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MDPV Megathread 2 - Moderate Dosing Prevents Vitiation

I've seen at close hand how that one goes... in a club once, some drunken idiot thought it would be exceedingly funny to grab her chest while on the dance floor. After a punch that downed him in one followed by a pretty forceful kick to the goolies, I bet he regretted it for some time afterwards. Hence my never being tempted to get more from under the mattress, regardless of any other factors!
 
Man this white stuff is shit :( need about four times as much of it too.

Its like kinda half way towards the beige stuff. Speedy, Alert, and Stimulating, but completely devoid of the potent Aphrodisiac and Euphoric qualities of the beige.

I'm actually seriously going to get into chemistry and testing stuff now. Cant bear to keep using stuff I dont have a clue what it is. Those EZ tests look like a start.

So, without someone over-running me with complex algorithmic bio-chemical differential inverse equations and what not, what would one need to test if MDPV is really MDPV? And how would you test for the main suspected impurities in MDPV batches? Dont know if any EZ test kits could do this or not. Chemistry really aint my forte.
 
^ It involves potassium permangante, apparently. Not chemically minded myself, but sure I remember that one from chemistry sets... may have to invest in one :D

fastandbulbous said:
Well the white stuff I was given a bit of wasn't peevee as I dropped a little bit into a hot solution of potassium permanganate and there was no safrole like smell (any simple compound with a 3,4-methylenedioxybenzyl group in it is oxidized to piperonal - 3,4-methylenedioxybenzaldehyde - which has a distinct, recxognizable smell even at tiny air concentrations) - methylone, peevee, MDMA etc all produce the smell if added to hot permanganate soln, but the white stuff didn't ergo it's not peevee. As to it's full identity though, best to find someone with access to a GCMS or similar
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That method unfortunately only confirms that the white stuff isn't MDPV. The question that everyone is asking -"what is the white stuff"? - remains unsolved.
 
what would one need to test if MDPV is really MDPV? And how would you test for the main suspected impurities in MDPV batches? Dont know if any EZ test kits could do this or not.
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Not unless they've started doing a portable GCMS testing kit! It can be done by chemical analysis means, but it's horribly complicated as it involves loasds of tests that just eliminate certain groups/drugs, but very few that are specific positive tests for an individual chemical
 
Shambles said:
Tryp: Best to try to keep that indulgence reasonably controlled - it can get out of hand without you realising it without a bit of care and you can end up dosing 24/7 for days. Stim psychosis a-go-go 8o
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In my experience, low to moderate dosing over long periods more brings on sleep deprivation psychosis, which really isn't all that bad. It's high dosing in a short period that causes everyone problems.

I've been around PV for a long time at this point, seen incredibly stupid usages of it, and am amazed at how benign it is, considering. The worst I've heard of is massive dosing over short periods, resulting in dopamine psychosis. A very benign outcome, all things considered, and well-deserved too when people are that idiotic IMO.

And of course PV's famous "loss of control" which isn't fun but is actually pretty benign too, aside from the hit to people's egos.

That method unfortunately only confirms that the white stuff isn't MDPV.
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Ummm... the fact of it being white has nothing to do with it 8) The question is 'which' white stuff, and it seems here the discussion is useless since we can't talk about sources. I'm guessing tho that the quality of synth has a lot to do with whitish-tan stuff coming from recent well known U.K. source, and that the aforementioned really is MDPV.

-- The artist formerly known as MDPVagrant (heya F&B, been a long time... how goes it?)
 
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Dedbeet said:
In my experience, low to moderate dosing over long periods more brings on sleep deprivation psychosis, which really isn't all that bad. It's high dosing in a short period that causes everyone problems.
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True, true. Short periods of heavy use can definitely send one on a wonky one. Sleep deprivation (and most likely not eating properly either) is messy enough though. If you haven't slept for a week then you may not be quite in need of sectioning but it can still get a bit messy, I find 8o;):D
 
Shambles said:
True, true. Short periods of heavy use can definitely send one on a wonky one. Sleep deprivation (and most likely not eating properly either) is messy enough though. If you haven't slept for a week then you may not be quite in need of sectioning but it can still get a bit messy, I find 8o;):D
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Never made it beyond 4-5 days with MDPV... I find it's just not stimulating enough to beat sleep deprivation when it starts getting serious, so even that aspect is self-limiting... people are likely to just go to sleep before things get really bad.

Now desoxypipradrol, that's an utterly different matter altogether... if it keeps getting more popular, someone's finally gonna answer the age-old question whether lack of sleep can kill us or not. Think I heard someone mention being awake for a month and a half on the stuff... if it were anything but desoxypipradrol I wouldn't believe it, but I do.
 
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I'd still like to give it a go. At least once. As long as I had enough time to recuperate from staying up for fucking ages.

Bad experiences?
 
whoremoaning said:
I'd still like to give it a go. At least once. As long as I had enough time to recuperate from staying up for fucking ages.

Bad experiences?
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As I can't even put it into words, I'm not gonna try :|. Admittedly, much of it was my own fault given the way I used it. If you have any tendency whatsoever to binge, don't get near desoxypipradrol. If you start with an extreme respect for it and have zero proclivity to over-use, the experience could be OK.
 
Arrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... :!

I hereby retract what I said on the 'white' MDPV from an ostensibly well-known UK chem source, a small amt. of which I recently acquired for research purposes.... if it's MDPV, it's crap. Definitely has a stimulant effect, somewhat moreish like MDPV, but from there the resemblances seem to go downhill.

Seems to require a higher dose that usual for decent effects (close to "panicky" levels, which is not fun) and larger amounts too. Pretty well crap sex-wise (so far anyway, as per "one orgasm the last 14 hours straight of use"). Causes somewhat dilated pupils and a more rapid heartrate than I remember. Not much euphoria. Basically just sucks overall compared to (memories of) tan MDPV.

I could be wrong and this is MDPV, and I'm reacting to it differently than usual -- it's been over a year since I last used it and am on different prescribed meds (Effexor XR, which shouldn't interfere). Actually, I won't claim that it *isn't* MDPV, only that it seems like 30% to 50% "there" compared to decent MDPV experiences I remember. It's possible (tho not likely) it's awesome shit & I just need to get familiarized again with MDPV's dosing/frequency peculiarities.

Whatever it is is fine for what it is... acceptable, OK, fair, decent, workable, so-so, better than nothing, not bad, etc... just not very good either. You'll sit there as usual & attentively/repeatedly do nothing worthwhile (and forget you're doing it for hours). You'll still get stiff/sore & anxious, forget to eat/sh*t/piss (& have trouble going when ya do), sweat will still run into your eyes & burn like f*ck, your pits/privates will still smell like hell, your neck and lower back will still ache... all those "goodies" ya get from stims are available from this stuff 8( :!. Enjoy... Pssssssshhhhhhhhht.

P.S. seems there IS a pyrrolidine odor about the stuff at times, so it probably contains MDPV... that's all I can say.
 
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Shambles said:
That's what I found with the white variety, Dedbeet. Similar, but with more of the downsides and less off the upsides.
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At this point I'm not liking it enough to order again anytime soon. Got .5g around (hell, at the rate this stuff goes it may be down to .3 - .35 in 14 hours, no tolerance) and when it's gone I'm likely done with this vendor & probably with MDPV too.

IMO/IME (so far) this stuff is a waste of time sexually speaking, which is 90% of the reason I ever liked MDPV, and not much euphoria to speak of either... but it does have most of the downsides of the 'old' MDPV, including more-ishness and the tendency (mine anyway) to sit there and space-out for hours, wasting time & redosing til I realize I've been sitting there like a zombie the past 5 or 10 hours doing crap like correcting posts over and over til they look perfect, setting brightness /contrast /saturation "exactly right" in pics I don't even keep, adding/deleting + re-adding video captions, etc... all deeply focused, indepth and absolutely *pointness* activity) -- without even being aware of it! Snffffffff, goaccckkkkk..... *SPIT*. Ugghh :|.

P.S. will probably moderate /leave alone the rest too, instead of using it steadily... stuff *sux* as an ongoing high without much sexual effects. No fun, just wasted time & a sore neck/back. I paid *money* for this... ? 8o :|
 
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Same here again, Dedbeet. Lots of staring into space whilst doing bugger all of use or interest and lots of aches and pains as a result. Nowhere near the amount of euphoria I'd expect from peevee and no real effect at all in the trouser department. It's okayish as a generic stimulant I suppose - had its moments. Definitely doesn't have "the magic" though :\
 
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