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New to opiates? Don't want to get addicted? Follow this beginners guide

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About 3 years ago SWIM was prescribed oxy 30s (roxicodone) for a serious accident they were in. For a while SWIM never even touched them and would just endure the pain when SWIMs back was acting up. Little did SWIM know what a gold mine of happiness SWIM was missing out on!


But as we all know, opiates are very addicting. It's been a year now since SWIM started using them recreationally. You would think SWIM would be addicted or on a road to one, right? But SWIM isn't. Here's how SWIM did it and I would highly recommend this method to anybody just starting to experiment with opiates :

1. Find your target dose. ( for Swim it's 15 mg)

- Target does is how much it takes you to get high for the first couple timed.

first time you get high it'll be great. Second time will still feel almost as good as before. third time, you'll get high but it won't be as good as it was before. Eventually you won't feel it at all. So now it's just a waste of money to do your target dose and it becomes pointless. This is called TOLERANCE and it is VERY IMPORTANT.

3. Once your target does doesn't work any more you'll want to take more to get the same effect. DO NOT DO THIS! THIS IS HOW ADDICTION starts.

4. So now what? You can't get high anymore, but you want to. But your tolerance WILL go down and you WILL be able to enjoy them again . But don't go higher. I can not stress this enough. DO NOT KEEP UPPING YOUR DOSE.

This way you'll save money and be able to enjoy opiates without addiction.

- Patience and willpower is key here.

Don't fall for that "just on weekends" crap either.

Your body doesn't have a calendar to let you know when you're safe again. When you're good to go again, you'll know it.

Also, don't mistake your addiction for a want. Of course SWIM would love to hold onto this feeling 24/7 365. But this is impossible.

Treat opiates well and they'll treat you well. Don't believe the bullshit propaganda. As long as you're careful you can have a good time.
 
You could summarize this by saying that people new to opiates should use them in extreme moderation...like once every two weeks :P
 
mmm.. I love not being an addictive person. One one substance I have ever done that is questionable that I could get hooked on. Xanax.
 
I believe (maybe wrongly) that some are more susceptible to opiate addiction than others. I, myself am very fond of kratom and while it isn't strictly an opiate, it has some similar properties. What I'm getting at is, I use Kratom very frequently for extended periods, with high doses 15-20 gm's. I'm not addicted and experience no withdrawals when I have none. Others complain of lurid and painful experiences when there without their Kratom and they claim that their doses are a lot smaller than mine 5-10 gm's - maybe their lying, which would be quite typical behaviour of the addict.

Also I have a taste for codeine. I liked it, but, then again I used it infrequently and never felt the urge to repeat two days in a row. It was nicest when I had some cannabis to burn - very nice synergy.

I'm not boasting that I'm somehow above addiction. I've been hooked on alchohol, tobbacco, various benzodiazepenes and I'm undergoing a lenghty taper to get off Effexor. I'm just saying, while I enjoy opiates and opiate like drugs, I don't find them so good that I'd make them my life. Many people are different in this respect.
 
People need to shutup with the SWIM, the pigs fuckin know if your saying that it just means you...
 
shepj said:
whatcha mean?
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chipping means using in a controlled manner for a long period of time while you are able to maintain a normal job, family life, etc. basically, you use them but never get addicted. I've been doing this for 5 years with hydromorphone
 
AdOgG0911 said:
chipping means using in a controlled manner for a long period of time while you are able to maintain a normal job, family life, etc. basically, you use them but never get addicted. I've been doing this for 5 years with hydromorphone
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Thanks for that out of 19years of the internet I never knew what chippin meant i thought had something to do with controlled taking. Im a chipper have been for 10 years go the chippers :)
 
Potentiate

Hmm, SWIM...that´s a funny name. What were you´re parents thinking?

How about this? If you don´t want to increase your
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target dose
, why not use an opiate potentiate to increase the efficacy of you dose?

There are too many threads on Bluelight to count to number of potentiation threads there are, but you have many OTC choices to make a little bit go longer.
 
dude you shouldnt be saying this bullshit because the truth is when it comes to fuckin wid oxys or dope its like dancing with the devil its so good u wanna do em every day nd it goes from there ...defintly wouldnt suggest ny one to do em more then once cuz thats when they get you
 
woodandink said:
You could summarize this by saying that people new to opiates should use them in extreme moderation...like once every two weeks :P
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Or you could sum it up up by saying:

The key to not getting addicted is willpower.


Guess what, OP? For most people, opiates (and the desire to be high) are a lot stronger than willpower
 
JV said:
ever heard the phrase "easier said than done..."?
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Exactly.

I don't think there could ever be a guide about not becoming addicted to anything...unless it says "don't use every day." Even then, it's never 100% fool-proof. Yeah, for a while you can use a couple days in a row, take a few days off, but even then, as has been mentioned, what happens when the dose you've been taking doesn't work anymore? If you loved the drug enough to keep taking it, you're not just going to say "ah fuck it, I'm done with it." Well, at least, most people wouldn't say that, and there-in lies the problem. You can take an extended break, but with most drugs, after tolerance drops, it resurfaces incredibly fast, so you'd have to take 2 - 4 week breaks, use once or twice in-between, then take another 2 - 4 week break. Again, who's actually going to do that?

Tolerance develops, you start giving yourself more free space to use the drug - or saying "I don't need to take as long a break this time," or, "I can start my break a little later this time; I'll just use x-number of times more, then stop" - and eventually, before you even realize it, you're doing it every day and feeling sick when you don't.

Sorry man. No guide is ever going to stop addiction. If you don't want to be addicted to something, just don't use...period.
 
^ End of thread there I reckon =D

Even though I would, and still do, go without Heroin for half a week or so (the longest being a week), I still ended up becoming addicted.
I think I must have an addictive personality. . .
Partially genetically predisposed (my mum and my late grandmother are and were Alcoholics, also my grandmother being a smoker who never quit [but who didn't die of a smoking related cause] and I wouldn't be surprised if there were more in the family tree who took to Alcohol) but there's a lot of other factors that make me susceptible to becoming dependent on addictive substances.
 
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