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GBL Megathread: 3ml and Wobbling
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Hi guys,
I got some more GBL a couple of months ago (500ml bottle shared between a few friends) after 1 year+ of abstinence after my previous problems with addiction to it. I used it fairly sensibly at first, had a month of using it only now and again. Took a fortnight break from it and had no problems at all. Had a couple more nights on it then had some horrendous personal news which got me down as hell and I started to cane it to get over it since I figured that I had self-control over it. Bad move.
So I've been taking it heavily for two and a bit weeks and I've realized that I'm slipping into the same trap I did before with it. I had got upto requiring 10-15ml/day to feel decent and sleep for 8 hours a day (with horrible GBL rebound insomnia).
I've decided to go for a small taper over the past 3 days, to 8ml, then 6ml and today 2ml at midday as I had some important stuff to do in the day but I have nothing to do this weekend. I'm feeling ok with a couple of pints of beer in me but I really do not want to take any more GBL at all.
The only problem is the sleep -- I have a lot of olanzapine (5mg), trazodone (150mg) and quetiapine (25mg) on me but it doesn't really work and instead just leaves me very groggy and I've had to cave in to the GBL in the end. I will be able to get temazepam or diazepam on Monday if required.
Any suggestions for the sleep? No joke that second time round withdrawals are bad. It took me a lot longer to get anywhere near as bad the first time round. Looks like GBL is not the drug for me at all!
I got some more GBL a couple of months ago (500ml bottle shared between a few friends) after 1 year+ of abstinence after my previous problems with addiction to it. I used it fairly sensibly at first, had a month of using it only now and again. Took a fortnight break from it and had no problems at all. Had a couple more nights on it then had some horrendous personal news which got me down as hell and I started to cane it to get over it since I figured that I had self-control over it. Bad move.
So I've been taking it heavily for two and a bit weeks and I've realized that I'm slipping into the same trap I did before with it. I had got upto requiring 10-15ml/day to feel decent and sleep for 8 hours a day (with horrible GBL rebound insomnia).
I've decided to go for a small taper over the past 3 days, to 8ml, then 6ml and today 2ml at midday as I had some important stuff to do in the day but I have nothing to do this weekend. I'm feeling ok with a couple of pints of beer in me but I really do not want to take any more GBL at all.
The only problem is the sleep -- I have a lot of olanzapine (5mg), trazodone (150mg) and quetiapine (25mg) on me but it doesn't really work and instead just leaves me very groggy and I've had to cave in to the GBL in the end. I will be able to get temazepam or diazepam on Monday if required.
Any suggestions for the sleep? No joke that second time round withdrawals are bad. It took me a lot longer to get anywhere near as bad the first time round. Looks like GBL is not the drug for me at all!
angelsmoke
Bluelighter
Does anyone else get really nasty bruises when GBLd? I get a bit clumsy and bump into stuff - nothing hardcore (certainly never hurt the next day) and get HUGE BRUISES. They go away normally.... but they're really quite spectacular for a week or so.
I figured it was probably normal but actually didn't find any results searching - mostly people just upset about falling over when g'd, heh.
I figured it was probably normal but actually didn't find any results searching - mostly people just upset about falling over when g'd, heh.
Haha yeah I feel paranoid on GBL 'cause when I'm walking about my house people would see me just leaning into the walls and doorways and stumbling over things.
Dandandan, how much were you taking at the most per day, and for how long? I've been caning it more than usual lately and had insane insomnia last night, awake til 5am
Dandandan, how much were you taking at the most per day, and for how long? I've been caning it more than usual lately and had insane insomnia last night, awake til 5am
10-15ml a day for 2 weeks and probably 5-10ml/day or so for a week before that. I had about 7 pints last night over 12 hours or so and eventually got 3-4 hours of sleep without reaching for the GBL.
Feeling a lot better today, gonna stock up on a few more beers just in case I need them. Think I'm going to be fine, but the anxiety/depression and general physical nastiness was far worse than I expected for 'only' 3 weeks of abuse.
Feeling a lot better today, gonna stock up on a few more beers just in case I need them. Think I'm going to be fine, but the anxiety/depression and general physical nastiness was far worse than I expected for 'only' 3 weeks of abuse.
Wahslab
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I get bruises, not because I bruise easier while on it, just because I am more stumbly!
Full Effect
Bluelighter
yeasss 3ml and loving the sunshine..
gonna have to buy a load soon before the bastards ban it.
gonna have to buy a load soon before the bastards ban it.I'm liking your post Full Effect!
I have found a new love in GBL. It has completely stopped me drinking alcohol - NO MORE HANGOVERS! And is miles cheaper. Tend to take it after work about 1.5ml and on a weekend if I'm going out as a replacement for the ale. Gutted that I only bothered to try it recently and the ban is surely nigh! Ah well live and learn eh!!
I have found a new love in GBL. It has completely stopped me drinking alcohol - NO MORE HANGOVERS! And is miles cheaper. Tend to take it after work about 1.5ml and on a weekend if I'm going out as a replacement for the ale. Gutted that I only bothered to try it recently and the ban is surely nigh! Ah well live and learn eh!!
party_animal01
Bluelighter
They were talking about the ban this morning on the BBC. Banned at the end of the year they said
brokenbrain
Bluelighter
Stating the obvious
I personally would like to see some research done into how GBL has increased in sales exponentially to its media coverage over the years.
Not that it will ever be done, and it would have to be backdated and people would have to remember when they first heard about it and when they first bought it, but it is something I have been thinking about for ages.
Personally my encounters with GHB-alikes started in 1999 with an article in a magazine about "liquid ecstacy" and how a new legal drug was being sold in clubs for £5 a cap. And then it went into how people were mixing it with alcohol and passing out. It was mentioned in various places in magazines that year and then no more said.
In 2001 there was a short documentary on channel 4 concerning how it was legal to posess, but illegal to sell. The undercover journalist went into a sex shop and procurred some straight away.
Following that I went into a sex shop and was denied
, so gave up.
Read about GHB kits via erowid about 6 months later, but I was back at my parents and no way was I going to order something like that in a house with a control freak father who searched my possessions even though I was 25
Had some GHB given to me in April 2005 and tested it out (only had a small amount) and thought that it was ok but now it was no longer legal to sell kits online so therefore I would never have any again.
Cut to October 2005 and every paper in England had an article about GBL, the club drug that was basically GHB but was legally available online as an alloy cleaner etc. Well I was online next day and the day after I had my first 125ml.
Conclusion: I would never have heard about GBL and its availability without the national media. Since then there was a call for it to be banned at the end of 2007, more talk of banning in June 2008 and this year, first the girl dies, then later her mother comes back to warn the world of the dangers some more, and this last week the Government is talking about banning it again.
If I was in the government and was an anti-drug type I would want things like this kept under wraps as soon as they were brought to light in order to prevent many people knowing.
If GBL had silently been made illegal to possess without any fuss in 2006 it would have been a successful coup.
Right now after multiple mentionings in the media so many people know about it that its going to be selling like "hot cakes"....and it wouldn't be at all surprising if a whole host of incidents occur before January 1st.
Anyway Mr Policeman I will now be moving to mainland Europe
I personally would like to see some research done into how GBL has increased in sales exponentially to its media coverage over the years.
Not that it will ever be done, and it would have to be backdated and people would have to remember when they first heard about it and when they first bought it, but it is something I have been thinking about for ages.
Personally my encounters with GHB-alikes started in 1999 with an article in a magazine about "liquid ecstacy" and how a new legal drug was being sold in clubs for £5 a cap. And then it went into how people were mixing it with alcohol and passing out. It was mentioned in various places in magazines that year and then no more said.
In 2001 there was a short documentary on channel 4 concerning how it was legal to posess, but illegal to sell. The undercover journalist went into a sex shop and procurred some straight away.
Following that I went into a sex shop and was denied
, so gave up.Read about GHB kits via erowid about 6 months later, but I was back at my parents and no way was I going to order something like that in a house with a control freak father who searched my possessions even though I was 25
Had some GHB given to me in April 2005 and tested it out (only had a small amount) and thought that it was ok but now it was no longer legal to sell kits online so therefore I would never have any again.
Cut to October 2005 and every paper in England had an article about GBL, the club drug that was basically GHB but was legally available online as an alloy cleaner etc. Well I was online next day and the day after I had my first 125ml.
Conclusion: I would never have heard about GBL and its availability without the national media. Since then there was a call for it to be banned at the end of 2007, more talk of banning in June 2008 and this year, first the girl dies, then later her mother comes back to warn the world of the dangers some more, and this last week the Government is talking about banning it again.
If I was in the government and was an anti-drug type I would want things like this kept under wraps as soon as they were brought to light in order to prevent many people knowing.
If GBL had silently been made illegal to possess without any fuss in 2006 it would have been a successful coup.
Right now after multiple mentionings in the media so many people know about it that its going to be selling like "hot cakes"....and it wouldn't be at all surprising if a whole host of incidents occur before January 1st.
Anyway Mr Policeman I will now be moving to mainland Europe
party_animal01
Bluelighter
So swim tried it for the 1st time today. Started easy.... .63mL (1/8th teaspoon), another .63mL 45 min later, then another .63mL an hour later, and another .63 mL 20 min later.
This stuff is only making swim mildly tired. A large roast chicken lunch was had after the 1st teaspoon so perhaps that has slowed the effects but so far... ?? Might let it wear off then try 2mL at once tonight.
This stuff is only making swim mildly tired. A large roast chicken lunch was had after the 1st teaspoon so perhaps that has slowed the effects but so far... ?? Might let it wear off then try 2mL at once tonight.
brokenbrain
Bluelighter
Are you for real?
Is anything you just wrote real?
Can you start again without the SWIMMING in as this is not drugs forum![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
SO assuming you are for real, then why are you starting off at sub-1ml doses or dosing every 45 mins or less? Since you already have a few posts I will assume you have been reading here a bit, so where is your reasoning for this dosing?
1. First time dosing you should have waited 4 hours to see what happened.
2. Next day you could have considered upping the dose.
3. Take once a day max going up gradually until you find its too much,eg you start falling asleep.
4. Attempt to find a medium range dose that doesn't cause you to fall asleep.
Ideal doses for those into GBL are usually between 1.2ml and 2.5ml. It may take time to find an ideal dose.
Or it may not be for you.
Ok I can see the concept of starting low, but your doses should be spaced out at LEAST an hour apart.
Is anything you just wrote real?
Can you start again without the SWIMMING in as this is not drugs forum
SO assuming you are for real, then why are you starting off at sub-1ml doses or dosing every 45 mins or less? Since you already have a few posts I will assume you have been reading here a bit, so where is your reasoning for this dosing?
1. First time dosing you should have waited 4 hours to see what happened.
2. Next day you could have considered upping the dose.
3. Take once a day max going up gradually until you find its too much,eg you start falling asleep.
4. Attempt to find a medium range dose that doesn't cause you to fall asleep.
Ideal doses for those into GBL are usually between 1.2ml and 2.5ml. It may take time to find an ideal dose.
Or it may not be for you.
Ok I can see the concept of starting low, but your doses should be spaced out at LEAST an hour apart.
party_animal01
Bluelighter
lol sorry.
I did read a bit and from what I understood gbl onset was pretty quick. Truth is I had a bit of studying I wanted to have done (university related) so didn't want to incapacitate myself, and from what I've read it seems it's very easy to do that. But it seems this tact has just ended up in me not receiving a proper recreational dosage.
Anyway I got my studying done and am feeling better now as the doses seemed to have accumulated, and am now at a laundromat with some time to kill....so I'm just hangin out here enjoying myself.
I did read a bit and from what I understood gbl onset was pretty quick. Truth is I had a bit of studying I wanted to have done (university related) so didn't want to incapacitate myself, and from what I've read it seems it's very easy to do that. But it seems this tact has just ended up in me not receiving a proper recreational dosage.
Anyway I got my studying done and am feeling better now as the doses seemed to have accumulated, and am now at a laundromat with some time to kill....so I'm just hangin out here enjoying myself.
brokenbrain
Bluelighter
SWIM says that next time you shouldn't take it when you have things planned.
Personally I find 1ml every hour to work effectively for social anxiety. 2ml every 2 hours at home alone on a weekend.
Best thing it is for is comedowns. Thats why I still have some around. And hangovers.
Personally I find 1ml every hour to work effectively for social anxiety. 2ml every 2 hours at home alone on a weekend.
Best thing it is for is comedowns. Thats why I still have some around. And hangovers.
chrisdahl
Bluelighter
I don' think research is needed, just look at posts/threads on here, u75 df and between your mates and possibly yourself to see how its popularity has rocketed over the last few years.
brokenbrain
Bluelighter
1. No one I know in the real world has ever heard of it or taken it. They don't take legal highs as they think that nothing will happen
2. The reason for me thinking about the research, which I know is unlikely to happen unless I set up a website to do so...is that it would show a rough guide as to how much more it has become used with increased media coverage and how this has made it into a more dangerous proposition as idiots end up drinking unknown quantities at childrens parties. It just seems to me an interesting study.One that could have possible future use in drug administration programmes.
I don't know if its popularity has rocketed that much or not. Most likely it has, but by how much and has it really ended up not with loads more taking it, but stupider people taking it?
First they banned the old poppers formula and now gbl To top it all off, my old supplier has merged their websites and only sell to businesses now. It sucks because they were really reliable. So now I feel dubious about trying another gbl supplier.
As for the new and improved poppers 8) I ordered some from a european website, in the belief that they were the original brand. Imagine how happy I was when I realised they were the Isopropyl Nitrite brand There’s nothing I enjoy more than getting a rash under my nose and a throbbing headache at night.
To top it all off, my old supplier has merged their websites and only sell to businesses now. It sucks because they were really reliable. So now I feel dubious about trying another gbl supplier. As for the new and improved poppers 8) I ordered some from a european website, in the belief that they were the original brand. Imagine how happy I was when I realised they were the Isopropyl Nitrite brand
There’s nothing I enjoy more than getting a rash under my nose and a throbbing headache at night.party_animal01
Bluelighter
So I had a workout last night and a light dinner, felt 100% sober after that and tried 2.5mL a few hours later at 10pm.
15 min later I was feeling very good and quite wobbly and then next thing I know 1.5 hrs later I woke up on my bed. Guess that was a bit too much. You were right that it can take a few times to narrow down the right dose. I'm guessing 1.5-2mL is right for me. We shall see.
15 min later I was feeling very good and quite wobbly and then next thing I know 1.5 hrs later I woke up on my bed. Guess that was a bit too much. You were right that it can take a few times to narrow down the right dose. I'm guessing 1.5-2mL is right for me. We shall see.