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methylone/5-meo-mipt... Ecstacy like?

Anabolic Monkey

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Since methylone seems to give a somewhat MDMA high and 5-meo-mipt is considered the tryptamines ecstasy (never tried it), would these two be good in combination? I haven't seen any threads about this. Maybe a combination of 150-200mg/6-10mg methylone/5-meo-mipt? From what ive read about 5-meo-mipt, this combo would seem to be the closest mdma feeling rc combo.
 
That's too much as it's a full dose of each (halve the doses if doing for the combo). you're not going to get an MDMA effect by combining the two as MDMA is pretty much unique IME. If that;s what you're trying to get close to the MDMA effect, my feelings are just stick with the methylone
 
You may, for safety, even try going below half of those doses. Both of those compounds in local lab mammals have produced pressure on the heart (beats faster, works harder kind of thing). And I know that mathylone has been used to potentiate other substances with success, so taking methylone before 5-MeO-MiPT may actually make 6mg come on like you took 12mg.

Always be extremely careful.
 
3-4mg of 5-MeO-MiPT were taken after approx. 200g m1 had been taken an hour before. Whew, that turned rather trippy, believe you me!
 
^ximot do you have a trip report for that combo? ive tried them individually and wouldnt consider combining.
 
Methylone is very similar to ecstasy; you might as well just do that if you're only going for the MDMA like high. But if you want the feeling tryptamines bring into the equation, go ahead, but I'd take fastandfabulous' advice about halving the doses to help them synergize (and not overpower the MDMA feeling with more 'tripping' than 'high').
 
I don't know if you've seen this article, but it's a case report on an OD of methylone and 5-meo-mipt.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=16876302

The subject had taken nearly 80 mg of 5-meo-mipt (over 10 times a "typical" dose) in his methylone, which was a mixture unknown to him, which probably was the cause of the serious effects.

If you combine the two, just be sure you're not taking too much of either :)
 
Adverse effects

I once had a very bad experience with 5-MeO-MIPT and Methylone: I took 12mg of 5-MeO-MIPT (around my usual dose) with 300mg of Methylone (a high dose for me but I had some tolerance). Two hours post-ingestion I felt very stoned and kept zoning out. At this point I decided I didn't feel the normal effects of either substance (I felt quite relaxed from the Methylone, but I couldn't feel the 5-MeO-MIPT at all) so I re-dosed with 225mg of Methylone (remember, I had pretty high tolerance from a methylone dose/re-dose experience the day before) and another 12mg of 5-MeO-MIPT. 20 minutes later (!) I felt extremely stoned, almost as if I were nodding from opiates. A short time later the "zoning out" or dissociating sensation became too overwhelming. What had been a gentle zoning out or dissociation feeling gave way to the sense that I was going to lose consciousness. I told myself that I was in no real danger and I took 800mg of gabapentin (Neurontin) to try to calm the rising panic.

Over the next four hours (beginning at +3 hours first dose and +1 hour re-dose) I experienced tremendous pain in my sides, in my flanks to be exact (approximately near the location of my kidneys). At first I thought this was just severe muscle tension, but it quickly progressed to sharp piercing pains that felt far different from muscle pain. Then I began vomiting repeatedly. It would start as a slowly rising wave of nausea and general feeling of malaise and quickly progress to overwhelming sensations of heat, parethesia, and fainting sensations that, once I vomited, suddenly abated. Eventually I stopped vomiting stomach contents and dry heaved, incredibly painful dry heaves, but they made all of the other horrible sensations go away for a little bit. To combat the sensation of fainting I spent a lot of time walking around in circles in my apartment, for some reason I was convinced that this would keep me alive. It seemed that any time I stayed still, whether seated, laying down, or standing, the sensation that I was going to pass out became too overwhelming. My blood pressure seemed rather high and I certainly had tachycardia. I didn't know what was wrong with me but I entertained the horrible notion at various times that this was a potentially serious situation involving my heart and/or kidneys. For neither the first nor last time in my life, I thought I was going to die. Finally the symptoms slowly disappeared and I was thankful to be (mostly) normal again. Aside from sleeping for 12+ hours the following day, I experienced no other physical after-effects, though mentally I was a bit shaken for a few days.

I'm still not sure what happened. I'd combined both substances one time before and it found it weak (the Methylone overshadowed the Moxy entirely, hence the higher doses this time). Needless to say, I won't be repeating the combination, as 5-MeO-MIPT is weird enough (in good and bad ways) on its own.
 
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i have no experience combining them, but 5-meo-mipt on its own has always seemed rather heavy on the body health-wise, so i never had any urges of combining it. although somewhat over-stimulating at times, I did enjoy the substance though. with methylone im afraid it would be overstimulating, and i can't really imagine them synergising too well. If you do it, go very easy on the 5-meo-mipt, i'd say 6mg should definitly be your ceiling.
rule of thumb for combinations: 1+1=3. halving the dose of each drug will still get you 'further out there' then a full dose of one single drug.
 
I was thinking of trying this combination to add a little of the trippiness you get with mdma to the methylone high.

I'd start with a small amount of 5-meo-mipt at first and a slightly lower than normal methylone dose.

Sounds interesting though, let us know how it goes it you try it.
 
I would tend to council against this combination.

Moxy is kinda weird in general (note some of the only-a-little-high dose reports with people losing all touch with reality and having gaps in their memory and doing things while in that state), and methylone is not exactly benign either (being a bit hard on the body, like other cathinones).
 
It appears that this article details a study of 5meo-dipt rather than 5meo-mipt, although given their structural similarity, I wouldn't be surprised if 5-meo-mipt shares this activity.

ebola
 
Atara messed up the link on the second article citation. I've looked a while ago, but couldn't find it that fast searching through sciencedirect and pubmed. I'll just bump his thread and hope he adds the correct link upon seeing it.
 
I've combined e with 5-meo-dipt, and had it lead to a point where i felt insane, rambled incoherently, left myself a voice mail message never to do the combo again, but then the combo settled into something incredibly orgasmic. Not sure the ultimate good feeling was worth the hell I had to go through to get there. I would expect the combo you propose to have similar possibilities for hellishness, insanity and orgasmic bliss, so there's some risk there, but also perhaps something good could come of it.

I do caution that too much foxy, like shrooms, can overwhelm methylone or ecstasy. The ecstasy / mdma high is at least partialy based on dumbing you down so much you feel no anxiety about anything. At times, I've tried hippyflipping and the shrooms made me too thoughtful and reflective, and prevented me from getting blissed out from the e. I've had similar experiences with foxy overwhelming e. Because of the siimiliarities of the compounds, I'd expect 5-meo-mipt also has the capability of overwhelming methylone and preventing one from getting the bliss / euphoria that is the whole point. Again, as originally noted, when you use these just right, you can get a turbocharge of the bliss that is incredibly orgasmic, but I never could nail down just what the right ratios were, and it is probably also fairly setting / mind-frame dependent.

~psychoblast~
 
A good combination with 5-me0 mipt is caffeiene if you want to make the entactogenic qualities more focused. 6-8 mgs of 5-me0 mipt with 50 mgs caffiene is a really solid entactogenic experience. Its not a substitute ecstasy experience in fact its a whole different kind of roll preferable to methylone for sure for me and maybe slightly behind MDMA.
 
caffeine you say? thats an interesting combo. i wonder how many redbulls that is :P

but seriously, i remember on erowid reading about a hospital addmitance because of the combo. might be a freak accident, but be careful.

personally i like them both on their own, and the effects seem quite different, both body and mental wise. combining them seems a bit pointless to me, as an adjusted dose of each will serve just right. thats just my mileage
 
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