Howard Stern, Artie Lange, and Heroin Legalization.

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Nothing too profound or groundbreaking, but it managed to keep my attention. Cool little article, which I agree with 100%. Love Artie Lange and used to love the Howard Stern show.

http://suburra.com/blog/2009/04/13/howard-stern-artie-lange-and-heroin-legalization/



On other shows, cast member Artie Lange’s heroin addiction would have been covered up. On The Howard Stern Show it has been openly discussed. Thanks to this honesty, heroin and opiate addiction myths have been toppled for millions of Howard Stern listeners. Some of these misconceptions are:

1. Heroin Affects Your Functioning – Opiates do not substantially interfere with functioning like alcohol does. They can with extreme usage, but even for hard-core addicts maintenance levels do not necessarily create functional differences. Studies have found that doctors addicted to opiates are just as proficient as their peers. The cast of The Howard Stern Show has not been able to tell when Lange is using. Lange has been extremely tired on some shows, but this was because he had a brutal schedule and was up all night driving to Delaware for his heroin – not from the pharmacological effects of heroin. Moralistic listeners want Lange kicked off the show for his usage, but as Howard Stern has said, “He does a great job … I don’t have a problem with him. He does what he is supposed to do.” (1/5/09)

2. Heroin Users Are Monsters – The large majority of people who try heroin do not go on to become addicts. [On the show it has been revealed Stern, Chris Rock (9/24/08), and David Arquette (4/16/07) have used heroin and never become addicted.] And many people who do become addicted lead relatively normal lives and never resort to criminal behavior. Of course, these responsible and conscientious addicts are invisible to mainstream America because they hide their habits well and do not get caught up in the criminal justice system. It is the out-of-control and dysfunctional users whose asinine behavior gets them in the papers and on COPS. Heroin and opiates do not chemically change your moral compass. Other cast members of The Howard Stern Show have accused heroin of turning Lange into a liar. But as Lange has argued repeatedly, he only lies when honesty about his usage would endanger his job.

3. Legalized Heroin Would Be Dangerous – At the time of this posting, Lange had been using the prescription opiate, Subutex, off and on for four years. Although heroin has the most evil reputation, all opiates work in the same manner. Heroin has the same effect as morphine. It is simply three times as potent in the body. Subutex is 25 times as potent as morphine. Declaring a war on heroin is similar to declaring a war on wine but not beer or liquor. When Lange went on Subutex it felt like, “[he] was flying, completely normal, and high too,” and “within a month, [his] life had turned from complete darkness to amazing light.” On Subutex, Lange was able to do The Howard Stern Show while simultaneously making his movie, Beer League. On Subutex he no longer had to lie about his behavior, he didn’t have to drive to Delaware, and the threat of accidental overdose virtually disappeared.

As a public defender I was always surprised how people did not think drugs should be legalized, but when their loved one was busted for drugs she or he was not a criminal. The same phenomenon occurred on The Howard Stern Show. No one clamored for Lange to be prosecuted. In Lange’s rarified showbiz world it was inconceivable to some of his peers that he could even be arrested. [Show co-host, Robin Quivers, "What's he going to go to jail for?" (1/6/09)] Lange supports legalization of all drugs. (12/1/08)

To learn the fascinating truth behind other myths surrounding drugs and sex read You Will Die: The Burden of Modern Taboos.

Sources:

1. Robert Arthur, You Will Die: The Burden of Modern Taboos (2008).
2. Gary Dell’Abate, The Howard Stern Show, Sirius XM Radio.
3. Artie Lange, Too Fat to Fish (2008), pp. 264-265.
 
Love Artie Lange and used to love the Howard Stern show.


What you don't love Stern anymore?....He's still the greatest voice out there...everyone still has about a year an a half to listen...Funniest radio ever
 
<Of course, these responsible and conscientious addicts are invisible to mainstream America because they hide their habits well and do not get caught up in the criminal justice system. It is the out-of-control and dysfunctional users whose asinine behavior gets them in the papers and on COPS.>

And thats the problem, "normal" people who are addicts have to hide or face total destruction of their life. If everyone who is currently an opiate addict, from gram a day H users down to codeine and tramadol users, was to come out and tell everyone the public would be shocked. We might have acceptance or an even stronger societal taboo, who knows and thats why functional addicts stay hidden.
 
Cool article, good to see some people are out trying to disprove the stereotypes for drug users. When more people realise drugs aren't how they are portrayed by the Government and media more people will get behind legalization.
 
I dont know if this issue can ever be overcome by the US public. Heroin is just so stigmatized here its ridiculous.

Im in college and I can tell you, when I meet someone new that I can tell is into drugs, I can be open about all the drugs I do. I can say, yeah man I was just trippin acid last week, then we picked up some K, the next day we got some nice ass coke, so fresh it rocked us all. Yeah then we were strung out so we just chilled on OCs and xanax for the next day. But if you mention you did HEROIN, or smoked crack, or meth somewhat also..its just like..YOU DID WHATTT!? I dont get it, but ive accepted thats the way it is.

I think one way to take a positive step forward is for the average drug users, probably the MAJORITY of drug users, who have otherwise normal lives, normal jobs, normal girlfriends, family values, and are otherwise law abiding citizens, to come forward and be open about it. Now, the only time you hear about Heroin users is in the tabloids when a celeb goes to rehab, or about drug busts in the inner city, or smuggling operations. Drug addicts should not be treated as criminals, its a disgrace to our country.
 
^agreed.

you just don't mention the "Top 3" to people, even most drug users, cause they just look down upon heroin, crack cocaine, and crystal meth soooo much its ridiculous.

the thing that bothers me the most is people who will snort cocaine all day long but will never do crack cocaine, like its some completely different drug or something? its the same drug, you are just using a different ROA to is more intense with less duration. but it is still the same feeling when you do it.
 
Interesting article. The public has been so brainwashed with propaganda it will take years to reeducate them. The truth about drugs will help society tolerate and then accept an individual's right to his drug of choice. The truth will set us free.
 
the thing that bothers me the most is people who will snort cocaine all day long but will never do crack cocaine, like its some completely different drug or something? its the same drug, you are just using a different ROA to is more intense with less duration. but it is still the same feeling when you do it.


Have you tried both? I only tried rock a couple times (had my arm twisted quite heavily to give it a try lol), but even the second time was not necessary to realize that crack is a completely different beast than powder. Different feeling, and MUCH different fucked up come down... I dunno, I hear what you're saying every now and then, but I've seen crack fuck up lives a hell of a lot faster and to a greater degree than I've seen possible with coke..

What DOES piss me off that I agree with ya on though is the heroin thing. People will blow line after line of oxy, but if you tell them you snorted some heroin they look at you like you're some kind of sick junkie maniac.. I've found oxy to just be a much more dirty feeling, and infinitely more expensive drug.



meh fuck it, drugz r bad :p
 
i love artie too, but i've heard him verbally crucify people who have tried meth, as if his coke addiction was "above" that. same with howard when he goes on one of his "LSD is Satan" rants because he's had a bad trip. it bugs me when people say they're pro-legalization, but they actually mean they're only pro for the ones on their list of favorites. some drugs do a lot more damage in a lot less time, but declaring them illegal clearly doesn't stop people from seeking and using them. most people who are curious about trying coke find it, and i just don't believe that there would be that many more crackheads in the world if both were legal. everyone has their own limits; gasoline is available at every big intersection and yet the only people i've ever met who have huffed it are those who were looking for absolutely anything they could find to get them fucked up. and they found it, braindamage included.
 
Have you tried both? I only tried rock a couple times (had my arm twisted quite heavily to give it a try lol), but even the second time was not necessary to realize that crack is a completely different beast than powder. Different feeling, and MUCH different fucked up come down... I dunno, I hear what you're saying every now and then, but I've seen crack fuck up lives a hell of a lot faster and to a greater degree than I've seen possible with coke..

What DOES piss me off that I agree with ya on though is the heroin thing. People will blow line after line of oxy, but if you tell them you snorted some heroin they look at you like you're some kind of sick junkie maniac.. I've found oxy to just be a much more dirty feeling, and infinitely more expensive drug.



meh fuck it, drugz r bad :p


Yes, i have done both, and yes, crack cocaine is likely to get you addicted quicker, but only because you are doing an ROA that hits you quicker and lasts shorter, not because its some worse drug. When i smoked it, i was like, "whats the big deal?". its not any worse than cocaine hcl IMO.

Its not a different "beast" as you say, and its not a different high(unless it was cut with some other active cut), it just hits you harder and quicker so it feels different. Injected cocaine hcl is wayyyy worse than crack cocaine IMO.

IV cocaine > Smoked crack cocaine > insufflated cocaine IMO.
 
I dunno.. I felt the high to be different for some reason, and the crash felt fucking horrible, certainly waaayyyy worse than powder.. like one smoking session that lasted all of 5 minutes put me into complete hell for hours, I've killed entire Balls of decient shit in a night and the crash didn't even come CLOSE to how bad that felt
 
^I've never really had a crash from crack cocaine, but i have from insufflating powder.

Have you ever injected powder cocaine? If you have, then you would know its a level above crack.
 
*shudder* luckily no, but I don't doubt ya for a second. I'm not good with needles.. at all haha, I didn't like em before, but ever since I had a botched biopsy, I have a full blown panic attack every time I need to give a blood sample.
I did see this fucked up docu on hbo or something where they interviewed this crack whore, and she shot rock while being interviewed, like injected little bits in different places all around her body, it was pretty disturbing.. the whole time she was talking about how many guys shes gotta fuck a day to keep herself high and how she left her husband and kids and shit... I wonder if theres any difference between shooting rock or powder?

That's weird about the crash differences though, different people different results I guess. ugh, I cringe just thinking about my experience with it
 
^i think you have to add an acid to make crack shootable kinda like you do with the base form of heroin, but don't quote me on this.

And about that crack whore, it doesn't make any sense why she would inject little bits all over her body. IMing cocaine is most likely super dangerous and is just asking for an abscess. She probably was just having trouble getting into a vein to inject it.
 
yeah she talked about the acid thing, I think she used some vinegar *gross*

And yeah... she was fuckin tweaked out crazy, you could see her bleeding from a lot of the spots, I think that means she was hitting veins... god knows wtf was going through her head. =\
 
^i imagine it was something like "i'm a crack cocaine shooter and i really really wanna get HIGH!!!"

by any chance are you talking about that documentary called "Dope Sick Love"?
i remember this old white chick who was trying to shoot crack and her boyfriend used the needle and then gave it to her and the needle was super dull and she was trying to hit a vein with this dull dull needle and she was getting sooo frustrated because it wouldn't work, and then she starts crying and freaking out, etc...

would that be it?
 
nah doesn't look like the one. This one I saw was like a solid 45 minute non stop interview in this ladies motel room. There might have been a break at the one point because she was constantly getting calls for 'business' and might have seen a guy.. can't remember. Don't think that's the one though
 
Yeah, there are tons of functional addicts, only fucked up by the fact that heroin is illegal. My friend has been addicted for something like 7 years and never did anything criminal to get her shit. She OD'd and got caught by the cops and is now on probation so can't get a job. What, is she supposed to steal now or sell her body. She does cleaning jobs and stuff now but it's so unfair.

When I was addicted I never stole or got into prostitution. Seriously, a few bad cases and they ma us all suffer like animals.
 
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