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What do you consider the HARDEST drugs?

1) Heroin
2) Crack/Cocaine
3) Amphetamine/Methamphetamine
All highly addictive and fairly damaging. I know personal stories of people's lives getting ruined by all of these.
 
By terms of hardest drug on the mind, body and a persons life in general i would have to go with methamphetamine. It seems to not only be horribly addictive but also to cause a hell of alot of damage to a persons overall health from what ive seen. It seems to be way destructive then the so called other hard drugs that people always mention like heroin and coke.

I would put alcohol way up there as well since a alcohol addiction is fucking horrible. I should know as it almost killed me. It's also killing many people that used to be my friends because all they care about is drinking and getting enough money to drink. Not to mention that it fucked my brain up for months after i quit the stuff. I felt dumbed down, really depressed and had worse anxiety then ive had in my life even after quitting. A opiate addiction does not seem to be nearly as bad and ive had both. Not that im saying a opiate addiction is great either.

Crack/coke can also turn people into walking trainwrecks fairly quickly if your the type that likes it enough to become hooked on it. Ive had lot's of friends go to complete shit due to cocaine and ive really not noticed any difference between people that prefer snorting cocaine and people that prefer smoking crack in terms of addiction. Almost everyone ive known who would rather snort coke also rock it up from time to time as well and the reverse is also true.

As for people that IV coke ive not seen nearly as much of that mostly because it's kept very secret. There seems to be a big stereotype when it comes to needle use in general as you certainly wouldnt whip out a needle to shoot coke the same way people do a few lines of coke or smoke crack without people thinking much of it. Atleast thats the way it is here. From what ive seen of the few people ive known who regularly IV coke it seems to be alot more compulsive and takes a harder toll on the body and mind. Also they tend to have been using coke/crack for a long time as it is and shooting the stuff reallly sends them into a downward spiral very quickly.
 
Hard is all subjective, based on the person. I hate alcohol, but know many people who cannot get enough of it. A drug is as hard or soft as you let it be in your life. Of course some substances have more potential for addiction or bodily damage, based on ROA and frequency, but it really boils down to the individual, their preferences, and their personality
 
Rio I'm sorry but your utterly incompetent analysis of marijuana has prompted me to dismiss everything and anything you say as false and foolish...



That said i would choose crack. Exploding blood vessels cause very serious internal damage, I also believe its price and onset of action make it the prime drug of terror, coupled with its ease of access in all major cities.
 
i never thought I'd do Ecstasy and now it's my drug of choice...LOL
i guess now that i know more about drugs and people who have done pretty much everything; i'd say Heroin and Meth are the 2 things i know i will NEVER do [never done coke and not sure if i would]
 
Extasee said:
i'd say Heroin and Meth are the 2 things i know i will NEVER do [never done coke and not sure if i would]
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Not to tear you down or anything, in fact more power to you, but i cant even count how many people i know, including myself, who said that and are now total addicts. In the drug world, you can never really say "never", but you can really work on getting there.
 
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I have never gone near Crack and Heroin but the most fucked up I have been was either on Ketamine or inhalants as a kid. Sucking a can of lighter gas through your teeth is about as hard as it comes in terms of damage and possible death. Scares me sometimes when I think of the things I did as a young teenager.

On the gas I could feel my brain being killed. I was looking straight ahead and then turned my head to the left but I was still seeing my original view. Then the new scene slamming into place violently over and over again. Really hard to explain :P Extremely disorientating.

I think the gas wins, there is no way of abusing it responsibly. At least with clean heroin you can enjoy yourself without dying or so I hear. Look at William Burroughs, he took heroin all his LONG life.
 
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If by "hard" you mean most addictive, most physical harm, and most costly to the community I would have to say this is my top 5 in order from most to least "hard".

1. Methamphetamine (Done it)
2. PCP (Never done it, Don't plan on it)
3. Crack (Done it)
4. Inhalants (Only once, Dust Off)
5. Heroin (I LOVE YOU! Done it)
 
^^

in all honesty, i think heroin and crack should go above PCP.
PCP isnt as widespread, and you dont see as many PCP heads as you do crack heads and dope fiends
 
^^^ I don't see how anyone could get addicted or want to become addicted to PCP. Ive only had it once and it was awful something id never try again thats for sure. I was fucking paralysed and in a dissociative state.

Real fun stuff 8) .
 
evilthree said:
Hard is all subjective, based on the person. I hate alcohol, but know many people who cannot get enough of it. A drug is as hard or soft as you let it be in your life. Of course some substances have more potential for addiction or bodily damage, based on ROA and frequency, but it really boils down to the individual, their preferences, and their personality
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Bingo.

Any drug which alters an individual's life to the point where it becomes unmanageable is a hard drug.

My two have been alcohol, (back in the day), and then I discovered opiates. Alcohol was more a "chronic" drug, whereas opiates caused more "acute" damage to my life. I could not care less about alcohol anymore but I suspect I'll always battle a fondness for opiates. Therefore, opiates are probably the "hardest" drug for me.
 
Rio Fantastic said:
1. Marijuana - The deadly marijuana is, of course, number 1. This is number one because of how it brings out the worst in people (violence, schizophrenia etc), high HIGH rate of addiction after just trying it once, its high potential for overdose, etc
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i really, really hope your joking. If not i feel sorry for you.
 
When I was drug naive I thought all drugs are bad. There wasn't a distinction b/w hard and soft. I saw weed as a drug junkies do.

Below are 3 categories of drug groups - 1. soft 2. soft on body/otherwise hard 4. hard
(also another category 4. hard on body/soft in addiction)

1. Weed IMO is the only drug I would today categorize as SOFT. It doesn't take a great toll on the body and people who do it don't show abusive behaviors. There also isn't much stigma attached to it's use. It's more like tons of humor is attached to its use.

2. Heroin I see as having a hard and soft side. It's soft on the body. Withdrawals aren't fatal or life threatening in 99.9% of the users. It causes no damage physically to the body. It's hard cuz it's very addictive, people who use it often show addictive behaviors. There is also tons of stigma attached to its use.

3. I see benzos as hard drugs cuz they are bad for you long term and in a way doctors prescribe them. The withdrawals can be life threatening. They are very addictive even after relatively short term use.

3. Crack/Coke/Meth - nothing good I can say about these. Hard drugs IMO.
3. Inhalants - hard
3. Tobacco, alcohol - althought addictive behaviors aren't as intense as with heroin, crack and other addictive substances
4. hallucinogens like PCP, LSD, shrooms, MDMA, RC's - most are not addictive but can be neurotoxic, some are better than others, these can cause long term brain damage in a way that heroin, morphine (other opiates), weed never will.
 
I think the reason most people here have never done PCP yet think it is hard is cuz of the drug propaganda. But the OP's question was "What drugs did u think were hard when u were drug naive" so in a way PCP for many is the right answer. They did think PCP was bad when they were drug naive. There was lots of stuff back in the day about PCP being bad and it just stuck in people's head even thou today they have absolutely no contact with it.
 
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