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NEWS : 1.6.09 - Heroin market back to the bad old days

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Heroin market back to the bad old days

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The so-called heroin drought looks like being well and truly over, as paramedics and emergency department doctors say they are treating rapidly increasing numbers of heroin overdose victims.

They say the drug has been making a comeback over the last six months.

But despite the increase in overdose cases, the debate over prohibition has not gone away and there are some who say heroin should actually be legalised.

When heroin use was peaking a decade ago, Dr Gordian Fulde at Sydney's St Vincents hospital was treating at least one heroin overdose victim every day.

Now, he says those days have returned.

"We have an increase of people coming into the emergency department having overdosed on heroin. We also have an increase of people who admit to taking heroin - so heroin's coming back," he said.

Quality 'through the roof'

Thirty-nine-year-old Gordon has been a daily user for almost 20 years and he says there has been an increase in quantity and quality.

"The quality's gone through the roof lately. It was probably about 30 per cent, 40 per cent - now it's jumped up to about 60, 70 per cent," he said.

"It's the purity of it that's making people drop because they think they can handle it.

"If you've got a small habit, like if you're only using one 50, two 50s a day, when the purity goes through the roof like that, you're not expecting it and people don't tell you."

Gordon says he has been lucky and has never overdosed. But he says he knows people who have.

"I was speaking to a mate earlier who'd just come from the hospital who dropped today, so yeah I know a fair few people actually," he said.

"In the last three or four days, actually."

Legalisation debate

In the late 1990s there was a reduction in the availability of heroin because the war in Afghanistan disrupted supplies.

A big crackdown by Australian police also tightened the market here.

Now it seems heroin is flooding back and some long-time observers are ambivalent about the consequences.

The pastor at Sydney's Wayside Chapel, Graham Long, helps counsel heroin users every day.

"I actually think the word heroin spikes off a raw nerve in the public's mind but I don't see why that is the case actually," he said.

"In fact I put it to you that alcohol's a much bigger problem. Alcohol's a nasty drug. Just because it's socially acceptable it's kind of the elephant in the room.

"But the truth is, if you get any crowd and add alcohol, people want to hurt each other, and that doesn't happen with heroin or most of the other drugs. So, as drugs go, it's a nasty thing, it's quite a social problem."

Pastor Long says he thinks heroin should be legalised.

"I don't quite understand why we want to fund a criminal path - why we want to hand to a criminal path a market has got me beat. I just don't understand," he said.

Soft drug?

Heroin user Gordon agrees, saying other illicit drugs are more damaging.

"You don't see people going loopy on gear [heroin]," he said.

"The worst that can happen to you on gear is you go to sleep, sort of thing. But with the ice, people go silly. With the amphetamines, people go silly.

"I definitely think heroin would be one of the softer drugs."

But that is not so, according to Dr Fulde, who says heroin is a killer.

"Crystal meth, the amphetamines, the cocaine per se don't in the first instance kill you, they just wind you up, you go mad, you do all sorts of things, but you don't stop breathing - it's not a death thing," he said.

"You might die because you run in front of a train or do something stupid, and because you're totally out of it.

"But heroin on its own, it's a killer. It stops you breathing and I would love heroin not to be around at all."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/06/01/2586395.htm?section=australia
 
yep.... the ice market dies on its arse, and the heroin market picks right back up... it's uncanny, really, as the switch and timing were literally exact. but it suits me, because i have no desire of the latter, and when it was ice galore circa a few years back, the temptation was just too much. it's so much easier knowing it's nowhere near as abundant, even though i'd like to think i'd still have stayed clean off the shards for 6 months if circumstances were different. but i doubt it. lol
i'm just wondering how many people, who made the switch off h to shards initially (due to it being cheaper at first), will be going back? sounds like a fair few... as heroin's not really the drug that newcomers defer to these days.
 
^ I doubt many people switched from smack to ice, maybe the somewhat recreational IV drug users switched to the more available and higher quality product but the smack heads would of stayed true to smack or switched to other opiates, meth isn't gonna cure dope sickness.

Its the push down, pop up effect though, they concentrate their efforts on eradicating and demonizing one drug and then dealers take the oppurtunity to import and sell another at hgh purity and cheap prices.

That pastor is pretty cool for admitting alcohol is a much worse social problem than heroin, I have been putting off going and scoring a 50 or two of smack for months due to limited funds, after reading this article I might go do it in the near future lol.

They will never get rid of drug users or junkies, when will they accept it? Law enforcement, politicians and the community are so blind they don't see how much unneccessary harm this drug war is causing, if dependant heroin users could go and buy a legal dose at known purity and for a fraction of the price there would be very little overdoses and drug related crime would plummet *sigh*, it is a fucked and retarded world we live in...
 
nah - a lot of them went on bupe/methadone etc & started IV'ing ice instead...

let's not forget how much an IV habit has to do with the ritual itself.

and yeah if i could buy medical grade MDMA without having to go to inordinate lengths to source the shit, i would most likely die & go to heaven. lol
 
In reality, the reason why heroin died in the arse here is because one of the main importation methods (something I won't be discussing) got pinged several years back. Heroin is a hardish one to ship. You can do all kinds of funky shit with coke in terms of shipping methods, except its mega expensive - no land border to some backwater third world country to act as a staging point, and therefore it remains the preserve of the moneyed.

Ice is locally manufacturable, so its a good move from an economics standpoint, but lately, things have been changing. I'm seeing posters in bus shelters around the CBD ranting about ice. Never saw that happen with smack did we? That, combined with the fact that all the motorcycle clubs are copping it at the moment means that the landscape is shifting once again.
 
Maybe this means I can finally actually find some in SA :)

I know it exists here, but I always moved in the wrong circles. It's the last major drug I haven't tried that I really want to (wouldn't mind DMT, but I'll live without it, and I'd consider GHB, but I have a lot of misgivings about it due to seeing what it's done to the hard dance scene in melbourne).

Kind of ironic that the major argument against legalization is 'but people die because they can't measure their doseage and they OD.' When the only reason they can't measure their doseage is that it's legal...
 
Fortehlulz, why do you believe heroin would be harder to import than cocaine? Surely one could get just as inventive with heroin as they could coke, they are both either pressed blocks or powder so I don't see why importing heroin would be any harder.
 
The gear has been very good lately, whether or not I have been getting the high purity level or not is another thing, because I have nothing to compare it to. If I end up using this weekend I'll report back about the purity and maybe just use 1/4 of a half instead of half a half like I usually do.

Interesting nonetheless. Hopefully it will get cheaper as well.
 
I knew a guy who got a hard-on the instant he got his smack taste in the back of his mouth.

no soft spot there apparently. lol
 
Fortehlulz, why do you believe heroin would be harder to import than cocaine? Surely one could get just as inventive with heroin as they could coke, they are both either pressed blocks or powder so I don't see why importing heroin would be any harder.

I know u asked Fortehlulz but ur question reminded me of this thread

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=7170138

The structure of cocaine allows for some funky chemistry where as heroin is less "malleable"
 
Cheers for that link Ignatius, pretty interesting thread. It isn't as of the drug smugglers don't do the whole hollowed out items full of drugs thing anymore, I am certain that would be more common than methods detailed in that thread.
 
Ice is locally manufacturable, so its a good move from an economics standpoint, but lately, things have been changing. I'm seeing posters in bus shelters around the CBD ranting about ice. Never saw that happen with smack did we? That, combined with the fact that all the motorcycle clubs are copping it at the moment means that the landscape is shifting once again.

Sometimes I wonder how much demand is driven by bigger factors than local supply routes. How much of an influence is the current economic climate in changing the focus from stimulants like meth to depressants like heroin again?

While talking about noticing an increase in the number of ODs I've seen around the CBD lately I made the comment that it can't be long before a little known rock band out of Seattle appear on the scene to change the face of popular music.

Prosperity = meth, ecstasy
Uncertain times = alcohol, opiates

??

Perhaps I'm just talking shit :)
 
Not really, I think it's an interesting observation, and I was wondering the same thing about a link between the current state of the MDMA market and the economic downturn, which seem to have aligned up.
 
That's a very interesting linkage...

I had always drawn the link between meth and capitalism/the desire for more, more, more, esp. in terms of productivity... but hadn't really noticed it with opiates.

I guess because opiates were on the rise up until around the mid/late-90s when things were still picking up... perhaps now moreso than back then, the psycho-cultural factors are playing a larger role than socio-political factors.
 
Hmmm, I wonder if they might concentrating on Heroin importation again and leave the MD alone for a while
 
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