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Random DXM questions: The Higher Ground

I just want to put this out there for future people looking at this thread. I did attempt a trip on 200mg last night (low dose to test the waters), and the interaction between the remaining selegiline (it has been 35 days) was noticeable, to the extent that i was unable to fall asleep for 6 hours, and there were a few increased side effects. Other than that, everything was A-OK, but the experience was not nearly as relaxing as it usually is. Guess I probably need to wait another 30-60 days to get another selegiline half life under my belt before it gets real awesome again.
 
I dont usually peak off of gelcaps for at least 3-4 hours. It also depends on the brand in my experience. among my friends however, we have had experiences never really materialize with gelcaps, particularly when spacing them out. I never use gelcaps anymore. Zicam is the way to go.
 
Wow 3-4 hours. Dang guys.

Yeah usually I'm up near the top within 2 hours.

Anyway I think those were bad pills. I really believe that. The smell in the can was almost like shit and it had a weird feel to the pills.

I'll be sticking to the name brand now.

Anyway the DiPT fun was good.
 
I'm going to try it again in a few days. I found out the robitussin gels are about $6.49 for 20 everwhere and they say "non-narcotic" but they're still ok right? HOWEVER, the Robo cough supressant says it contains alcohol now everywhere I've looked online. Also, called my local CVS and they (like their internet site) no longer have the gels. This stuff is going to be hard to get and I'm going to stock up soon.
 
Although the theory of Onley's legions has not been confirmed, I do not rule it out. The last time I did a high dose of DXM, I was plauged with a terrible migraine the next day.
 
It's not a matter of ruling it out, it's a matter of ruling it in. You cannot prove a negative. Olney's Lesions have never been shown to happen in humans. Only intravenous DXM caused Olney's Lesions in lab rats. Oral DXM has not been demonstrated to cause brain damage, even in lab animals.
 
Sometimes it just takes forever. DXM is a weird drug. Varies from half an hour to 3 hours sometimes.
 
Mr. Tambourine Man said:
At 15 mg per pill, 240 mg = 16 pills. Also remember, Delsym has a distinctly different feel at lower doses than hydrobromide, owing to the edible plastic coating that makes it extended release.

Bottom line is you can't accurately predict how much Delsym it will take to get to a particular plateau, particularly if you have no prior experience w/ your bodies metabolism of this drug. There are a small minority of individuals who are deficient in a certain enzyme, I believe CYP2D6, but don't quote me on that. For such individuals, dosages that should have little or no effect (ie, ~100 mg) can be much more intense than predicted, and "standard" doses can turn nightmarish. Until you know how your body reacts, stick w/ hydrobromide, and if you really want to play it safe, eat 100 mg a day or two in advance to make sure you don't have the deficiency (though its pretty unlikely). And, as a precaution against nausea (which, with DXM, can be especially toxic-feeling) it wouldn't hurt to buy a packet of Dramamine 2 Non-drowsy formula (meclizine HCL), its a lifesaver against nausea; 25-50 mg will work wonders.

Plus, I've noticed that everyone defines the 4 plateaus of DXM in slightly different ways, and have their own personal "road map" of the effects and respective dosages. For example, my first third plateau experience was off of approximately 400-450 mg, which the FAQ labels as 2nd, its not nearly as clear cut as so many mg/kg, which are more general guidelines.

And also, not to overstate the obvious, but its best to approach the DXM experience gradually. While I think there is at least some argument for having an intense initial experience with something like mushrooms or mescaline, DXM can catch many people off guard, owing to its wide range of physical and mental effects, and its generally alien and unpredictable quality. I feel that its one of those substances that requires more initial preparation to appreciate, but to my mind its well worth the effort. Hope this helps!
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delsym sucks. it always makes me feel like plastic about halfway through the trip.
 
Yeah, I don't really care for delsym either, IME its only properly effective when its mixed with some cannabis. And I enjoy the special magic of the DXM-only experience, which is unique I think.

NeosMatrix said:
I'm going to try it again in a few days. I found out the robitussin gels are about $6.49 for 20 everwhere and they say "non-narcotic" but they're still ok right? HOWEVER, the Robo cough supressant says it contains alcohol now everywhere I've looked online. Also, called my local CVS and they (like their internet site) no longer have the gels. This stuff is going to be hard to get and I'm going to stock up soon.
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When they say non-narcotic, they just mean that it contains no codeine or other opioids. As far as I know, non-narcotic products still contain DXM, and the alcohol in a bottle of max-strength cough syrup is negligible, as its 1.4% (I think).
 
[DxM] How frequently is it safe to 1st plateau?

Hi all. I love the feeling of the first plateau of DxM, mixed with weed.

Musics great, and I own hard at any video game, which is fun. Not to mention the euphoria I feel throughout. Haha.

Anyways.. on to my question. How frequently can I first plateau with this psychedelic, without damaging myself? If it helps, I use the Zicam spray. I never get sick from drinking a bunch of syrup, with who knows what else in it. Its pretty much Menthol and pure DxM.

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Lustmord said:
Hi all. I love the feeling of the first plateau of DxM, mixed with weed.

Musics great, and I own hard at any video game, which is fun. Not to mention the euphoria I feel throughout. Haha.

Anyways.. on to my question. How frequently can I first plateau with this psychedelic, without damaging myself? If it helps, I use the Zicam spray. I never get sick from drinking a bunch of syrup, with who knows what else in it. Its pretty much Menthol and pure DxM.

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nobody can say for sure. there is one thing you should check out though, and that is doing an extraction. the buildup of bromide ions in your nervous system over the long term can cause all kinds of cognitive problems. this has seemingly resolved on its own after cessation of drug use (and a few years time). the agent lemon process removes bromine from the cough products and can be accomplished easily in your home.

As far as frequency of use? I used 1st plateau a few times per week for a month with few effects other than generally feeling mentally slow, and it was great overall (i enjoy 1st plateau for the same reasons you do). You might get some symptoms of depression when you quit though (for a few days or a week or so). I think it's relatively medically safe, you might want to look up some studies on dxm (there have been many done on pain patients) and check out what doses they were using.

good luck and have fun!
 
It's never been proven on humans but there is the old olneys lesions theory.
Though that was caused by high doses in rats, so who really knows. As a general rule of thumb its best not to abuse any drug.

Also 5-HT agonists like LSD and psilocybin prevent the neurotoxicity caused by NMDA receptor antagonists like DXM -wiki
 
Also Delsyd, that was caused by IV. Never was noted on oral ingestion.

I do this myself though w/o weed. From time to time I love just putting down like 120 mg and feeling wired and crazy.

I dont think its very bad at all. Its such a low dose. In fact, 120mg is legal. They say no more than 30mg at once, and you can do that up to 4 times a day. So they couldnt really let you do that if it was all bad.
 
i agree with you, nothing wrong with dosing 120mg. Seems like a better option than eating 1+ grams, liike some ppl do.

But the original question was about the safety of dosing it frequently. For which i have no answer...
 
dxm is pretty safe dude, it wouldnt be in cough syrups, at that aswell as in cough syrups for KIDS if it was dangerous. 120-200mg isnt far from the daily allowment ontop of that so yeah i would say it is very safe physically though you may not wanna do it more than a few times a week cause dxm addiction is nutters.
 
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