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NEWS: News.com.au - 2/2/09 'Girl dies of Big Day Out drug overdose'

^reminds me when I tripple dumped white hearts around july last year cause they turned to powder and I was like fuck it ill just eat it all. Couldnt see everything was blured, no sense of space or time, go to sit down on a seat and hit the ground, sweating like crazy, everything was warped visually, couldnt walk or do anything properly, took me around 10 mins to walk down a flight of stairs with maybe 30 steps.
 
I'm surprised it didn't happen to more people, dehydration in 43degree weather alone can kill you, mix it with a cocktail of drugs that elevate your body temperature and heart rate massively and its asking for trouble. I'm curious what the actual cause of death was though.
 
Mr Blonde said:
The information level on those substances is not at the same point though that it is with alcohol and tobacco so no one can make claims on how they are going to effect the public in the long term.
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And they can't conduct enough research until they are made legal. Funny that.


And all those people saying we should legalize, regulate and all that. Why don't instead of us just telling a bunch of people on an internet forum that no one else is going to read any way, actually do something.
And organize to others to do so.

There are enough drug users in this country to make a difference.

We need to show the rest of society that just because we use drugs doesn't mean we are a bunch of idiots who are the lowest of low and have no opinion.
 
News reports are indicating she took green hearts. I can think of two green hearts that have gone round perth recently, one with a heart "outline", the other more or a heart "press".

Anyone had a bad experience with either?

Besides that, nothing new was released.
 
I saw this on the news too. They mentioned that there was a possible "bad batch" of pills on the streets? I mean what the fuck is that supposed to mean? are they saying that the pills dont contain MDMA and contain poisen or some other fucked up shit? Just scare tactics to put the fear in parents and give them a good excuse to make harsher laws for simple posession.

Why dont they research their stories a little better? Fuck it wouldn't really be that hard to source out a green heart around Perth and get it properly tested by GC/MS. I HIGHLY doubt a bad batch caused this. I mean shouldn't they really be telling people to keep themselves cool and well hydrated when taking E instead of just putting it down to a supposed "bad batch". Some young dumb and nieve kid could just think "well fuck those green hearts, there poisen but these yellow doves are safe to take cause there not from the bad batch", and they could go out and do the same bloody thing. Wheres the harm minimisation?
 
heard from a friend of one of her friends that she took alot more than 3..

seven apparently. but yeah, friend of a frient type stuff ey. i wouldnt be surprised if it were true, who would want the public thinking their daughter took 7 pills
 
RIP
shame on the police what price is this war on drugs going to cost.
was people pillin happy loved up at an event going to cause problems?
i recall raves no cops no worrys everyone on mdma cool calm friendly.
these shit pills and police and raids have fucked everything and caused a doomed generation that will never know good pills, slack laws, running a muck, slack leavers and NYE rules. I feel for this family and friends of this girl and her generation.

Perth offically the worst BDO. by far and i been to most of them around australia
 

Mother tells of Gemma Thoms ecstasy tragedy
Article from: PerthNow
Glenn Cordingley
February 04, 2009 07:10pm

A MOTHER whose teenage daughter died after swallowing ecstasy tablets has told of the last time they waved goodbye to each other.

Gemma Thoms, 17, collapsed at the Big Day Out concert at Claremont Showgrounds on Sunday.

In hospital, it is understood her body temperature rose to about 45C – about 8C above normal.

Twelve hours later, she was dead.

Her mother, Peta, said that Gemma panicked and took several ecstasy tablets when she noticed police sniffer dogs at the entrance of the event.

Gemma went to the Big Day Out - her first outdoor concert - with her friend Cassandra.

Today Tonight said it was understood both girls took a tablet each before leaving home.

Peta said the girls saw police near the entrance, and in a panic her daughter had swallowed two more pills, Cassandra another one.

Cassandra vomited her tablet, which may have saved her life.

Peta recalled the final words she said to her daughter.

"She reached in through the car and gave me a kiss and said 'I love you mum' and I said 'I love you too' and I said 'be careful' and she said 'don't worry everything will be fine'," Peta said on the program.

Police have not made any arrests but officers have raided a house in their search for the dealer who supplied the ecstasy.

It is yet to be determined whether the tablets were potent or contained poison.

Perth Now
 

Premier Colin Barnett 'harsh' on drug death girl
Article from: The Australian
Debbie Guest
February 04, 2009 07:02am

PREMIER Colin Barnett has been accused of being harsh and unsympathetic about a teenager's overdose death on Sunday.

Mr Barnett yesterday defended police and their use of drug detection dogs at the Big Day Out event, saying that, although the death of 17-year-old Gemma Thoms was a "very sad situation", the only solution was for young people to "say no" to drugs.

Friends of the apprentice hairdresser believe Gemma had already taken one ecstasy tablet and was waiting to enter the music festival when she panicked at the possibility of being detected and swallowed two other ecstasy tablets in her pocket.

After entering the Claremont Showgrounds, she collapsed and was taken to hospital, where she later died. Police said yesterday the sniffer dogs were used only at the showground's train station and, because Gemma was dropped off, she would not have even seen the dogs.

New South Wales Greens MP Sylvia Hale said the use of sniffer dogs at such events was simply a PR exercise.

She said a 2006 NSW Ombudsman's report identified the problems associated with the use of sniffer dogs and the potential for young people to engage in risky behaviour.

She said Mr Barnett's reaction to Gemma's death had been unsympathetic.

"It's an extraordinarily harsh reaction," Ms Hale said.

"Here we have a death, and a death that was predicted as a possible outcome, for the Premier now to say this is acceptable, I find unacceptable."

Ms Hale said a zero-tolerance approach to drugs had consistently failed.

Council for Civil Liberties in Western Australia president Peter Weygers said Mr Barnett had shown a lack of understanding.

"The Premier's being most unsympathetic to the fact that, here's a young person, immature, probably influenced by a peer group ... has felt the need to take these so-called recreational drugs and then she's panicked when she thought she was going to get caught because she knows the consequences, and it's a tragedy," Mr Weygers said.

Mr Barnett was unapologetic and said police had a responsibility to restrict and stop the use of drugs.

"I will support their actions and continue to have inspections and sniffer dogs at public events," he said.

"The only solution I say to young people is don't use drugs, don't put toxic chemicals into your body, that's not a cool look, that's not a good outcome and we saw that tragedy happen."

Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan rejected claims that police were in any way responsible for Gemma's death.

"Some of their propositions are quite frankly absurd and suggest that police should turn a blind eye, do nothing about drug possession, and ignore the state's laws regarding illegal drugs," Mr O'Callaghan said.

Bree Fazioli, a friend and colleague of Gemma, was not at the Big Day Out, but said: "You can't blame police, they've potentially stopped this happening with other people. We would rather that she had been caught and was in court and not at the morgue."

Police seized almost 130 ecstasy tablets at the event and charged four people with possession of drugs with intent to sell or supply, including one man for possessing 20 ecstasy tablets.

A report is being prepared for the Coroner.

Perth Now
 

Youth body backs amnesty bin proposal
Aja Styles
February 5, 2009 - 4:04PM

Police Commissioner Karl O’Callaghan is considering introducing ''amnesty'' bins for the disposal of drugs at music festivals following the death of 17-year-old Gemma Thoms.

Ms Thoms died in Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital on Monday morning after falling into a coma at the Big Day Out music festival.

Friends reported she had taken three ecstasy pills before entering the festivals' gates at the Claremont Showground.

Mr O’Callaghan committed to examining the idea of allowing festival-goers to dispose of their drugs safely before being searched by police, an idea put forward by a talk-back listener on 6PR radio this morning.

''I think that's one suggestion, it's certainly not a bad suggestion we will certainly be willing to co-operate with that if it's done in connection with another government agency but that's not to say we will change our strategy,'' he said.

''We will be at the Big Day Out next year doing exactly the same thing.''

He said police were targeting drug dealers and those carrying a number of drugs to be shared with friends at the Big Day Out.

''Ultimately police were there doing the job that they are required to do and we were looking for people in possession of drugs, both for personal use and for sharing and we were responding to what the community expect us to respond to,'' he said.

''We found a number of people at that particular event who had shareable amounts of drugs and any parent in Western Australia sending their children along to that event would expect us to do no less.''

Police have been carrying out drug raids on properties but have yet to source the dealers of ''green heart'' ecstasy pills that Ms Thoms allegedly took before collapsing.

Lisa Laschon, of the Youth Affairs Council of Western Australia, welcomed Mr O'Callaghan's response to the proposal for the use of amnesty bins.

''It's good to see that the Police Commissioner is exploring initiatives to save young lives,'' she said.

''Amnesty bins are used at music festivals in the UK and enable illicit substances to be disposed of without fear of recrimination before young people enter festivals.

''This means people can make a decision about the risks and make an informed choice.''

She hoped to trial the idea at this year's Good Vibrations festival, which is being held at Heirisson Island on February 22.

She said the council would be willing to work with the State Government and police to install and promote the bins at the festival.

WA Today
 

Police not responsible for BDO overdose death: Commissioner
Aja Styles
February 4, 2009

Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan has lashed out at claims that police were in any way to blame for the death of 17-year old Gemma Thoms.

Gemma died from a suspected drug overdose after reportedly taking three ecstasy tablets shortly before collapsing into a coma at the Big Day Out festival held on Sunday. She died in Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital the following morning.

Witnesses said she had become scared and swallowed the pills after spotting police sniffer dogs near the gates of the festival, which was held at the Claremont Showground.

This led to criticism from civil liberties groups, politicians and the Youth Affairs Council over police heavy-handedness at the event.

Mr O'Callaghan strongly rejected any allegations that the police drug enforcement strategy was somehow responsible for Gemma's death.

"Police do not accept responsibility for this death," he said.

"Some of their propositions (by critics) are quite frankly absurd and suggest that police should turn a blind eye, do nothing about drug possession, and ignore the state's laws regarding illegal drugs.

"Police in this state will not be modifying their tactics when it comes to people who use or deal in illegal drugs, and I believe the community of Western Australia supports that approach."

Gemma's mother Peta told Today Tonight how her daughter was definitely scared of being caught by police and her reaction.

"She reached in through the car and gave me a kiss and said 'I love you mum' and I said 'I love you too' and I said 'be careful' and she said 'don't worry everything will be fine'," Mrs Thoms said.

"They were scared they were going to get caught.

"I am never going to get to touch her, touch her hair, touch her head, cuddle her, tell her I love her."

Mr O'Callaghan expressed his condolences over Gemma's death, but said strong drug enforcement operations like those at the Big Day Out would continue at future WA music festivals.

The interview with Mrs Thoms will be aired tonight on Channel Seven.

WA Today
 
The Mother will be speaking out against drugs from what I heard & the friend who was with Gemma when she died will be speaking up as well.


Today Tonight: friday 6.02.09 at 6:30pm channel 7
 
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Somethings fishy about the story. Her friend vomited the 2 pills up? Could of been something else other than mdma in the pill. U dont normaly vomit from pills unless theres something bad in it if ur body rejects it. I think she had more than 3 beans. Dropping 1 then 2 at once isnt much at all.
 
We have to wait for coroner report and lab testing of her stomach to see what was in the pills.
 
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