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The Big & Dandy 4-MeO-PCP Thread

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phsycho said:
to not have childs. is that kinda snobby?
now to something completely different: 4-meo-pcp feels like a time extended ketamine trip! tho don't know pcp :(
it's like right before kholing for over 12 hours. or like kholing with much more senses. even more sense over the own body. the mind is free and agile like on k. now, 19 hours after the first IV shot, 15 hours after the last IV shot, it comes to an end slowly. but even now, i'm able to arrange me in the "mind-environment" as solid as i want it.
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how much did you IV?
 
Great beard of Zeus thats a shit ton of this stuff.

Considering like 200mg oral provides good effects, what planet did that send you to then?
 
i'm experienced with k-holes so it was very enjoyable dissociative trip for a trained psychedelics user, cig. smoker (with a a lot of unaware backache problems) and as living being on a planed full of pollution it was good for my psychedelic trained brain.
also there is the anti depressant component, which ketamine another dissociative drug is known for, under which influences i still am.
 
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does anyone know a good dose to try IV? i usually do about 200-300 of k IV or 250-350 IM (i almost always eye k out since i generally have a lot of pure hcl to screw around with). i have done 250mgk and 10mg 2ce IV simultaneously and even higher doses of k IV while on 10 hits of acid, 250mg ivk then smoked 100+mg nn dmt, etc... i am very experienced with dissasociatives basically lol. any ideas for dosing?
 
You cannot discuss prices of things on Bluelight dude. Nor can you talk about sources. Get the fuck out of here and read the rules.
 
^ Prices are allowed in some areas of BL (including here in PD as far as I know... to a point anyway) so there's room for confusion there. Vendor discussion is definitely not allowed anywhere on BL though.

PS: To clarify on the pricing, I believe it's allowed within reason but those reasons don't include asking what you should be paying from vendors, who sells cheapest, bulk pricing and the like. There probably aren't many cases where price has anything to do with the discussion which is the reason there aren't many around PD (although there are still a fair few dotted about) but other forums may be different - EADD allows pricing except for bulk, for example. The edited post would not be permissable in any area of BL, I suspect which is why it's now an edited post :)
 
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phsycho said:
ok .. your right. it's not in hole or only a tiny bit and only if you really let it flow (as long as your experienced with k, pcp holes)
it's more like right before or after the complete hole.
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A PCP hole? Might be pleasant enough, but IME get enough of it in my body to reach that stage & I'm not going to remember a bloody thing (the amnesia from PCP seems much greater than from ketamine with higher doses)
 
Just felt like tacking on more information.

Took my second attempt. 230mg orally dosed. Effects were strong early and rose in an hour. Within 90 minutes, I felt them topping off and then falling back down.

For the second time though I've had some interesting flashback type things, it feels like I'm flying by a location I know. Although, its in my peripheral vision. Its like Im flying forward on a body of water, with the city or location on the side. Its quite interesting.

But, as was last time, my DXM tolerance showed up. It was over and done mentally in 4 hours. However a shaky physical body load lingered for the next hour or two. I tried to pop a couple xanax for sleep but the bitter taste caused me to throw up.

After that however, my body felt better, and I brushed the teeth, took a couple more xanax, about 1.5mg, and fell asleep.

I am done with the 4-meo-pcp as I can see I have simply a great wall of china sized dissociative tolerance.
 
Nah I doubt it Coolio...

Honestly its a tolerance issue. Everybody reports a long ass trip and yet I'm baseline in 4-5 hours. More just is going to probably add to the confusion and the tolerance over the long run.

I can say I've tried it anyway. Just isnt working for me as my situation is rather unique.
 
Really would like to get some more of this, my last trip I could sense the proximity of the p-hole but didn't ever quite get there (instead I was just incredibly dissociated and generally fucked up for hours and hours). I seem to have very high sensitivity to dissociatives, and no tolerance (400mg or so of DXM is enough to get me to 3rd plateau, or at least between 2 and 3) and approx. 130mg of this stuff taken rectally absolutely annihilated me. It was nearly impossible to communicate or move for several hours, both were extremely difficult and mostly futile. I would certainly say this is the most outright strange drug experience of all the drugs I've done (~30) and one of the most intense.

Last time I did it, after the plateau had subsided and I was an hour or two into the EXTREMELY gradual come-down, I took a relatively strong hit of DMT which didn't abort the experience but brought the subjective intensity down considerably after being interrupted.

I am curious about the difference in potency between oral and rectal administration if anyone has any data on the subject (rough dose equivalencies etc).
 
Anyone who thinks they have a tolerance issue, that 4-MeO-PCP doesn't work, they were unimpressed with it or think they have some unique reaction to it:

TRY 200MG+ OF IT RECTALLY!!

People are saying that this compound is shit and that's because they're trying it orally. Have you tried Ketamine orally? Notice how it's NOTHING like a lesser dose of Ketamine insufflated? Ever tried Ketamine rectally? Notice how it's NOTHING like a lesser dose of Ketamine insufflated?

*** DISSOCIATIVES ARE NOT THE SAME. THEY VARY DRASTICALLY BY TYPE & METHOD OF INGESTION ***
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Anyone who has tried 4-MeO-PCP orally, bite your lip and just PLUG IT. It will blow you away. It's like a longer, more "tactile" K-Hole. Don't write this stuff off because you haven't tried it by it's most bioavailable route. No, I don't have the data/source for this, ATM - but it's a fact). Do a bit of searching and you will find that out.

Enjoy it! Unless you have a particular enzyme deficiency then ALL THOSE WHO SAY THEY GET NOTHING FROM THIS STUFF - TRY SHOVING IT UP YOUR ASS! :p

Seriously, though. It's an incredibly compound if and when you use it correctly. It only takes 2ml of lukewarm water to dissolve ~400mg in.

I would personally recommend 300mg plugged if you want a really nice, physically euphoric (body rushes, orgasmic feelings etc..) and mentally euphoric P-Hole. But to those less experienced you could get away with 200-250mg.
 
Copypasta from the 3-Me0-PCP thread for those who don't poke their heads in there - be careful, fellas :)

Shambles said:
... the mention of toxic precursors got me wondering if that may also be a concern with 4-MeO-PCP as that seems to be far more widely available to "the masses". We all know from recent tragic events that RC vendors can't truly be trusted for their claims of quality, purity (or even identity :|) of their products so would PCC be a likely problem with 4-MeO-PCP?
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hugo24 said:
Yes it would also be a problem with 4-MeO-PCP,a down side is that this one is dosed by a magntitude higher.Always wondered why this is so,given Rhodiums claim of being 70% of PCP's potency.Altough the findings here are more in line with the (albeit sparse) in-vitro/in-vivo numbers.
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To PhreakEDIT...

I agree with your thoughts to try other ROA's...

But when the standard user reports a 12 hour duration via oral consumption, and one uses the same dosage and gets just 4 hours to baseline, its obviously cross tolerance.

And as with many dissociatives, some people just DONT get along with them. DXM is a classic example.

Im happy you enjoy it, I wish I could.
 
How long does DXM last for you? I'm generally tripping for 8-12 hours on that stuff, and unable to drive for a day.
 
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