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GBL Megathread - 2nd dose

^ I used gear for a couple of years recreationally - ie not addicted - then another ten when I was definitely addicted. It can take a while to show teeth but it gets most people who use it sooner or later.

Pharm grade heroin is very safe, street smack less so cos it's cut with some nasty stuff sometimes and you don't know how pure a batch is till you've tried it. If you're ill then you'll tend to shoot first and worry about purity later :\

I wouldn't recommend heroin if you find G moreish ;)
 
hoho no worries Shambles mate, I wouldn't dare touch street H and I hate needles.

Treacle, what makes you think Guice is very safe? I'd be interested in seeing some studies if there are any.
 
GHB is one of the safest chemicals you can take. I can't be bothered digging anything out, but just have a Google. It is completely non-toxic, and occurs naturally in the body.
 
Woo hoo I have a bottle of guicey coming in the post today :D

It has been exactly 3 weeks since I last touched a drop. I hope to god the break did something.
 
Shambles said:
^ I used gear for a couple of years recreationally - ie not addicted - then another ten when I was definitely addicted. It can take a while to show teeth but it gets most people who use it sooner or later.

Pharm grade heroin is very safe, street smack less so cos it's cut with some nasty stuff sometimes and you don't know how pure a batch is till you've tried it. If you're ill then you'll tend to shoot first and worry about purity later :\

I wouldn't recommend heroin if you find G moreish ;)
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Always wondered how it works like that, how does it creep up on you as such? Because after a couple of years you'd think you'd have quite good will power with it wouldn't you?

Sorry, don't mean to de-rail the thread :|..
 
Just dropped 1.75ml guys on a completely empty stomach; haven't eaten anything since last night's tea.

It has been two minutes. Ho ho I can't wait to peak :D

How much do you all usually take, and with how much liquid?

I put the amount in a little of undiluted Robinson's orange. Tastes so bad, but I heard less liquid means the guice can be metabolised quicker.

I don't have any Codeine to help me if I feel shit after this... three weeks better have been long enough :p
 
I usually 'need' about 2ml. I have basically got used to the taste now so having it in a pint of water is usually fine.
 
Well, it seems that the "magic" hadn't returned as well as I'd hoped - but the negative side effects aren't as bad.

I took 1.75ml on a completely empty stomach and needed more for a sufficient high, so I took another 1ml about 40 minutes afterwards. After a while of enjoying the high, I fell asleep at my computer haha. It always happens. I suddenly wake up and think "shit! How long have I been unconscious?" :D

Now I'm stuffing my face :)

Anyone know why I need more than I originally started with? I need about 2ml now, but I remember when I used to only need 1.5ml-1.75ml to be rolling.
 
Shambles said:
Crept up on me cos withdrawals seem so easy the first few times so it's easy to get slack and complacent. There's also no such thing as willpower with heroin once you get past a certain point - going without is simply not an option :|
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Ah right, I get you. Really does make me sometimes consider stopping whilst I still can, but it's too awesome... for now :|.
 
I got my first bottle of gbl (125ml) on Monday got a wee bit carried away finished it off by 11pm today took 3 days off work on the sick (oops). my wife has also fell out with me big time over my binge and we are not on speaking terms:o This is seriously nice stuff and mixs nice with soap bar and mdma. feeling very rough now though kind of like a mild H withdrawal, light sweats, fluctuation in body temp, chills and i cant sleep a wink...

I'm drinking some juice now and i want it to smell of almonds & turps and taste like brake fluid. I regret using about 10ml of it to clean the alloys on my car even though the results were very impressive.

Can see how this stuff can be addictive, i don't think i'll purchase any more for a good while as i don't think i'll not be able to abuse it without bad things happening. It'll will probably go into my couple of times a year gear, like dancing with mr brownstone and crack.

thank fuck for soap bar%)
 
Messed up my withdrawals...lorazepam/codiene was going ok but then started on the gin and woke up at some point having knocked over various things and finding that I'd eaten 35mgs olanzapine....when I never take more than 10mg.Had to cancel the next day and slept for most of it.Thursday had an impotant appointment in town so attended looking ill,which was useful as it was part of determining if I still qualify for Incapacity benefit.:\
Sat around drinking beer slowly and then took various sleep aids,Today feel incredibly depressed and tired:|
Went and ordered 250ml:| in the hope that this time I can do a proper reducing dose.Also it means no money for drinking.I've found it far better to do a withdrawal on Saturdays as I don't have to do anything before 2pm on Sundays.Whereas this time I stopped on Tuesday and was expected to do stuff at 11 on Wednesday.Of course I had tried to come off it on Saturday before....and failed.I'm going to make a Drs appointment for next Friday and hopefully be able to get what I need to come of it properly.If I fuck this up I really am never buying larger than 125ml again.
 
brokenbrain said:
Messed up my withdrawals...lorazepam/codiene was going ok but then started on the gin and woke up at some point having knocked over various things and finding that I'd eaten 35mgs olanzapine....when I never take more than 10mg.Had to cancel the next day and slept for most of it.Thursday had an impotant appointment in town so attended looking ill,which was useful as it was part of determining if I still qualify for Incapacity benefit.:\
Sat around drinking beer slowly and then took various sleep aids,Today feel incredibly depressed and tired:|
Went and ordered 250ml:| in the hope that this time I can do a proper reducing dose.Also it means no money for drinking.I've found it far better to do a withdrawal on Saturdays as I don't have to do anything before 2pm on Sundays.Whereas this time I stopped on Tuesday and was expected to do stuff at 11 on Wednesday.Of course I had tried to come off it on Saturday before....and failed.I'm going to make a Drs appointment for next Friday and hopefully be able to get what I need to come of it properly.If I fuck this up I really am never buying larger than 125ml again.
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If you stopped on tuesday and it's now friday then i suspect as bad as you feel now you'll just make things worse again if you start back on the gbl.

It's easy for me to say things like this but i would suggest you take your current situation as the new starting point and see if you can stay of the guice from here on in. It should only get easier now you have a 3 day head start.

If you really can't stay off the stuff and you really want to maybe you can talk to your doctor about being temporarily hospitalised whilst you go through the withdrawls? Not sure how obliging they are with such things but it does sound like you've got it bad.
 
No.I normally start withdrawals on a Saturday,use whatever comes to hand to get through the first 24 hours,then take 5mg olanzapine Sunday and Monday nights and stop that because I start feeling awful from more than 3 days on it.
Its gone wrong this time because I did it on a Tuesday.Theres no way currently that I can deal with being around my dad sober.Had to turn up drunk anytime I went there in 2002 - 03.Then severed all contact until finally I fond various other products that helped me more than alcohol.
I am not doing an inpatient detox as that would involve having to tell people,and no way can I do that.GBL is my secret addiction,my Dr knows (although I serverly downplay the amounts and times its used for).I am on the books of the substance misuse service,but they have been fuck all use so far.I really have to get something sorted out there,counselling was promised and all sorts,yet they let me slip through the net after my keyworker got a new job,also the only drugs they really know how to deal with are heroin and alcohol..although the whole service is blatantly mainly for people on probation who have zero interest in coming off whatever drug,but are sent there as part of their probation..
The reason I have felt awful since Wednesday morning is because of taking 7 x 5mg olanzapine (which I have no recollection of doing) and how it has removed all my serotonin as well as dopamine and I feel like a total zombie.Plus I couldn't eat on Tues/Wed/most of Thurs.
I was going to come off it last Saturday but fucked that up.Was also going to buy a g of methylone and take that today and start back on the guice sometime between tonight and tomorrow morning.Decided that was a terrible idea:|250ml GBL costs quite a bit less than 125ml plus a g of methylone.
I'm going to make a Drs appointment hopefully for next Friday to get enough stuff to come off it.
Yes I'm a big fucking mess but apart from cancelling a few things due to being in a zombified state I haven't bothered anyone else.And I can't stay off it permanently,the last 2 times I've come off it I've gone for 14 - 16 days without...but end up turning back into the total drunk that I am.
I've got some oral syringes now and am going to work out a reducing dose scheme.Not straight away of course....I'll have a weeks fun and then reduce and get the other meds in.
At no point would I say "never again"..the stuff has too many positive effects on me and my life.
I'll keep doing the 1 or 2 weeks on followed by 2 weeks off programme until its made illegal and then I'll no doubt after a month start searching for another way to get GHB into my system.
 
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seriously I cant understand how many peeps have got hooked oh GBL, I take most nights purely to get a good nights sleep, I have no desire to take in the daytime as it's not really a high feeling, more a drunk feel. I sometimes enjoy taking some while in out in bars and clubs mainly when I'm driving.
 
If you find it that hard to visit your father whilst going through withdrawl wouldn't not visiting your father for a little while be a better option than cutting short your attempts to quit just so you can go and see him?

I wouldn't suggest rushing a detox but i don't think your current regime of taking certain amounts on certain days seems to be helping you much. I would imagine that constantly coming on and off a substance like GBL is going to fuck you up physically and mentally even more than either a regular but controlled addiction would or just quitting and going through the full on withdrawls would, which is why i suggest sticking with where you are rather than allowing yourself to backslide then try again.

And i think you were sensible not to take methylone. I wouldn't want to take anything with any kind of stimulation when i was going through any kind of withdrawl; it'll make it worse either at the time or during the comedown.
 
sundayraver said:
seriously I cant understand how many peeps have got hooked oh GBL, I take most nights purely to get a good nights sleep, I have no desire to take in the daytime as it's not really a high feeling, more a drunk feel. I sometimes enjoy taking some while in out in bars and clubs mainly when I'm driving.
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I pretty much thought that about alcohol til I realised I was drinking sixteen+ cans a day :\
 
sundayraver said:
when I'm driving.
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That is terrible, for a start.

BB: As I have now found, one day of phenibut and codeine is enough to get you through day one of G WDs without even realising it, and the rest is uphill from there. You need to stop switching back to the booze, afterwards. You need to set yourself realistic targets for G use. Quitting everything all at once is a pointless idea. It won't happen. You need realistic goals. Try buying 50ml bottles of G, instead of 125mls. You get your high, and it's gone after two days, then you can spend a day recovering and get on with life. Just a few words of advice from someone with far too much experience with G.
 
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