Mexico Expected To Enact Liberalized Drug Law

and @ "alt 14". a Libertarian? hah, you've got to be kidding me. you're the one dreaming if you think America will vote a Libertarian into office. we're a Two-Party country, just not officially.
Let's see if you'll be saying that when the food riots and gang/militia battles start happening, assuming they do. If we still have traditional American infrastructure by 2012 (doubtful), I'm confident a Libertarian will win.


Just one man's professional prediction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2qDW34Fr64
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFtePsHsUk
Keep in mind it's been getting worse since these videos were made.



Back to drugzzz!!! Get em son.
 
To be fair, what were all of you expecting? Given the constraints of the American culture and political apparatus, I think he is doing a wonderful job. The President of the USA simply doesn't have the power to enact or strike down initiatives or plans or laws on a whim. The President is merely a figurehead, not a source of power in and of himself.

I shudder at the thought of where we be right now had the other two won the election. What do you think McCain/Palin would do in the face of Mexico proposing decriminalization and liberalization of its drug policies? Military force? Proxy war? Sanctions?

Thank you. People on this site are pretty ridiculous when it comes to Obama. Granted some legit criticism is warranted but the guy is the President. He's not going to just legalize all drugs, however he is the most understanding president we have had when it comes to issues regarding drug use and treatment. Small steps.

He's not going to invade Mexico over this decision. Frankly, he is the best possible choice we could have at this time. The guy basically helped spark a revolution in Iran with just his presence.

He has stated that he will not use federal powers to interfere in states marijuana decisions. That is a huge change. I thought most libertarians were big states rights guys?

Frankly, we have bigger fish to fry right now. I'd be pissed if he was just sitting and focusing on drugs laws.
 
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I voted for Ron Paul...

Who was a bible thumping christian conservative who happened to personally favor drug legalization, again the president doesn't just have the power to say "I legalize all drugs!"

I don't understand why people went all apeshit over some Strum Thurmond wannabe.
 
Let's see if you'll be saying that when the food riots and gang/militia battles start happening, assuming they do. If we still have traditional American infrastructure by 2012 (doubtful), I'm confident a Libertarian will win.

LOL easily the stupidest thing I've ever read here. We're not remotely close to food riots if you haven't noticed.

You might as well predict the Messiah's return or coming, depending on whether your ancestors speak hebrew / arabic or english / german / latin
 
"That is the fear, if somewhat overstated, of some Mexican officials, especially in northern border states that serve as a mecca for underage U.S. drinkers."

the fear? fuck the fear. embrace the somewhat-existant freedom in the flow..live and let live. that part really stirred me up cuz fear would be the only thing stopping any kind of liberalized drug law, and that's been the situation in the U.S. for many decades. and fear is used as a tool to control. so yeah, fuck "the fear"...all i feel like saying for now..
 
LOL easily the stupidest thing I've ever read here. We're not remotely close to food riots if you haven't noticed.

You might as well predict the Messiah's return or coming, depending on whether your ancestors speak hebrew / arabic or english / german / latin

actually dude IMO, I don't really believe you know jack-ass-shit, if only by gathering what you so politely provided in that condescending reply. you werent talking to me obviously, but exactly what n how the fuck do you know? if the world keeps up like this by 2012, it could be social anarchy (every man for himself style)...you never know. prolly not by 2012, but eventually that's what I think will happen. we as the human race will destroy ourselves before anything else does.:\

p.s. the "predicting Messiah return" comment is by all means unnecessary let alone ridiculous and irrelevant. well at least you have a sense of humour lol

Obama's second term, yeah, he's got things going real smooth so far:p

could be worse. I try to remain grateful. he's got the phattest shoes to fill, man. you gotta throw him some credit even if he is acting douchebaggy.

you know, a lot of people are knocking Obama already, he's only been in office for what? 5 or 6 months? something like that... anyway, look at the shithole he was elected in to. of course its going to take some time to turn things around.

now I'm not saying he's the best president we've ever had by any means, but give the guy a chance. he's trying at least...


and @ "alt 14". a Libertarian? hah, you've got to be kidding me. you're the one dreaming if you think America will vote a Libertarian into office. we're a Two-Party country, just not officially.

someone didn't have their Wheaties this morning =D
...wanna put a lil more faith into the mix rather than this "we're a Two-Party country, just not"... this is exactly the kind of attitude that is wrong with admittedly most of us today...lack of faith, lack of hope, lack of confidence to actively support what you believe in to be possible. (i.e. change)
 
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Thank you. People on this site are pretty ridiculous when it comes to Obama. Granted some legit criticism is warranted but the guy is the President. He's not going to just legalize all drugs, however he is the most understanding president we have had when it comes to issues regarding drug use and treatment. Small steps.

He's not going to invade Mexico over this decision. Frankly, he is the best possible choice we could have at this time. The guy basically helped spark a revolution in Iran with just his presence.

He has stated that he will not use federal powers to interfere in states marijuana decisions. That is a huge change. I thought most libertarians were big states rights guys?

Frankly, we have bigger fish to fry right now. I'd be pissed if he was just sitting and focusing on drugs laws.

Who was a bible thumping christian conservative who happened to personally favor drug legalization, again the president doesn't just have the power to say "I legalize all drugs!"

I don't understand why people went all apeshit over some Strum Thurmond wannabe.

On a personal level I'm sure he is a great guy; he strikes me as honest, intelligent and owner of a strong work ethic and ideals. Plus I have a similar passion about unions and community organizing as he does. But to treat him as anything but a figurehead is ludicrous. I like when any president becomes the punching bag for local representatives and Congressional outbursts and behavior (or actions / inactions).

Ron Paul strikes me as the next generation of right-wing ideologue. On the one hand they do have some good ideas (emphasis on local government, controlled spending, libertarian social values, etc) but are absolutely batshit crazy on a lot of important stuff. The Republican Party may very well be abandoned in favor of a purged Libertarian Party or the creation of a new centre-right national party.

What really swayed me with R.Paul was his open letter about ending the persecution of doctors who prescribe opioids, and the end to 'opiophobia' among medical staff and the stigma against pain patients. All of that was great to hear from a politician. But then he adds a section about using those resources to lock up those dirty street junkies or some such nonsense.

It's hard to read people like that when it comes to foreign policy issues, like the decision of other countries to legalize or decriminalize drugs. Or to enact liberal or revolution treatment programs.

It will be interesting to see what the American response to this is.
 
actually dude IMO, I don't really believe you know jack-ass-shit, if only by gathering what you so politely provided in that condescending reply. you werent talking to me obviously, but exactly what n how the fuck do you know? if the world keeps up like this by 2012, it could be social anarchy (every man for himself style)...you never know. prolly not by 2012, but eventually that's what I think will happen.

Morons have been predicting this since the 1960s. Guess what? We've gone through similarly hard times and the moronic predictions never pan out.

It certainly wasn't because we've had good leadership. Good god, through that period we could hardly have had worse leadership. Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush v 2? Yikes, Clinton and Obama are the only two I've liked anything about.

What would have been worse? The guys they beat had won?
 
around when is this expected to be signed? aka when should i click on this thread for an update?
 
The US government has narrowly missed a couple of coups d'etats, Hammilton. Not all that recently. But it has nonetheless. But it's a moot discussion anyway because that kind of thing is like lightning striking, it's really impossible to predict when it's going to happen, so why bother worrying?

About Obama, just remember this, children: he's the face of the nation, not the body or the brain.
 
Morons have been predicting this since the 1960s. Guess what? We've gone through similarly hard times and the moronic predictions never pan out.

It certainly wasn't because we've had good leadership. Good god, through that period we could hardly have had worse leadership. Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush v 2? Yikes, Clinton and Obama are the only two I've liked anything about.

What would have been worse? The guys they beat had won?

Hammilton... is this the 60s? no, it isn't, it's far from it. whats that...40+ years ago? I think the whole system is fucked. if possible Im gonna vote for Paul/Ventura, two intelligent, experienced men who actually work toward spreading the TRUTH. "Moronic predictions"... predictions can't really be "moronic" to me, though im referring to this particular one. im an optimist but i am realistic, too. if things keep going on like they are, then it's a likely possible. and I'm certainly not the only one "predicting" it. just look around you man, people are going crazier everyday from daily experience in American life... and so am I think ;)

Morons have been predicting this since the 1960s. Guess what? We've gone through similarly hard times and the moronic predictions never pan out.

It certainly wasn't because we've had good leadership. Good god, through that period we could hardly have had worse leadership. Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush v 2? Yikes, Clinton and Obama are the only two I've liked anything about.

What would have been worse? The guys they beat had won?

Perhaps not only that, but if you practice being grateful for what we have now, it's seems rather "predictable" to declare that Obama could be worse (and all his buddies behind him) than Bush, to put it very simply. The point I'm making is that, we won't know til it happens. Sure Obama is highly intelligent and buh was a moron , but whos really behind operating the machine? btw People tend to guess or predict particular events to happen, i.e. Mayan Calendar. to put it very simply, once again. do you see what I'm sayin? I'm not a demoncrat nor a republicon, this year is flyin by, but Ohblama needs to "cowboy up" a little (lol).. but at the same time, I still have faith in the HOPE and CHANGE we need. it won't be all bad, i believe...you win some, you lose some.
 
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acting director of the Drug Enforcement Administration said in April that legalization of drugs "would be a failed law-enforcement strategy for both the U.S. and Mexico."
Cheaacchh, That's right you whiny little biotch, your ah Trick.
 
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