The Big & Dandy 2C-E thread (Reorganized)

[Delta-9-THC]

I think I know what you mean. I noticed than whenever I would close my eyes and drop into a train of thought the nausea would subside and I would feel some euphoria. Focusing on it probably makes it worse but it can be hard to ignore it. I usually smoke some good bud and that definitely helps a little. For my next trip I might even eat some cannabis treats on the come down. This should be pretty nice.

 

[nearjat]

25mg is my sweet spot, tried that dose for the first time last night. After some hours of chaos, fear, and confusion, my trip was absolutely beautiful. I strengthened a positive friendship, and I am also considering distancing myself from a long time childhood friend. My life in the past few months has been a trip of its own, and this just wrapped it up nicely.

The person I'm considering distancing myself from, literally would insult me various times throughout the trip for my strange speech and behavior. At one point I was almost in tears from confusion, I had no idea where we were and nobody would fucking tell me. He was laughing at me and teasing me about how I was over analyzing the situation, also insulting me deeper because he seems to think that my sober "thinker" personality type is arrogant and alienating. The sober driver was also being a dick to me, in pretty much identical ways. To top it all off, they all insisted on cranking top40 gangster rap with bass so high it drowned out the actual track. In all of my confusion I actually became convinced that:
1. The driver had crashed (actually parked) and that he had stepped outside to speak to his insurance company (his mom).
2. A fire of natural disaster like magnitude had broken out in my neighborhood, complete with smell of smoke, firetrucks, and roadblocks. That one was really fucking scary.

One other friend I was with was actually intelligent and shared some of my discomfort. We finally just told the guys to fuck right off and left the car, walking to the local park at night. I sat on top of a playground tower in the "full lotus" meditative position and from there things were amazing. The sky and trees blended into a painting-like moving sheet of mandalas, in three dimensions. The entire scene was occasionally splashed by non-existent colored light. My friend and I discussed everything, both of us unintentional speaking in poetic syntax and style. Then he put some music on from his iphone, quickly the visuals synced up with the music.

Later in the night, we met up with the other guys and discussed the night. My good friend and I said how beautiful everything in the park was and how cool our discussion was, the others looked at us funny and moaned about how confusing everything is when you're tripping, and how they constantly grasped for something normal.

The person I first spoke about STILL continued to talk shit about my nonsensical speech and personality in general, and I really think it's time I don't speak to him anymore. It's something I'd thought about long before but decided to just deal with our differences, but that kind of treatment to your supposed "best friend" is just evil.

I always talked about how 2C-E had no "substance" to it, but all I needed was the right dose, setting, and place in life.

 

[AChemicalLife]

At one point I dosed 2C-E five times in eight days. The effects remained, but visuals weakened. None of the other effects lost intensity.

I agree with this. I have dosed 4 times in a week with almost no reduction of effects, besides weaker visuals. The dosage did not need to be increased.

 

[Xorkoth]

Huh... not my experience. For me it seems almost impossible to have strong effects again within a week of using 2C-E... actually this is true with all 2C-Xs for me. I can certainly get effects, fun effects, but not a real trip like the original time.

 

[SpiralOut]

Honestly? I've never used any RC more than once a week. And I usually try to keep my trips spaced out about a month in between.

Never gonna let that feeling diminish, my friends!

In regards to nearjat's post. . .definitely set and setting my friend. I would have a really hard time hanging with people who weren't on the same wavelength as me, so to speak. Most of my trips involve no travel whatsoever and if I am out and about I always have a sober friend around to escort me and whomever else is tripping.

That being said, the worst trip I ever had was by myself in my house which is my favorite/most comfortable place to trip. I made an impulsive decision, said fuck it, and decided to trip on a mega dose a week or so after splitting up with a chick I'd been seeing for 5+ years. Yeah, much throwing up, sweats, evil thoughts, misery, and one of the deepest and darkest spirals I've ever been down. Came out the other side a better person I believe, but just a nasty nasty experience because I wasn't prepared to trip and in the right state of mind.

 

[TheAppleCore]

Can I dissolve 10 mg 2C-E in a mil of vodka? Or is that level of saturation not possible?

 

[Shambles]

I can dissolve that much (and probably a lot more if I chose to) in water so I presume it would also dissolve into that volume of voddy

 

[Xorkoth]

I think someone here once said they got 50mg of 2C-E to dissolve in either water or alcohol with some heat... so yes, 10mg is certainly possible, quite easily.

 

[Kebil]

I took a high dose of 2C-E just this last weekend, and I was definitely impressed, actually, blown away would be a more descriptive term. I have a rather hard head, probably from a decade of abusing hard drugs, as well as long term psychiatric medication, and only got a low level response from 25 mg, so I doubled the dose after an hour.

I immediately began to feel like I should have just waited a bit longer, and at one point started to feel like it was going to be to much for my poor fried brain to handle, but I managed to talk myself through the rough parts and was richly rewarded.

For the first hour of my peak, I had intense visuals of Mayan/Incan/Aztec type iconography. I lay in my bed, starting at the ceiling, watching a dragon writhing across the ceiling, smoke spewing out of its nostrils. Then, a corner of my room began to be inhabited by a whirlwind of lights and smoke, an entity inside trying to make contact. At first I felt a foreboding presence, but then realized that the reason it gave me this negative emotion was because I was trying to fight the psychedelic "process". With that knowledge in mind, I felt freed to just enjoy the experience and see what I could learn.

I am mostly interested in psychedelics at this point in my life as a psychotherapeutic tool, and I found 2C-E to be extremely useful in this regard. It definitely did not produce any of the euphoric or empathogenic responses in me that psilocybin or psilacetin did, which was neither good nor bad, it just was. This was the first phenethylamine hallucinogen I have ever taken, and I was not disappointed. It was for sure a different head space than any of the tryptamines I have taken, but again, that is not good nor bad, just different.

As others have stated, this is not "beginners" material, nor is it something to be taken overly lightly as it is a very powerful substance, but it is one I am glad to have experienced, and one that I will still more in the future. I just hope that it remains non-scheduled in my home country (Canada) in the future, although I have heard rumblings about scheduling many of the RC's

 

[Xorkoth]

Well no wonder you were blown away... you took 25mg and got a low-level response, after only an hour! 2C-E takes 3-4 hours to peak... it doesn't even really swing in until hour 2. By one hour it's just barely started.

Glad it turned out okay. Fortunately 2C-E is rather safe physically.

 

[Bare_head]

unfortunately never had the pleasure of trying 2C-E. though what i would do for it.

Xorkoth, what would you say 2C-E is most like in terms of bodyfeel and trip generally? I really curious if its anything like 2C-I/2C-T-7.. i know you loved amt just like myself and i am guessing i would love this chem

 

[nearjat]

For me, the beginning of the trip has a really gross bodyload, but after that I get a weird, but not unpleasant, body buzz and enhanced tactile sensations. Me, along with most of my friends, get cold very easily throughout the entire trip.

The gross part of the bodyload, on higher doses, included:
The illusion that I am excreting waste in small amounts, even though I'm not at all.

Really bad nausea, only vomited once. After that I felt great.

Sweating, cold feet.

Clamminess.

 

[Shambles]

Body feel was very similar to MDMA for me. Far less speedy than 2C-I and much rounder and warmer - friendlier in general and less spiky. Dunno about 2C-T-7, but somewhat reminiscent of 2C-T-2, for me. Not a million miles away from AMT either in fact, only less speedy

This is from relatively low nasal and rectal doses though. I suspect oral dosing produces more nausea and bodyload.

 

[Xorkoth]

I find the bodyload to be quite unique. It can be really good and really weird and alien. I find it depends on the set and setting, really. Generally, it has a bit of an intense presence in the body. 2C-I and 2C-T-7 feel euphoric and light generally, but 2C-E is not the same way. 2C-E is a totally different animal than the other two.... it's a much more serious psychedelic. I love it though. 2C-E has been almost everything to me at one point or another... euphoric, scary, uncomfortable, orgasmically pleasant...

 

[raellear]

Xorkoth: Totally agree with you. There is no certain way to describe the 2CE-effects... it's just so unpredictable, a true psychedellic drug just like LSD/cacti/psilocybin.
I'm planning to do a combination of 2CE and highdose DXM. I tried them both together in quantities like 13mg 2CE/480mg DXM and did not experience any bad reaction. DXM-dissociation was pushed away a little bit by the 2CE to be hones...
I was thinking about 15mg 2CE and 900-1100mg of DXM. Does anybody know if that is still 'safe'? Anybody know if there where bad reactions when combining these drugs in higher amounts?

 

[jimmyblaze1]

The motions of my visuals seemed to be.. violent? Or industrial. If that makes any sense.
I would say the trip had a very heavy body buzz, which I found to be seriously uncomfortable. It does get lighter as the trip goes on.

I know EXACTLY what you mean about the visuals seeming violent/industrial - to me they flowed like crazy, rounded all over BUT they were thrown upon me very VERY hectically -they didnt flow like clouds do...they rushed like a swarm of angry bees :D

As far as body load goes, I find that after a certain point I can control it and it becomes a great part of the trip.

Put on some good music and instead of fighting it let it run amok and then integrate it into the rest of your trip.

After trying it several times, I've found I can get my body buzzing to fit in time with the music I'm playing. Feels magnificent and heightens the trip for me.

YEAAAAH!!! The body load - I'd not call it a load...a BUZZ would be my description too - it was amazing, and came in waves that pulsed with teh sound of my computer whirring away ( I was tripping too hard to put on any music..silly me) - orgasms, rushes of wooshing energy, hugs, and massages all rolled into one ball of seeping chaos is how I'd descrive the body buzz..

Kerbil - the way you describe your trip sounds exactly like mine...almost EXACTLY...can't wait to try this again..been on a psychedelic detox for a few months after going abit mad on 2C-B for 2 weeks...silly me...

 

[spacecadet420]

I have to say 2c-e was one of the most intense drugs ive ever taken. My first experience with this drug was the most experience of my life. The person who gave it to me did not exactly dose out exact amounts. He gave me one full capsule, which was MOORE than enough to begin with. My other friend did not finish hers n dumped the remaining bit into my water I was drinking. This may have been a mistake. At first I felt as if I was almost rolling. Everything was light and bright and colorful, similar feelings to mdma. I distinctly remember walking down the road and a car drove by and it seemed as if it almost "stole me soul". I As the car passed the colors from the street lights seemed to blur an follow the car and took my entire body or soul with it. Ive never experienced that before. After the rolling feeling seemed to go away i then felt like i was in on a heavy dose of mushrooms. this feeling lasted maybe another 2 hours. I remember listening to the dead live at winterland and it was great music at the time. I was staring at a grateful dead poster with the grimm reaper sitting under a tree. I had an extreme hallucination where i was actually in the poster and the grimm reaper actually chased me. He got in my face and pointed directly at me. His eyes were blue, I remember that much. It was the most intense hallucination Ive ever had. I remember seeing dark shadowed entitys, one of a little kid and one was almost a phantom shape. I remember at the end of the trip I, as well as everyone else who took this drug, felt like we were going to die. I literally saw myself laying on the couch and remember thinking i was dying and had the urge to call everyone I knew to tell them loved them. This was way to heavy of a dose. I have tried it since in controlled doses. 10-20 mg's seemed to be the comfortable dose for me. It does not take much to get off. But these control doses seemed to be very pleasurable. Very light feeling, talkative, trials, minor halluciations and was at a show so all i wanted to do is dance. This time around my experiences were much better. This can be a great drug and very introspective when taken responsibly and in the proper doses. As stated earlier this drug is not to be taken lightly but when taken responsibly in the right setting will be one the best experiences to happen to you

 

[spacecadet420]

also, I meant to ask has anyone had similar experiences to this? especially the feeling that death is near or being able to actually see yourself in a third person point of view?

 

[Xorkoth]

A FULL capsule? How big was the capsule? A full capsule could be hundreds of milligrams... I have a capsule I was storing 2C-E in that had 500mg in it when it was full!

 

[Ohheyitsme]

also, I meant to ask has anyone had similar experiences to this? especially the feeling that death is near or being able to actually see yourself in a third person point of view?

First time I took 2c-e I took a large dose by eye and had something like this where I was stood over the sink and could see a chainsaw going into the back of my head and blood literally pouring all into the sink turning the water all bright red and putting my head under the tap and all the water was washing into the back of my head washing out blood.

Then I went down the plughole with the water and just appeared in another room, crazy drug .