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Cigarettes more addictive than Heroin?

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today as i was getting a physical, he told me that tobacco is just as addicting as heroin

i doubt it's as mentally addictive, i've never heard of anyone sucking dick for a cigarette
or physically, i've also never heard of WD's being anything like opiate

feel free to enlighten me:)

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Unknown said:
Are you seriously asking this??? lol

Cigarettes are as addicting, both physically and emotionally. Just because the lifestyle isnt the same doesnt mean it isnt as addictive.
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This.

An addiction is an addiction, period.

Just because people aren't out sucking dick, or robbing people for cigarettes and shit, doesn't mean they aren't addicted. And just for the record, quitting cigarettes, is hard as fuck. It was easier for my [personally] to kick an opiate habit, than it was to quit cigarettes.
 
!_MDMA_! said:
today as i was getting a physical, he told me that tobacco is just as addicting as heroin

i doubt it's as mentally addictive, i've never heard of anyone sucking dick for a cigarette
or physically, i've also never heard of WD's being anything like opiate

feel free to enlighten me:)

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LOL..

ohhh..I dunno, i think price and availability are what keeps people off their knees 8)

If it was just as difficult and expensive to get a cig as it is to get heroin, we might see some desperate moves by people.

and btw, cig WD are pretty much impossible to handle for..probably the majority of people. Thats why they never quit.

Go up to someone with yellow/orange hair and ask them if they have ever tried to quit smoking. Most likely they will tell you a few stories while they lit up their next cig.
 
psh. ive never been hooked on either, but i feel pretty confident ciggs are not as addictive as heroin. sure, all my cigg smoking friends fail at quitting countlessly, but if they started od'ing or feeling like the were not really living their lives because of tobacco, i think they'd be more successful. plus, ive seen my buddies run out of ciggs without anyway of getting more till the next day, they bitch, but then they forget about it and sleep. that what happens when you run out of junk?
 
The hardest part about quitting smoking for me is the fact that its legal. Its really easy for me to not drive to the hood to score but its alot harder to stop when i got easy access to cigarettes everywhere i go. Its getting a little bit easier these days seeing as i would probably get the same looks from people if i shot up on break at work as i do when i light up a smoke. The withdrawls are bad, but dont seem as physically painful/debilitating as kicking dope, but probably mentally worse. I mean shit, most people dont shoot up 20+ times a day every day for decades. Thats pretty reinforcing.
 
I quit smoking cigarettes cold turkey after smoking between 1 and 2 packs a day for 5 years. Withdrawals were nowhere near as bad as OC withdrawals after using 240mg every day for a month. That's not even a very serious opiate habit.

In my personal experience, cigarettes are not more addictive than opiates. Not even close.
 
I go crazy if I am awake more than 2 hours without a cigarette. Never done heroin, I want to but due to my addictive personality I am still contemplating it.
 
how "addicting" a substance is is difficult to assess comparatively like in this thread. first off, what's the measure of it's addiction potential? severity of withdrawals? number of addicts vs. people who've tried it? euphoric potential? heroin, is typically seen to be more immediately reinforcing after just one use than tobacco, but tobacco seems to have a more consistent use pattern (among addicts) than heroin. secondly, the circumstances surrounding the two drugs are vastly different (legality, availability, social acceptability)
 
Good point muGwump, but I think if you're comparing the addictiveness of two subject, you must have conditions that are ideally similar, and in this case heroin would blow cigs out the water, in I'm guessing every category (euphoria, desire, physical dependence , etc)
 
^not necessarily in desire!

of course people don't suck dick for cigarettes, cigarettes are much cheaper and legal. i doubt you would see so many homeless heroin addicts if it was legal too, still wouldn't change the fact that its addictive though, just like it doesn't with tobacco.
 
yes. cigarettes are as addictive as heroin. people go through extreme lenghts to get cigarrettes, i'm sure all of you smokers out there have begged a random stranger for a smoke. and i'm sure that you've gone through your car/couch/room and raided your roomate's change jar (they won't notice, i'll put it back tomorrow, i just REEEEEALLLY wanna smoke) like a fucking fiend to get a cigarrette. of course, the end product is 5 bucks, and a pack will last you....well, way longer than a 20 of h. and being a smoker doesn't interfere with holding down a job or with your legal status the way opiates do. if it did, than there'd be just as much crime due to nicotine as to opiates.
but i kind of have this theory that once someone who is prone to addiction has their drug of choice, all other drugs.....don't necessarily pale in comparison....but it's more like that void is already filled. i've ridden various drug wagons for extended periods of time, but alcohol would be my desert island drug over opiates anyday.
no withdrawls from nicotine? try being around someone who's trying to quit. i cried more, ate more, snapped at anyone for anything, and got insomnia because i didn't have my usual nightime cig. i gave up and now i just limit the amount that i smoke. eventually i'll go down from 3 to 2 a day....but not today. and probably not tomorrow either.
 
^i know what you mean. i always smoke right before i go to bed and if i am over at someone's house and they say for me not to go outside for whatever random reason, i get pissed. i'm usually like, "i am either going outside to smoke my cig or i am going home, you choose!". and i only smoke a quarter pack of cigs a day tops.
 
!_MDMA_! said:
i think it does

the severity of the addiction is the difference in lifestyle
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Bullshit. The difference is that cigarettes are legal, taxed, and (now slightly less) affordable. You don´t have to get your ass raped to support your government sanctioned habit.
 
I think the severity of the addiction varies from person to person. If you are really addicted to nicotine, yes, the withdrawal can be crippling. With some people, the nicotine affects every thing someone does in a day--from regulating sleeping patterns, digestive functions, appetite, (obviously) mood, vision, even the way that person moves and thinks. You can get the same kind of misery brought on by heroin withdrawal (chills, cold sweats, nausea, shakiness, muscle/bone pain, fever, etc.)

Of course, that doesn't happen with everyone. I only know two people who had severe withdrawal like mentioned above after quitting cold turkey. Most people I know just get really moody and annoying when they try to quit (cold turkey or otherwise.) I haven't had a cigarette in... like... a week or two? I don't really notice any difference... but I'm also not really "addicted", I guess I'm classified as a "social smoker".

I guess my point is: just because I don't get a nasty withdrawal doesn't mean that I think every other person out there is just being melodramatic when they nic-fit. Besides, why would doctors lie about something's addiction potential if it's legal? I mean, I can understand being skeptical about a doctor berating someone about the dangers of an illegal substance, assuming most of it is propaganda. There are doctors that preach that kind of stuff... but nicotine addiction is kind of a gold mine in the US anyway.
 
Why does everyone here seem to think type of withdrawal determines how addicting something is? Withdrawals differ because different drugs involve different brain and bodily systems.

Studies have shown that nicotine is more addictive than heroin, and I'm sure thats where your doctor is coming from.
 
one isn't more addictive than the other. its not straight across the board, it VARIES greatly from each individual. It all depends on you personality, etc.

eg. For me personally cigarettes are a joke compared to opiates. cigarettes I could kick and it wouldnt be that big of a problem, with opiates when I kick I have really bad cravings and what not and I "miss" opiates a lot more than cigs. I dunno I kinda feel like tobacoo sucks when sober
 
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