Okay, Here's why I respect Deadmau5 :

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srsly thoz ppl rn't djs lol they don't even know how 2 beatmatch rofl and abledon is just like a computer who can dj haha real djs r the wunz who can get lots of vynil (sp lol?) and mix and rly work the room ya know?
 
Yall are arguing about 2 diff things.....

Being a good DJ doesnt mean you are a good producer i.e John Digweed, Hernan Cattaneo, Paul Oakenfold

And being a good producer doesnt mean you are a good DJ i.e Tiesto, Kaskade, Klute, ect....too many to name

DJing in itself is such a vague term nowadays anyway....

Its a totally diff art being a straight mix DJ as opposed to say a scratch DJ. Even then, there are many diff kinds of straight mixing DJ's.....

Then there are remixer and producer sets, which IMO, trumps all other forms of DJing as you are really performing and making your own art from scracth....i.e James Zabiela, Hybrid

As for Deadmau5.....I've only heard a few tunes here and there.......sounds a lil bland to me but im not a big fan of electro to begin w/ so cant comment really....
 
OK well it looks like we're all in agreement that deadmau5 is a talentless fad, whose core fanbase consists of 18 year-old kids who have never heard anything better, and who plays 'amazing live sets' by hitting play in Abledon and pressing meaningless buttons on control surfaces in an attempt to con said 18 year olds into beleiving that he's reconstructing his boring, homogenous tracks from scratch.

HERE'S A TIP FOR YOU KIDS: IF YOU WANT TO SEE A REAL LIVE ELECTRONIC MASTERCLASS, GO AND SEE UNDERWORLD PLAY. ONLY THEN WILL YOU SEE (AND HEAR) DEADMAU5 FOR WHAT HE REALLY IS.
 
srsly lol he just opens abledon and presses play and the music cums out and he doesn't even no how 2 beatmach rofl and just fakes it.

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this thread is now about justice
 
toa$t said:
DJing, and the 'ability' to select 20 tracks THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS WRITTEN does not deserve any respect, in my humble opinion (this from a guy who djs regularly). sure djing is lots of fun, but I have found that what it REALLY takes to be a 'good dj' is knowing a lot of well connected people and throwing successful parties.
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"what it REALLY takes to be a 'good dj' is knowing a lot of well connected people and throwing successful parties". i'm sorry but you shouldn't call yourself a "dj", cause i don't care how good you are, the fact is you don't know the first thing about being a dj.

to begin with, im a mini deadmau5 fan who thinks that he has about 5 really good tracks and maybe another 5 mediocre ones. the rest of his music is extremely repetitive and generic in its ideas and execution.

that's for his production, as for his live show, i've seen him last year in amnesia in ibiza and i really enjoyed his set. but i don't think i will enjoy it if i see him again.

so to the point, your argument that playing your own production in ableton trumps djing and track selection is utter bullshit imo.

yes it takes time and effort to prepare his set to play his own productions and loops, but it isnt as hard as you make it out to be and djing and track selection for a proper set could be much more difficult.

deadmau5 has been playing pretty much the same set for about a year, largely because he only plays his own music, this alone is a huge downside for your whole argument that its much more difficult to do what he does and that we should respect him for it.
the fact that djs go out there and try to play a different set that matches the venue and the crowd and that also expresses their musical style, through playing current tracks or classics or whatever and maybe going through different genres to create a proper set. that is much harder.

also he was saying in an interview that he always plans for his set down to the last bit and that he doesn't read the crowd or improvise in his playing. im all for djs preparing their set but losing the ability to improvise is just a step too far.

and although his sets are technically good, they have no real flow most of the time. and having his loops and samples prepared for the live set is not that difficult, and no, im not saying that anyone can do it.
for one, all the separate loops he uses are the building blocks of his tracks that are done using ableton, so after he produces a track they are ready for him to use in his live performance.

so if you are a deadmau5 fan, i advise you to channel your admiration and respect towards his production abilities, cause mostly that's what he does, and the skills he uses for his live set are about 90% studio skills, and btw there are producers that are more talented and creative than him by a long shot. but i guess people just have diff perspectives. ;)
 
Hypnotik1 said:
Yall are arguing about 2 diff things.....
Being a good DJ doesnt mean you are a good producer i.e John Digweed, Hernan Cattaneo, Paul Oakenfold

And being a good producer doesnt mean you are a good DJ i.e Tiesto, Kaskade, Klute, ect....too many to name

DJing in itself is such a vague term nowadays anyway....

Its a totally diff art being a straight mix DJ as opposed to say a scratch DJ. Even then, there are many diff kinds of straight mixing DJ's.....

Then there are remixer and producer sets, which IMO, trumps all other forms of DJing as you are really performing and making your own art from scracth....i.e James Zabiela, Hybrid
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....I agree with most of what you just said... but I dont like the examples you just used... at all.

But your main point, is true though. Lee burridge, is a good example of a good Dj... and a bad producer. Ellen Allien is a good example of a good producer... somewhat of a iffy Dj...

I think Tiesto is a good trance producer, and Dj, but none the less seriously overrated. Many kids call him the "greatest" Dj in the world, on the tipity top... and thats just ridicoulous. He is nowhere near the top Djs.. at all, its all just hype.

John Digweed, although a good producer, is a great Dj. Yea hes very popular and the works, but thats not why I think hes great. Digweed uses whats new, his style, and all together makes something new, ex: When minimal was hot, he would make a tech house mix.. with a minimal sence to it.. When Techno was making a come back in late 07 early 08, He would mix Techno but add his own style to it, making it completely different to the Techno vibe that Minus artists and Bpitch Control artists would give... as of recently his style is usually tech house.. and all though I wouldnt consider him to be the greatest Dj in the world, he certainly knows what hes doing.

Theres also such a thing as a bad Dj AND bad producer, and thats deadmau5. In my opinion at least.
 
sHiba said:
"what it REALLY takes to be a 'good dj' is knowing a lot of well connected people and throwing successful parties". i'm sorry but you shouldn't call yourself a "dj", cause i don't care how good you are, the fact is you don't know the first thing about being a dj.
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sHiba said:
"what it REALLY takes to be a 'good dj' is knowing a lot of well connected people and throwing successful parties". i'm sorry but you shouldn't call yourself a "dj", cause i don't care how good you are, the fact is you don't know the first thing about being a dj.

to begin with, im a mini deadmau5 fan who thinks that he has about 5 really good tracks and maybe another 5 mediocre ones. the rest of his music is extremely repetitive and generic in its ideas and execution.
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this is going nowhere... fast.

uhm, what does it take to be a good Dj?

In my opinion, your own style, a concept or concepts in mind, and the most important, keeping up to date with songs.. thats very important to me.

Now, on what you quoted him.. well hes got a point, but that doesnt mean that thats actually bad! My favorite parties, or raves, whatever, are the small ones, private ones, which by the way ive been very fortunate to be able to attend them, and most of all... to be invited to.. all of which have been all over Latin America and Europe.. London, Rome, Florence, Mexico City.. to be precise.. and all the Djs ive seen.. are well connected, with the drugs, the money, etc

so, he does have a point
 
stop with the pictures, youve maid your point, your a dick and annoying

I dont need to copy paste a URL for a pic to prove your an infant
 
when we are talking about a dj i assume we are discussing his music, not what kind of party he plays in and who is in it. so no i don't measure a good dj by that, and even so, most djs who are in the position of knowing "people" and having the drugs or whatever, aren't in that position because of their good humor. and especially because he was implying that being a good dj boils down to knowing people etc.

as for what it takes to be a good dj you've mentioned some good points, i would add the ability to work a crowd and integrating sounds from different genres into suiting your style...etc
and possessing good technical ability and using technology to push your sound to the next level are always a plus
 
sHiba said:
so no i don't measure a good dj by that, and even so, most djs who are in the position of knowing "people" and having the drugs or whatever, aren't in that position because of their good humor. and especially because he was implying that being a good dj boils down to knowing people etc.

as for what it takes to be a good dj you've mentioned some good points, i would add the ability to work a crowd and integrating sounds from different genres into suiting your style...etc
and possessing good technical ability and using technology to push your sound to the next level are always a plus
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I actually do.. the kind of people that attend the party and the likes, is also a very important factor to me... but thats just me.

yea thats also a given... very well put too, technical ability.. nicely worded, I agree.
 
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