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GBL Megathread: 3ml and Wobbling

I did not mean mixed together in the same cup. Took a shot of 2mL mixed with about 20-30mL 7up...then a cup of coffee and enjoyed the effects :D
 
a word of caution folks,
treat it with respect,dont get wasted and think you are indestructable,

two of my mates died last year after having a couple of beers n getting daft then doing some g,
left pub by all acounts not drunk at all ,were found dead next day ,still in their seats,

it has a major effect on everyone around you ,family friends etc,

just be careful eh,
 
chrisdahl said:
Again, you're serious?
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I can't see why it a hard concept to understand.

While the majority are oblivious to the majority or RCs and other legal alternatives, as soon as the media plaster this info across the tabloids....they then become mainstream.

Look at the way that Mephedrone has boomed in popularity. The media is to blame, and the subsequent ban is inevitable.

The best advertising in the world for RCs (and the online vendors) has been provided free of charge. And the nature of the game means that no information is provided with the online sale of 'plant feeder' and 'alloy wheel cleaner'.
 
chrisdahl said:
You're serious?
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I don't associate with a clubbing crowd and most people I know pay little if any attention to national news, maybe watching it twice a week and not getting a paper that often.
As far as they are concerned alcohol is ok, but for something to be good it has to be illegal. Thats if they consider taking drugs at all.
In the past I went for long periods of time without taking much notice of national news and I didn't use the internet much till 2002. I know plenty of people who either have no interest in the internet or if they have it would not consider that you could buy drugs online or that the main use for the internet is as a research tool.
Obviously making it known from various media campaigns will have led to more being sold, but I would like to know by how much. As I said, not that I'm likely to find out.
The internet is not an all encompassing thing for many, many people. If it was and everyone were interested in trying new drugs then half the country would have tested out GBL by now. Which is most definetly not the case.

Maybe you are a teenager who did buy some because of a media campaign and then all your peers tried it out.
I'm 33 and people I have anything to do with are generally aged between 25 - 60.
 
I agree with what you are saying BB, I know people who won't even think about taking something that they bought online because 'if it's legal, it must be crap'
 
Most people who i HAVE SHOWED IT TOO who have not tried it, are put off by the fact it's a alloy cleaner or marketed as such, GHB was quite popular in the 1990's as it was fairly benign in terms of taste and did not melt things on contact, if I offer GBL to people who are not sure of it it is not so much it doesn't work or its legal moreso why would you want to drink a industrial cleaner. :\
 
I expect that the media condemning it has probably caused it to become lots more popular.

I'd like to make the distinction between legal and unscheduled. Meph, GBL, etc etc.... all my favourite legal drugs are what I'd call unscheduled. *Legal* to me is caffeine, alcohol, etc. I wouldn't say that people who think "if it's legal it must be shit" are necessarily ignorant or stupid. They've just learned by experience. The first class A I had was MDMA. That convinced me for a long time that illegal == awesome
 
Been sort of binging the last few days on GBL.

Now I'm off it but have tried drinking and it doesn't really work! I drank about 3/4 bottle of vodka last night and it made me puke, which I pretty much never do. I was never really drunk like normal however... :( I think I'm going to call it quits for a little while.
 
I can still get drunk after coming off it...in fact last year a couple of times before I perfected my withdrawal method I got obscenely drunk which I wouldn't notice till I tried to do anything involving coordination:|
I've not had alcohol for 17 days and before that it was once a week for a short while, before which I had been a month sober.
Alcohol is an annoying drug. For me it only seems to be euphoric if I hardly ever have it or have it constantly, there doesn't seem to be a middle ground...I used to get drunk every other day just because it was the only drug I could get and it was never as good as in the 90's when I had a circle of semi-alky friends. I think for me I should just leave it behind which is what I should have done in 2001.
I've been trying to work out a substance schedule for some time soon, eg drink once a fortnight, GBL 1 week on 3 - 7 weeks off, stoned once or twice a week and try to have 2 days a week substance free.
I've been reliant on these things now for so long, and its time I dug myself out albeit slowly.....used to have over the top ideas of being sober for ever, except that would fail after a week:|
Need to change my mindset more,eg not to think that everything good starts from substances...but that means at least in part overcoming the severe depression that I've had since way before I even got drunk.
 
chrisdahl said:
Can you share this method, either in this thread or by pm?
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Not the full version as it involves drugs that are class A and potentially very addictive and hard to come off.
Anyway its not perfected yet.
I would say that a place to start would be setting limits for a binge. I have now set mine at 7 days as it only gets worse after that, also it gets boring as the high diminishes and it just becomes an annoying routine:|
Promethezine is essential. This can be got over the counter at boots for £5.49 or less for 56. Ask the chemist for Phenergan, even write it down for them. It will be in the stack of prescription meds not behind the counter, but you don't need a prescription.
2 of them an hour after last dose helps to reduce the dopamine rebound. Also for sleep. Everytime they are taken the amount of dopamine in you will be reduced. But taking more than 4 is not advisable as it can lead to horrible depression.

Benzos for me are also essential, but you have to get them first. Mine are on prescription. I used to think that the first day I would have to blitz myself with lorazepam or temazepam, but have found that I don't need anything like as much as first thought.
Codiene, mine is on prescription, but this is also available in Boots OTC, although unlike promethezine you will most likely have to concoct a story to get codiene linctus. Or some people try cold water extraction of co-codamol to get rid of paracetemol....but that is quite iffy, some people fuck it up and get fucked livers anyway.
Propranolol is for me now essential, only used it the last few times and it makes it WAY easier. You may be able to get this prescribed, far more likely than benzos. 40mg every 4 hours the first day work wonders.

Avoid alcohol like the plague. It took me ages to realise that all you end up with the next day is a dopamine rebound and awful hangover combined which means up to triple the anxiety. I got locked into a drink cycle earlier this year which started very high and took 7 days to reduce. Thats what lead to me not drinking for 2 weeks, then 1 month, and now I'm just avoiding it, although not avoiding all substances though.

Some people swear by phenibut, but I avoid it as some swap GBL for that and coming off it is much worse, especially since it takes 3 days for the full severity of withdrawal to attack. I can't deal with the concept of stopping a drug and then waiting 3 days for it to get worse and worse. At least GBL withdrawal reached maximum pain within 12 - 18 hours and after that with the right withdrawal programme it becomes much easier. A few weeks ago I did 11 days on and was expecting it to take up to 14 without to get better, but I was able to go to an interview 4 days after and not on any medication.
 
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brokenbrain said:
Not the full version as it involves drugs that are class A and potentially very addictive and hard to come off.
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Cos nobody here ever discusses Class A drug use, eh? ;)

Glad you've got your withdrawal method sorted though. I've drastically cut down myself recently but the only real withdrawal effects I've noticed are after 24 hours or so being generally sniffly, watery eyed and so forth. I'm obviously hoping it doesn't get any worse :|

Incidentally, my drastic reduction in intake seemed to be connected to a mini (well, fairly maxi actually) MDPV binge. I got through a shitton of peevee but had all but no interest in GBL, alcohol or anything much else at the time. Did my liver the world of good cos my combined GBL and alcohol intake was getting ridiculous and me poor ol' liver was feeling very swollen and sore - greatly improved now. The peevee seemed to really clean me out - a kinda chemical-fuelled detox. This was a very mellow batch of peevee though, definitely doesn't work with the white stuff.
 
Shambles said:
Incidentally, my drastic reduction in intake seemed to be connected to a mini (well, fairly maxi actually) MDPV binge. I got through a shitton of peevee but had all but no interest in GBL, alcohol or anything much else at the time. .
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Likewise for myself with meph or m1, i lose all interest in any kind of fluids and even if i make a geeby drink i can never finish it off
 
Fucks sake do you want me to advise swapping GBL with methadone, heroin, opium, pod tea etc? Just because I do it doesn't mean anyone else should. I'm trying to do harm reduction here. Saying to someone who has never had methadone or opium pods to start taking them without knowing their own limits is non-harm reduction in full effect.
Potential death production:|
 
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