There’s no escaping the fact that piperazines do work – the problem is pleasure is such an individual thing and its hard to say that "they" didn’t enjoy them but you can only say I don’t like them. I’ve experiments with a few of the Pips, (bzp, tmfpp, Meopp, pfpp, mcpp). Depending on the mix and dose of them they seem to mimic different things - Mushrooms, speed, MD.., even Ket) but all come with a dirty and heavy body load and all have some nasty side effects.
The bad press is really down to the chemists making the pills – they have no idea what they have or what the dose should be so usually put too much into the pills. This added with the fact that 99% of the piperzine pills sold are sold to people looking for and paying for an MDMA high. Its only after they have ingested and the (for some) nightmare effects start that they know they have been conned, yeah the ride can be enjoyable but the side effects can be horrendous (Sickness, paranoia, bad heads, unable to sleep, sweating, uncontrollable twitching, not being able to get comfortable and feeling trapped in your own body) – Now if the person has been drinking before hand or during then these bad experiences can be magnified.
I have to add that a lot of the shop bought pills are better than the street bought “fake” E’s - they have a measured dose of the active ingredients, no dirty fillers and normally a hell of a lot stronger.
We should be able to choose though – If I want to buy MDMA I don’t want anything else – If I want piperzines Ill buy them!
Sorry for the long message :D
The bad press is really down to the chemists making the pills – they have no idea what they have or what the dose should be so usually put too much into the pills. This added with the fact that 99% of the piperzine pills sold are sold to people looking for and paying for an MDMA high. Its only after they have ingested and the (for some) nightmare effects start that they know they have been conned, yeah the ride can be enjoyable but the side effects can be horrendous (Sickness, paranoia, bad heads, unable to sleep, sweating, uncontrollable twitching, not being able to get comfortable and feeling trapped in your own body) – Now if the person has been drinking before hand or during then these bad experiences can be magnified.
I have to add that a lot of the shop bought pills are better than the street bought “fake” E’s - they have a measured dose of the active ingredients, no dirty fillers and normally a hell of a lot stronger.
We should be able to choose though – If I want to buy MDMA I don’t want anything else – If I want piperzines Ill buy them!
Sorry for the long message :D
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