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Tryptamines [DMT Subthread] Injecting (crystal clear) Extracts

Sorry to bring up an old thread (especially such an apparently controversial one) but I have haven't been able to contact psilocybonaut any other way (I don't have enough posts to PM him). I just wanted a few clarifications as to how the sterile vials from Research Supply work: it seems to mean that once you have punctured the vial's septum, it would be opened and thus wouldn't keep sterility very long, or does it somehow reseal itself? I was also wondering what concentration you used to inject DMT (mg of freebase per mL of distilled water).

Thanks!
 
ir74 said:
Sorry to bring up an old thread (especially such an apparently controversial one) but I have haven't been able to contact psilocybonaut any other way (I don't have enough posts to PM him). I just wanted a few clarifications as to how the sterile vials from Research Supply work: it seems to mean that once you have punctured the vial's septum, it would be opened and thus wouldn't keep sterility very long, or does it somehow reseal itself? I was also wondering what concentration you used to inject DMT (mg of freebase per mL of distilled water).

Thanks!
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I believe that if you insert a sterile needle into sterile solution that has a rubber top that the solution will stay sterile if you always use a sterile needle. Im not an expert on this so please do independent research, unless someone else knows more.

Here is a link to a IV trip report from erowid. Perhaps that can help you with your dosage.

Love and Lite <3 and Welcome :)
 
Gaian Planes said:
spooky quote man :\

<3
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and yes that quote is quite spooky :( RIP DevineMomenT <3

I have actually had a similar trips, where the entities would address my opiate use.... one very scary one in which I died (but it was DMT so it was like a rebirth of sorts)
 
ir74 said:
... it seems to mean that once you have punctured the vial's septum, it would be opened and thus wouldn't keep sterility very long, or does it somehow reseal itself? I was also wondering what concentration you used to inject DMT (mg of freebase per mL of distilled water).
Thanks!
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It's important to swab the rubber top with an alcohol prep pad before penetrating it with a sterile needle. The rubber top should reseal itself.

As far as concentration goes, 50 mg/ml is probably a good starting point.
 
Yah I know about the alcohol prep pad and the sterile needle, I just needed confirmation about the rubber top resealing itself. Thanks!

I suppose that if 50mg/mL is a good concentration, that Shulgin's dose range of 5-30mg for IV isn't spot on?
 
Gaian Planes said:
Hello,

I know we have a big/dandy thread for DMT ;) but I thought I could have a separate topic for a day or two so it could get the attention of folks who might miss it otherwise. Thanks mods :)

Obviously, it is NOT a good idea to inject less than pure DMT as there are bits of tannins and other stuff in the material that are NOT GOOD for your body. You could cause a severe allergic reaction.

Question: What if a person has VERY CLEAR and PURE DMT crystals (after rextalizing they end up with a chunk of pure transluscent DMT). Could they safely IV this material?

Thanks a lot!
samadhi
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Dissolve & recrystallize from ehthanol or isopropanol. The pure alcohol will not dissolve protein-like compounds (may even denature them) so a quick filter then evaporation will remove anything likely to drive the immune system into an orgy of activity (that's how anaphylactic shock comes about). That's what I do to be ultra cautious (using that method I've IMed a fair bit of plant extracted DMT without incident)
 
ir74 said:
I suppose that if 50mg/mL is a good concentration, that Shulgin's dose range of 5-30mg for IV isn't spot on?
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No, that dose range is right on the mark. I used a 1/2 cc insulin needle, so that's 25 mg max per shot, which is as high as I've gone (and as high as I recommend going). See previous posts on page two of this thread for details. Also, here's another description I posted in response to Psood0nym's excellent trip report on the IV DMT/K combination.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=381963

I'm still very much under the influence and also very much in awe of the capability of this combo to transmute to my fragile consciousness into such sublimity. I literally felt as if I were tumbling through life's wardrobe. At one point I relived a childhood memory, playing in a ravine with my brother, only to realize I was being buried beneath and integrated into a great oak tree. My experience morphed through thousands of memories and textures, each exquisitely vivid and achingly beautiful.

I have tried many, but the IV DMT/ket combo is absolutely unparalleled.

<3

Drug regimen
50 mg IM Ketamine
IV #1: 12 mg DMT/5 mg Ket
IV #2: 20 mg DMT/8 mg Ket
IV #3: 20 mg DMT/8 mg Ket
IV #4: 25 mg DMT/10 mg Ket

Each shot was spaced roughly 20 minutes apart, and each time my mind returned to a recognizable brand of consciousness at roughly T+0:10. Within ten seconds of depressing the plunger, I was forced to lie back, thereby ducking into a realm of expanding and collapsing corridors of the most brilliantly elaborate architecture. I was reminded of a particular Escher print, bearing the impossible perspectives of each mental frame. Each moment carried its own signature associations, whether it was recognition of a long-forgotten smell or a familiar word carving itself out of the enigmatic, putty-like walls of my mind. I was twisted and ground through razor-sharp gears, slicing me into a thousand pieces, only to be integrated and reformed a thousand times more. Chutes and impossible tunnels whisked me through the endless cerebral labyrinth. At times I would distinguish parts of myself, my own memories, including past dreams and obscure textures in the very walls of these corridors. I recall opening my eyes in the middle of the experience a few times, only to find that the room had been rendered unrecognizable. I was stranded in an ocean of faces and beings, which flowered from the walls and ceiling. The return to “baseline” usually occurred abruptly with a deep inhalation and a sudden familiarity of the room in which I had begun. More than once, with this inhalation, I felt that life had been breathed back into me. With a gasp, I had been reborn from the depths of my DMT journey.

I believe the ketamine was extremely useful in that it both removed the element of fear and opened up dream-like associative processes in the otherwise chaotic nightmare of IV DMT. Note: I also found that the use of LSD as a launch pad creates a seamless transition and reduces the chaotic nature of DMT.

I've never tried IM 4-xx-DMT with ketamine, but my curiosity is certainly piqued after last night.
 
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beautiful dondante

thanks once again for taking the time to share your thoughts...they are so exquisitely phrased...it helps me understand my own experience better honestly

Do you mind if I forward your post to a friend in philosophy that I think would find some interesting parts to what you say. I especially think we would be interested in the impossible aspects to your experience (as this is an ongoing debate with this friend whether people can experience impossibilities, I think we can he thinks it doesn't make sense to talk of impossible experiences).

I understand what you mean about the reborn part also

each time I smoke DMT I usually do something similar to what you did with shots (I smoke 25-35mg spaced apart about 20 minutes) and each time I regroup from the flash I feel like I'm reborn or maybe even 'newborn'
 
^Thank you for your kind words.

You're welcome to forward my post, but I'm not confident that my experience qualifies as the "impossible experience" you're thinking of. I did not simultaneously experience two mutually exclusive states, as in a quality and its negative. For example, it wasn't as if I experienced myself moving up and down at the same time. I think this experience of impossible perspectives would be better described as a warped sense of spatial orientation (something that often accompanies ketamine in my experience).

Interesting thought though, have you ever experience two contradictory states at the same time? I may have, but I can't think of one in particular at the moment.

I'll keep thinking about it. ;)
 
So you are combining the ketamine and IV DMT in the same syringe?

Have you tried IM K/DMT?

I am yet to try the IV... but am interested to find out differences in the type of experience from it.


Julian.
 
IM K/DMT is pretty spectacular and does produce a nice smooth ride. It's where DPT/K falls down a bit. To be deposited out of the relative comfortableness of K into a bumpy DPT comedown is a bit wearing on the nerves.

IM afraid I'll just have to leave IV experiences to others to describe as I activly don't want to know how to IV. In my more stupid moments, I could see it being employed with a stimulant, and that's not good...
 
If i were to get DMT freebase, I remember reading it but how would I convert to be soluble for IM. Does mixing it with ascorbic acid then dissolving in water help? Or do I have to add drops of vinegar till it dissolves?
 
folias said:
So you are combining the ketamine and IV DMT in the same syringe?
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I did combine both in the same syringe, although I pretreated with a moderate dose of IM ketamine. And I was able to inject myself, but lucky for me my veins are easy to see and nearly impossible to miss. IV DMT/K is an altogether incredible experience for sure, but I think the IV ketamine (particularly at 10 mg and above) significantly impairs recall of the experience. It's certainly not an experience that provides revelations or practical insight ... it's more of an all-encompassing hallucinatory experience, but a damn interesting one at that. As I mentioned before, ketamine effectively smoothed the transition and removed any element of fear, but after helping a friend with IV DMT/K, I think that less ketamine may be better. My experience with IV DMT while on LSD was somewhat different. LSD also smoothed the transition, but the experience was definitely more lucid, profound, and spiritual. Either way, the state is so completely foreign that proper recall is really an unattainable goal.

I have not tried IM DMT/K.
 
good thoughts dondante, thanks for sharing

I did not prefer IV K, like you said its too fast and its hard to remember anything from the tryptamine's action.

I also found using DMT on top of LSD to have that 'smoothing' effect you mentioned (although I smoked DMT on top of LSD not injected)...the peak is more unified with the longer/less intense LSD peak almost literally in terms of the visuals interlocking

I am real excited for DET and ketamine together! :D
 
soon enough I hope my friend! =D

I wish the jeweled lattice like visual structure to descend over my world <3
 
okay, so i've been skimming this thread and will someone just please tell me clear step-by-step instructions on how to get the yellow powder (that really doesn't break down in normal water) to a liquid that can IV'd?

Will this work:

put spice in spoon
add single drops of vinegar and stir until it's dissolved
add some water to make the solution not so acidic (if so, how much?)
slam

also, can regular cotton be used as a filter in lieu of a micron wheel filter? i've shot countless amounts of dirty meth and other shit over the years and i'm fine. is the micron filter really necessary instead of cotton?

thank you in advance.
 
read through it more carefully. Dondante gives a very detailed walkthrough.

also

wheel filter - problem is meth doesn't have plant particulate in it. DMT may have minute traces of the plant (rootbark from mimosa no doubt). That stuff is NOT good to inject (think anaphylactic reaction).

also

don't inject yellow DMT! 8o
 
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