troparil?
 
^^^^^^^^
That sounds right, but I don't remember clearly. Did a researcher with those initials invent a zillion DARIs, like Dr. JWH did w/ cannabinoids?

Is this WIN-something compound available? At what kinda pricings?
Click to expand...

No (not yet?).

What makes coke so special? Well, it is special on its own
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

Maybe, but what makes it special?

you dont want to be too neurotoxic like WIN-something
Click to expand...

Did you just declare a compound that you haven't ever heard of neurotoxic? LOL, wut?

ebola
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top