Mephedrone Megathread - Second Line

[The Kid]

The first few times I tried it I drank like a fish and felt utterly shit the day after, I wouldn't recommend mixing it with anything more than a couple of beers.

Do you not feel shit anyway when youy drink like a fish? 10pints+ is always going to make me feel bad the next day!

 

[TheSpade]

Aye the amount of booze that gets drunk on stims can be unreal but you tend to just think it's the drugs making you feel shite the next day and forget all about the mammoth hangover you are no doubt suffering.

 

[The Kid]

Aye the amount of booze that gets drunk on stims can be unreal but you tend to just think it's the drugs making you feel shite the next day and forget all about the mammoth hangover you are no doubt suffering.

Defo. Stupid people.

 

[Ceres]

Do you not feel shit anyway when youy drink like a fish? 10pints+ is always going to make me feel bad the next day!

Yeah I should have been clearer, what I meant is, I didn't realise just how much I was drinking while I was on it, so far exceeded what I would usually drink and pretty much gave myself alcohol poisoning. The worst day after feelings from a mephedrone binge have always involved drinking in my experience.

 

[Riklet]

I drank a huge amount (ok, not huge, but i'd never drink that much on E) the one and only time I did meph, about 4 litres of cider and i'm not a huge drinker really. The issues it caused are more than anxiety or a rapid heart beat, and seeing as it's just one person's experience against another, i'm viewing mine as the decider.

I doubt i'll take the stuff again, it was a heavy night but I didn't even do 1/2 a gram of it (snorting and bombing though), n whilst I had a wicked night and not much comedown the next day it led to several weeks of noticing the "pounding heart" thing, like my heart was closer to the surface and was just well... ticking differently. Fast heart I can deal with, getting pains, occasional palpitations and pressure every single night and lying in bed feeling worried as hell I can't, maybe I am a hypochondriac but that's just too much for me...

Oh and i'd say it's one of the nicest feeling drugs i've tried, possibly. Then again if I hadn't have done it I wouldn't have cut down on almost everything for several months, n be feeling as good as I do now, so hey. This is all just my subjective personal feelings on the stuff anyhoo..

 

[The Kid]

Yeah I should have been clearer, what I meant is, I didn't realise just how much I was drinking while I was on it, so far exceeded what I would usually drink and pretty much gave myself alcohol poisoning. The worst day after feelings from a mephedrone binge have always involved drinking in my experience.

Hahaha, that makes more sense.

I've taught myslef over the last 10 years to stop drinking when on any drugs when the clock hits around 1 or 2. Result is i rarely feel too bad the next day.

 

[Ceres]

Hahaha, that makes more sense.

I've taught myslef over the last 10 years to stop drinking when on any drugs when the clock hits around 1 or 2. Result is i rarely feel too bad the next day.

Yeah I learned my lesson quickly Now it's generally just a couple of beers in the early evening then onto the robinsons barley water diluting juice. Then maybe a couple of beers again on the tail end, but have since realised that GBL is far and away the best way to call it a night after a mephedrone/methylone sesh.

 

[The Kid]

I don't mind beer or cider constantly during the day/night, but (for me) having a good gap of a few hours between last drink and going to bed seems to negate the effects of a hangover.

Never taken GBL. In fact never taken anything following a stims session.

 

[Ceres]

I've found GBL to be boring and pointless on it's own, but it really is a godsend to have some to hand when it's beginning to get light outside and you're still feeling wired and can't sleep atall.

 

[witchammer]

still my question is does it make or deplete serotonin---and also if I go out drinking, just drinking--I can drink for days and function fine with hanover and dehydration but add meph (again I'm not fighting anyone, I really am trying to figure out if I can enjoy this or leave it) also is this what is in suc coca as I don't remember any bad side effects--I don't have time today to utfse as I am going on a double shift

 

[IRL.icecoolmadness]

Yeah I should have been clearer, what I meant is, I didn't realise just how much I was drinking while I was on it, so far exceeded what I would usually drink and pretty much gave myself alcohol poisoning.

Happens too damn often with meph, more so than most other stims imho. My brother sneaked away from my watchful eye after insufflating a righteous dose and polished off 0.7l bottle of henny in a space of 30-40 mins and he isnt that much of a drinker, normally a few pints do him well.

 

[curvygal19]

I tried drinking when I was coming down from Meph and it tasted disgusting and my mouth was really dry so I just put it back in the fridge.

I never did like mixing drink with MDMA or speed either.

 

[The Kid]

Happens too damn often with meph, more so than most other stims imho. My brother sneaked away from my watchful eye after insufflating a righteous dose and polished off 0.7l bottle of henny in a space of 30-40 mins and he isnt that much of a drinker, normally a few pints do him well.

Hahaha, i bet that gave him a sore bonce the next day!

 

[Urbain]

Bonce. Haha, havent heard that word in years. Hahahaha.

 

[witchammer]

wow, I am new to this forum but belong to others and I can't belive that I have to post this question again as I and all the other places on the internet are always so quick to help others---regarding serotonin levels I'll just go somewhere else to get opinions---thanx Bluelight---nice knowing ya

 

[Shambles]

Righty - here comes a stim-fuelled meph meander. Brought to you tonight by pretend peevee, although I was mixing it with meph a bit yesterday. For the record - it's a lovely combo... at first. More than around 150-200mg of meph and it becomes seriously unpleasant - I'd skip that one if I were you

I was kinda on the fence about the heart stuff before I tried it, but was leaning towards the cardiotoxic camp based on F&Bs warnings that the molecule has "cardiotoxic" printed through it like a stick of stim-crazy Blackpool rock. He knows his chemistry and - if memory serves - said that he wouldn't touch it with a shitty stick. Compared it to pipz in terms of likely nastiness, I believe. Had a fairly open mind though cos I miss the sheer pleasure of a genuinely good stim.

First time I tried it was when I'd already been up for three days on AMT, LSD and several doses of 2C-I. Had decided it was beddybyes time but - with perfect timing - a gram of meph plopped through my doorflap just before I cracked out the benzos to hit the sack. Thoroughbred drugpig that I am, the lure of an exotic new stim was irresistable so I didn't resist. Got through the whole gram (almost all bombed apart from one or two lines which I found less satisfactory than oral dosing) over the course of around 12-18 hours. I also got through around 40mg of 2C-I over that same timeframe - cos I oink

For those that don't know, 2C-I is seriously stimulating - like strong speed with added swirls. Obviously I'd built up some tolerance during the three day binge I'd been on, but even so 40mg of 2C-I (2 X 20mg rectally) is some serious stimulation - comparable to a gram or two of decent speed, perhaps - especially with the AMT and quite probably a few other 2C-bits along the way. The meph chilled me out completely - killed the edgy, tweaked, trippy, comedowny overstimulation stone dead and I had one of the most mellow, euphoric, blissful and unbelievable empathogenic trips I can recall ever having. Made MDMA look like meth by comparison - was simply divine

Given that they are both notoriously overstimulating (and AMT ain't exactly a sedative either) I just couldn't get over how chilled it was for the whole day. I'd had the standard stim-based heart jumping through hoops and doing it's best Chestburster from Alien impression for ages - cos that's what yo get when you take fuckloads of stims and don't sleep or eat for a couple of days. It's not something that's ever been a worry for me anyway. Given the quite frankly ludicrous shit I've given my heart over the years it's really not something I give a second thought to - let alone get stressed about.

The meph completely stopped all that crazy heart stuff anyway - completley chilled me out physically and I actually felt healthier than I had for months if not years. Really couldn't believe how gentle it was. Felt almost like some kind of benzo or opiate kicking in when you're crashing from a weeklonng crack binge. Was truly blissful, beatiful, calm and serene - absolutely amazing combo which completely changed my opinion of the stuff. I'd mostly thought of it as being like some kind of weak pills cut with a bit of phet or summat from all I'd read on it. Complete U-turn - I very nearly became one of these "ZOMG!!! It's like double-dropping doves in '91 all over again - but no comedown!!! Best. Drug. Ever. " kinda posters who always pop up when they first try the stuff.

Had it a few times since and still really enjoy it for the most part. Do kinda think of it as MDMA lite with a bit of speed chucked in - nice, but nothing too amazing and too short-acting to ever be one of the greats. I mostly don't bother with it taken alone cos it's always been a bit meh, but I fuckin' love the stuff in combo with just about anything. Like G in a way - nice enough by itself but never going to rock my world. Mix it with a nice stim/psyche and it becomes something a bit special though - lasts a lot longer, synergises with just about everything, and is actually quite trippy itself - good dose of meph can produce some very pleasant visuals without the trip.

In short, my opinion went from suspicious and a bit snooty to a newfound ally that's well deserving of it's place amongst properly good drugs in me stashbox

That was all with oral dosing though. Snorted I really don't enjoy it much at all - kinda like the cheapest, nastiest coke ever that's been heavily cut with the cheapest, nastiesy speed there's ever been. Feels great for all of ten minutes then it's straight to Sketchville and that heart stuff (which I don't get any of with oral dosing) can really get completely out of hand. I have no need to dicksize my excesses with stims cos it's old news, but for those folks who are surprised at the amount of lengthy 24/7 stim/psyche binges I often enjoy now could see what I used to get through... let's just say that what would now last me a week I'd get through in a night in my late teens/early 20s. I'm not kidding, dicksizing or exaggerating even a smidge either - £2000 worth of blindingly good crack would be lucky to last an afternoon in those days - as long as someone else was paying for it anyway :D

And that was just the rock - I'll spare your envy over the MDMA/MDA combo pills that were just fuckin' stupidly (heavenly ) potent that were everywhere and the 300ug blotter that went for 50p a pop if you even had to pay for it. Fuck me they new how to make drugs properly then - kinda went to shit somewhere in the mid-90s and has been getting worse ever since

If you younger folks who are shocked to find that a gram of speed might actually keep you awake for a whole 24+ hours (8(8)) got a chance to sample pure (well, as pure as it's ever going to get an still be usuable cos I believe it's mighty corrosive in it's completley pure state) liquid base phet - straight from the chemist and into my waiting veins - I honestly don't know what you'd make of it. Dip the tip of your finger in it and rub it on your gums and you'd be up longer (and totally overwhelmed with the rushes and euphoria that would give even the besy MDMA a run for it's money) than you would on an 1/8 of the stuff mongtastic lactose cut with cat piss and wafted past a bit of phet that's sold as base these days... The shock and excitement would probably kill half of ya and leave the other half needing therapy

I wish some of this Polish stuff would come my way cos that sounds much more like speed as I think of it - a skinny matchstick line or two and you're bouncing off the walls for 24 hours. It's what speed's supposed to do. Base paste is not far from being sedating whenever I've had it these last few years - I once IVed a gram in one shot of "fucking power base" as the kiddies here call it. Was asleep a few hours later without the aid of benzos

Anywhoo, the "point" of all that drug nostalgia was to make the point clear enough for Spade to understand - I know and love stims and have done for a long time. If your heart isn't beating hard enough to wake the neighbours up then you clearly need another line

The effect that meph has (when snorted at least) is completely different to me. It's not just a mad strong heartbeat, pulse rate and blood pressure that would break the ECG machine and make it cry - that's all fun and games and comes with the territory. I find the heart stuff with meph quite (actually very) scary at times. One time I was within minutes of calling an ambulance cos that doesn't feel like overstimulation to me - it feels seriously toxic and I find it lingers for a long time afterwards. Being an idiot and unashamed and unrepentant drugpig, I still snort the occasional line. Rarely though - I'd happily go through a few grams in a sesh taken orally.

Sniffed, I wouldn't even go through 200mg in a day cos it feels deeply toxic - not quite as horrific as snorting M1 cos a line of meph only lasts a few minutes and is quite pleasant for those minutes. Also, the worst of the cardio-distress is over in less than an hour whereas snorting a gram of M1 in a night put me in bed for three days straight feeling like I'd been stabbed in both kidneys, given a damn good kicking and been lobotomised all at the same time. Difference is that after those three days there was no leftover nastiness - sniffing a fraction of that amount of meph causes recurring heart troubles of a type I've never known before. Not terrifying panic-drenched heart attack stuff, just strange lil quirks that were never there before.

I'm still on that fence that I mentioned some 34,906 words back. On the one hand it's become one of my all-time favorite combo drugs - and will probably continue like that unless something drastic changes. On the other hand, snorting it is something I almost wished I'd never done. I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind that it has done something to my heart that I may well regret sometime. Some things just ain't made to be sniffed and M1 and meph are near the top of that list for me with good ol' 2-C-T-7.

Condensed version for those beaten into submission by the above waffle, nostalgia trip and wild speculation - drop bombs and sniff something that doesn't feel like it's caused some kind of genuine physical (although very minor) damage to my heart. There really is something bad going on there - I'm pretty convinced of it through my exerience of it - and I have a feeling that some people are going to seriously regret The Summer of Meph one of these days.

All drugs (all everything drug or not) can cause damage to your body. With my lifestyle I know all about that side of things. I've probably snorted 1-2 grams of meph in total and from my subjective experience - it honestly feels like it's done more in 2g than 10 years of IV crack did. Besides, the high is just so much nicer bombed than sniffed that I really don't see the point.

And after all that, just to remind you that I am still in fine drugpig form - I put the last bit from the last order of meph I had on the scales today. Nowhere near enough for oral, would be enough for 3 or 4 lines, but just so happens to be around the apparent sweetspot for an IV dose. I'll get back to y'all on that one sometime

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

In short - meph....not to be sniffed at.

 

[Shambles]

If you subtract several mg of peevee and add several hours of sleep to a Shambles then that is exactly what was meant. I may have even said so somewhere amongst the rambles. Probably not though.

Do find it odd that there's such a massive difference between sniffing and swallowing though - just like M1. Like it's a different drug entirely - ie a decent one if you eat it or squirt it up yer jacksy instead of feeling like youve been poisoned if you sniff 'em.

IV approach still to be assessed - but maybe not today

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

^

I thought it was an excellent post Sham.

 

[The Kid]

Bonce. Haha, havent heard that word in years. Hahahaha.

It is a word that should be brought back into the public eye once more!