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MDPV Megathread 2 - Moderate Dosing Prevents Vitiation

Right, so I have a choice of getting the 'white and fluffy MDPV' stuff available online from a certain UK vendor, or getting the same tan color stuff that I got before from a european vendor.

What have people here used? And which would you recommend I get? I found the tan stuff did the job, but am curious if the white stuff is better. White would imply purer than tan color, but thats not exactly the most scientific method of determining purity for sure :)

Sucks we cant discuss sources so we all know where the good quality stuff is and what to avoid. This stuff is still about as legal as pineapples so I cant see why we cant discuss sources for stuff like this. But rules are rules.
 
I had some of the white variety recently and it feels very similar to the beige variety in many ways, but I'm pretty sure it's not the same stuff. Has more of a chemical taste, slightly speedier maybe, shorter-acting (needed a redose an hour or so after initial dose which I never do on the beige) and had more of a fiendish edge for me. Also didn't smell of spunk at all unless heated.

The subjective feeling is certainly similar enough that it's hard to be positive, but definitely not the quite same substance as the beige variety in my book. I'd take a very wild and deeply uneducated guess at it being something closely related, but it's not the peevee I know and love. Similar, but not the same. Beige is best.
 
Tis a shame, got myself some of the white stuff, not that keen on ingesting unknown substances :|

Will keep an eye out for the beige stuff whenever I can get it and see if I can notice the difference.

Currently on the white :D
 
fastandbulbous said:
Well the white stuff I was given a bit of wasn't peevee as I dropped a little bit into a hot solution of potassium permanganate and there was no safrole like smell (any simple compound with a 3,4-methylenedioxybenzyl group in it is oxidized to piperonal - 3,4-methylenedioxybenzaldehyde - which has a distinct, recxognizable smell even at tiny air concentrations) - methylone, peevee, MDMA etc all produce the smell if added to hot permanganate soln, but the white stuff didn't ergo it's not peevee. As to it's full identity though, best to find someone with access to a GCMS or similar
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Have you tested the tan/beige color stuff? Did that turn out to actually be MDPV?
 
It is definitely odd. I've only seen the white stuff online and it's so near and yet so far. Rougher round the edges and just not quite as nice in general. Much like the brown PV in many ways, but with much more emphasis on the less enjoyable aspects. I suspect that a fair few folk who decided that PV was shit had the white version as it's definitely an inferior product in my view.

I'd say to go for the beige if a choice is available. Would love to know what the white stuff is because it's not unpleasant as such, just not a patch on the beige and not quite right somehow. Maybe a bodged synth that's almost there but not quite? Or a closely related substance with similar effect? Is the problem with buying RCs online I suppose - you kinda have to take the vendor's word that it is what they say it is which is a bit of a concern :\

White does the job for sure - believe there may be some evidence for its effectiveness around the place recentlt - but the beige feels much smoother and generally more pleasing to me.
 
I'm now on an SSRI (citalopram) prescribed by my doc for depression and anxiety (which has been an ongoing issue for months now, which he finally thought SSRI's might help). So, any pharmacologists about (fastandbulbous!) would it be advisable to not use my occascional 2mg nootropic dose of MDPV to get me through my day at uni? Or would there be no reaction at all between MDPV's effects and an SSRI? I'm presuming that excessive MDPV binging should be approached with care while on an SSRI, though they do work on completely separate brain areas, so I'm not so sure.

Also, will there be any contraindictions between my SSRI and the usual MDPV and GBL/GHB combo?

Any advise appreciated :)

One thing for sure is I'm not touching any serotogenic drugs for a while now. My days of MDMA, mephedrone, methylone and butylone are over :(
 
I'm on the white stuff tonight and its nothing like the tan colored stuff. Speedy and alert for sure with a long duration, but with no euphoria and aphrodisiac qualities like my last tan stuff. The tan stuff produced an uneasy felling/anxiety when too much was consumed, which when combatted with GHB to calm my CNS left the most desirable psychedelic induced state I've ever reached. Was able to maintain this state for about two weeks on a near daily basis. Seems like a dream now. Ahhh. This white stuff does not produce anxiety in high amounts (just snorted like 12mg) but feels much speedier.

Is pretty nice stuff tho :D Defo will work as a nootropic in small amounts. But NOTHING like the tan stuff.

Would love it for someone to identify both batches and tell me what the chemical difference is and why the tan stuff is so much nicer, but personally lack the knowledge to even attempt identifying either. I'm presuming that the tan stuff is real MDPV, and judging from fastandbulbous's above posted chemical analysis of the white stuff its something very similar, though not genuine MDPV.

Would love to know for sure what they both are though. Being a guineua pig is always fun. But from a totally non scientific subjective point of view, MDPV feels incrdeibly non toxic with no obvious negative effects (probably due to the low dosage needed)
 
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MDPV - I on;ly just heard of this a few weeks ago...was called MDPK and I argued there was no such thing lol...

Anyways I've heard this shit is like mdma & cocaine's love child...my friend had some - the tinest amount, and said it was really amazing...called "Sonic" in a few places...very interested to try it...know where I can get it...but not spending any money on drugs at teh mo...detox :D
 
jimmyblaze1 said:
Anyways I've heard this shit is like mdma & cocaine's love child...
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Don't believe everything you hear ;)

Unless you're IVing it when truly magical things happen 8o

I thought shooting crack was a rush. Not even close. IV PV wipes the floor with any stim I've ever tried. Other MOA are far more reasonable, less head-mashing, and generally more productive though :D

It's a bit like both (just about) but not really like either. Much more subtle... as long as you don't go overboard on the dosing. Or inject it. Or even smoke it, for that matter. Get the brown variety if you have the option. The white one just isn't as nice :)
 
Anyone tried smoking the this stuff?

Got just 5mg left and so was contemplating putting it in the ash of my bong and laying some weed ontop, and get the weed to slowly burn tontop, vaporizing the MDPV below in the ash.

Anyone treid anything similar? In waht doses?
 
I've smoked it a bit, Phillop. Probably around 5mg usually - probably more with tolerance. It's more euphoric, shorter-acting and more fiendy than sniffing. Easy to go through a lot in a short amount of time... but if it's your last 5mg that's not really a concern, I suppose.
 
I heard you weren't meant to smoke the stuff as one the impurities in it (begins with a p - can't remember the exact name) is very harmful to lung tissue.

A mate of mine got a bit of the white stuff. I desperately want to try it but I'm wary because I don't know what it is. Surely a few mgs of the stuff couldn't do much damage could it?:)
 
I got through more than a few mgs of the white stuff and am still alive, Tryp. Not sure what it is but it's apparently not fatal... at least in the short term ;)

The impurity was pyrrolidine (I think) and was only in certain batches - white variety, I believe - but was a while back. Not sure if that's the case with more recent batches, but smoking unknown chemicals is probably not such a great idea. The brown variety is fine, but it's very easy to massively overdo it if you smoke it. Very easy indeed :|
 
The impurity is pyrrolidine (it's used in the synthesis) and it's the tan/light brown stuff that contains it at anything up to a few percent impurity. Pyrrolidine is actually what gives the tan peevee a fragrance resembling seminal fluid (!) and it's best not to smoke it as it'll not do your lungs any favours at all (it's the smoking process itself that makes it dodgy as pyrrolidine is found naturally in carrots) - in fact any highly basic amine isn't a clever thing to vapourize; the more severe (ie alkaline) the compound, the more it'll hurt/do damage (probably why there's no great group of users who smoke ketamine). I know people smoke freebase cocaine, which is reasonably alkaline, but when it comes to smoking stimulants, common sense & self preservation are the first two casualties (much as will happen if you smoke peevee)

IV PV wipes the floor with any stim I've ever tried. Other MOA are far more reasonable, less head-mashing, and generally more productive though
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The IM route is pretty spectacular as well, so much so that I don't even want to contemplate just how compulsive IV use would be. With IM, expect a 10-15 minute rush - obviously less intense than from IV admin. - during which I've been more than tempted, several times, to quote Dennis Hopper's character, Frank Booth, from the film Blue Velvet, namely,"I'll fuck anything that moves!" shouted with generous helpings of paranoid megalomania =D
 
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Thanks for clearing that up, Bulbous One. Chemistry really is never by best subject :D

Tryp: Best to try to keep that indulgence reasonably controlled - it can get out of hand without you realising it without a bit of care and you can end up dosing 24/7 for days. Stim psychosis a-go-go 8o

F&B: I actually found it not to be all that compulsive IV, oddly enough. The beige variety was insanely intense at tiny doses and the rush seemed to keep on a-rushing for a long old time. May have just lost track though ;)

The white variety didn't have much of a rush at all IV. Came on slow and steady and was much more like shooting low-quality speed than the brown version which was more like shooting high-strength coke.

Personally, I'd recommend sticking to sniffing (or probably eating but not tried that yet) for peevee. Much smoother and easier to not go silly that way :)
 
I've found that just about every route ends up with compulsive dosing with peevee to some degree. Best to get out the absolute maximum you intend to consume, then put the rest somewhere that access will be difficult/unwise for the next 12 hours (like under the mattress just before mrs f&b goes to bed. No way would the desire to redose counteract the deterrent effect of an angry woman woken up before she had to for work!), otherwise you will be into the rest of it like a terrier down a rabbit hole once the first bit is gone =D
 
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