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The Big & Dandy First-Time-Tripper Thread

If you like shrooms then you will LOVE acid!


Remember, it's all about set and setting :)

Well that's a good sign then. :)

Be around friends in a fun environment, personally I like to fry at home with friends, or to go downtown and walk around or find something fun to do.

Watching Invader Zim has always been a favorite of mine to do while frying as well :)

I'm planning to trip at a mates house, I'm pretty comfy with it. I think I'm going to take 1/2 a tab this time. I've just G'd myself up too much...
 
what should i expect to see?
I know that is too general but I mean like walls and objects moving in and out
or like seeing sounds and feeling colors?

You won't see anything. Maybe faint patterns.

As for synesthesia, you're going to need a huge dose, so don't expect it.

And I would do it alone. With all my experiences, I've concluded LSD is almost always best alone. I'm sure a few people on here know what I mean.
 
You are going to be blown away for sure, no one can ever expect what acid will give them the first time. Have you tried any other psychedelics before?

You will probably experience walls breathing, euphoria, and plenty of deep thought that you probably won't expect. Make sure you are in a good mind set before hand, like not being stressed out over finals or a relationship, because those negative thoughts will emerge hardcore while tripping on LSD.

I would recommend doing it alone the first time, except many other people would say otherwise. If you don't feel completely comfortable by yourself than you should do it with your buddy to ensure that you have great set and setting.
 
I've just broken up with my girlfriend over this, I told her if she can't accept me for who i am then tough. I'm not sure how i feel about this. Should i wait and not do tabs for a while? I had this weekend planned. It was a short relationship and I'm not too upset about it, more pissed off than anything.
 
Ahh, I've only done Acid once when I was incredibly drunk and ended up passing out and when I woke up the effects were totally gone.

I'm planning to do acid again very soon, within the next 2 weeks. Recently a person I know had a terrible experience on Acid and ended up having the worst trip of his life. He's pretty much been fucked by it, was arrested and has stopped taking every drug (he used to be a casual user of just about everything).

bad trips can happen, people occasionally stop all drug use after.... its turned full blown addicts more sober than the pope... It is powerful, with a little respect you should be fine. A good set and setting, with a reasonable dose for your first time and all will be well....

I'm really not 100% if I want to do this, I mean I really want to try it again and experience the "wonders of LSD". But my friend has been telling me about how terrible his trip was and how he regrets it and its making me fairly uncertain.

Can anyone help me here? I've got some previous experienced with Mushrooms and thought it was great fun.

Understandable, but then again you could have an amazing experience.... my first trip was the happiest i have ever felt multiplied by a thousand.... so happy that ecstasy is not sufficient to describe it... so happy that it changed me, showed me that i did not really need any more reason to be happy than to simply be alive... and to someone like me who was depressed, that realization is a wonderful thing, in 12 hours i went from hating my life to being happy to be alive. Ive done acid more times that i could keep track of, all have been good experiences. Bad trips are not all that bad, usually you will only have them if our in a bad setting or your mindset is not great... if you go into it with apprehension or regret, expect these feelings to affect your trip, go into it without regrets because once you put that paper to your tongue there is no going back. If you think about having a bad trip, it might happen....In all reality though, most people consider mushrooms more likely to cause a difficult experience.

Go outside, trip with a friend your first time, draw, color, ride a bike, watch your ceiling, listen to music, if you play an instrument by all means get it out and play....

If things start to get overwhelming, just let go. Just remember that it will all be over eventually. Write in advance before your trip on a sheet of paper "I took LSD, i took a drug and am not crazy, thing will always go back to normal" or something along those lines. Sure anyone can try and convince someone on Acid suffering from a bad trip that everything will be alright, but seeing it in your own handwriting can be even more convincing.... If you get hung up on something try and put all of your concentration into something abstract, like holding your thumb and index finger apart and asking yourself "how far are these fingers apart" seems like a simple question to a sober mind, its a matter of inches or centimeters, but what connotes an inch, a centimeter, a yard or a mile? one thought will lead to another and you will gradually probably get farther into the question, and by the time you settle on an answer you have probably forgotten what the original question was and whatever might have been bothering you....

When your thoughts are racing more than you ever thought possible, distracting yourself from something for even a short time can get whatever was bothering you off your mind....

Do it on a nice sunny day, or a clear night... either way i suggest you spend some time outside as it is simply beautiful.... in the day colors are vivid but shifted.... I went kayaking on a hit of some pretty good acid a couple months back, kayaking under a blue and purple sky with the sun bearing down but not feeling hot at all, the ripples in the water reflecting the sun looking electric and forming patterns of infinite complexity.... I could have been out there all day. But night trips are fun as well, looks like someone shot the sky full of diamonds, an overwhelming amount of stars, its easy to get lost in them, the glow of the street lamps and shadows dancing on the roads, and it feels like your alone in the world, all is at peace...
 
Mescaline Use

Hey Bluelighters,

Me and my boyfriend are interested in trying Mescaline. We've never done a hallucinogenic drug before, and I was wonder what the trip in general would be like for this specific drug?

Thanks=D
 
Hey Bluelighters,

Me and my boyfriend are interested in trying Mescaline. We've never done a hallucinogenic drug before, and I was wonder what the trip in general would be like for this specific drug?

Thanks=D

never tried it, but from what i have heard about it, it would be a great first psych...

depending on how you consume it, your probably going to have a good deal of nausea, and puke... you could just extract it though if your comfortable with an acid base extraction, look on erowid, the chemical itself might cause a little initial nausea, but at least with extracted crystals you wont have to chug down some boiled down cactus sludge.... If you just want to go with the boiled cactus method, try to not puke for as long as you can and then let it all out....

i hear its a beautiful trip, i know it was shulgins first psych, i haven't had the opportunity to try it but want to, its not a very common street drug...
 
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I've read that even synthetic mescaline has a nausea component to it, could be a quality of the molecule (although I'm sure that chewing up a bunch of bitter dried cactus doesn't help too much though!)

I'm sure mescaline as your first psychedelic will be a beautiful experience indeed :)
 
Thanks guys! The nausea puts me off a little bit, but I think it sounds like a good drug with a great trip!
 
This is like deja vu of me posting in the ecstasy part of the forum.
I tried pills for the first time almost 1 month ago consumed 1.5 pills in total that night. Then i took them again on new years eve the other night, and consumed 3 in total, and they were meant to be relatively strong pills, a friend who is becoming a regular user had 3 when i'd had 2 and was absolutely wrecked yet at the same time i was nearly sober.
what i'm leading to is i think i have a bit of a resistance to mdma. i have smoked weed 3-4 times a week for nearly 3 years so i am used to the basics. when i tried pills both times i felt no anxiety or worries, and from what sober and high friends told me i handled pills really well.
i've never had a bad weed trip except one which i think was laced with something.
what i'm leading to now is i might have a chance to try acid either tomorrow or very soon.
i think we have a setting, my friends bungalow style bedroom, it's brand new, just been built.
i have been in the room while fairly high on pills and i loved the room something crazy.
i think there will be myself and 3 others, and we will be quartering a tab between us.
i know i'm thinking too much into it(as i did with ecstasy.) What else do i need to remember while i'm tripping, and what do i need on hand.(drinks, food other supplies etc.)
thanks guys and girls.
-allelsefails-
 
Thanks guys! The nausea puts me off a little bit, but I think it sounds like a good drug with a great trip!

my first synthetic mesc trip i took 250 mg in a capsule.
no nausea at all , a very benign peaceful feeling in my mind and body
but no visuals , just everything more clearly.

2nd synth mesc trip 400 mg , taken in 4 capsules of 100 mg spread apart over 2 hours....no nausea.
full blown star visuals , an overwelming feeling of peace and unity , a very good experience.

you don't need to take all the mescaline at once , this will usually induce nausea . so spead the intake !

it's been said before :
" set and setting are everything , (and so is dose and experience !) "

your ex.
 
^ Ha ha - I ate similar amounts of synth mesc hcl but took the higher dose (@350mgs) in one go - that made me somewhat manic with slight stomach issues. Very reminiscent of DOM for the manic aspect & about the same hour long stomach issues.

At 250mgs as you said -
a very benign peaceful feeling in my mind and body
but no visuals , just everything more clearly.
 
Here is my opinion of the best psychedelic compounds a beginner could start with.

In my opinion and my many experiences, I think that the BEST psychedelics (and possible dosages) for first timers are (in order of best to worst, #1 would be the best one out of this list, and the last one would probably be the least ideal one on the list [although they are still good beginner psychedelics when compared to the others]):

1. 2C-I (16-20mg) <-----This is by far the BEST one for newbies. It presents NO ego loss in my experience, and is basically like a happy time with colorful visuals. Almost like psychedelic MDMA, without the extreme MDMA euphoria.

2. 2C-B (16-20mg) <-----I would say this is almost just as good as 2C-I for beginners, though it is a bit more psychedelic than 2C-I (especially at high doses). Not quite as ideal for 2C-I for a first timer (IMO), but very very close.

3. 4-AcO-DMT (~15-20mg) <-----MUCH, MUCH better choice than mushrooms for a first timer. Effects are nearly identical to mushrooms (4-HO-DMT), except there is not nearly as much ego loss/mind-fuck and it lasts like 2 hours longer. It actually seems to relax/sedate you a bit before the trip. I personally love this compound and think it would be a great starter. I don't know why (because they are so similar in chemical structure), but they are MUCH MUCH smoother than mushrooms. A lot of people I know also like it BETTER than mushrooms.

4. LSD (100-150mcg) <-----Probably the best "common" psychedelic to start out with, in my opinion. Much much easier to start with than mushrooms, in my experience. Mushrooms are no joke, even though they are quite common. While mushrooms just hack at your ego unforgivingly, LSD kind of picks it apart at it like a puzzle...it would be more comfortable for beginners, at least in my experience.

P.S. I did not include MDMA in this list, because it is the most predictable psychedelic and causes extreme euphoria for most (it's not a traditional visual/mindfuck psychedelic, more for pleasure IMO). If I were to include MDMA, it would be #1 on the list, because it is by far the easiest to handle.
 
This is like deja vu of me posting in the ecstasy part of the forum.
I tried pills for the first time almost 1 month ago consumed 1.5 pills in total that night. Then i took them again on new years eve the other night, and consumed 3 in total, and they were meant to be relatively strong pills, a friend who is becoming a regular user had 3 when i'd had 2 and was absolutely wrecked yet at the same time i was nearly sober.
what i'm leading to is i think i have a bit of a resistance to mdma. i have smoked weed 3-4 times a week for nearly 3 years so i am used to the basics. when i tried pills both times i felt no anxiety or worries, and from what sober and high friends told me i handled pills really well.
i've never had a bad weed trip except one which i think was laced with something.
what i'm leading to now is i might have a chance to try acid either tomorrow or very soon.
i think we have a setting, my friends bungalow style bedroom, it's brand new, just been built.
i have been in the room while fairly high on pills and i loved the room something crazy.
i think there will be myself and 3 others, and we will be quartering a tab between us.
i know i'm thinking too much into it(as i did with ecstasy.) What else do i need to remember while i'm tripping, and what do i need on hand.(drinks, food other supplies etc.)
thanks guys and girls.
-allelsefails-
When I trip acid, I usually want to move around quite a bit, and I can't sit in a single room... that being said, you are going to be taking a quarter hit of acid. If it's not a super strong hit, or if your hit's been overexposed to air/light/heat, you might not even make threshold...which would suck. One GOOD hit of acid is usually like 100 micrograms, and threshold, according to erowid, is like 25 mics, but no one really knows how much is on your hit except for the chemist that made it.

Stuff that's fun to have, I think - your iPod, some crayons/markers/pencils & a sketch-pad (works better than paper because you can sit it on your lap), if you're artistic at all or even just like to draw. I also got my tripping buddy a kaleidoscope for Christmas and it's pretty excellent.
Good luck and tell us how it goes.
 
Here is my opinion of the best psychedelic compounds a beginner could start with.

3. 4-AcO-DMT (~15-20mg) <-----MUCH, MUCH better choice than mushrooms for a first timer. Effects are nearly identical to mushrooms (4-HO-DMT), except there is not nearly as much ego loss/mind-fuck and it lasts like 2 hours longer. It actually seems to relax/sedate you a bit before the trip. I personally love this compound and think it would be a great starter. I don't know why (because they are so similar in chemical structure), but they are MUCH MUCH smoother than mushrooms. A lot of people I know also like it BETTER than mushrooms.

mmm....disagree with this compound for a first timer. I tried this one for the first time over the weekend, and I believe it to be a more "advanced" psychedelic than one for beginners. I actually experienced ego-lessness for my first time during my trip (though you are right about less head-fuck). I see potential for unstable individuals to lose themselves more easily than with mushrooms or the other psychedelics you mentioned. I actually found the experience to be very dissimilar to mushrooms, not even comparable (not to mention shorter than 'shrooms in my experience). I think it would be hard for a first-timer to gain insight from the experience, whereas I find mushrooms to be more grounding, although more confusing and emotional.

I think that mushrooms are great for a first-time psychedelic user, because I believe them to be a very well-rounded psychedelic with many ups and downs. Shrooms pack a punch, but you can get the full-spectrum of the psychedelic experience with 'em. Of course there's potential for unstable people to lose themselves here as well, but because the experience has a longer duration than 4-AcO-DMT, as well as a slower onset, I find it more easily integrateable. I may be biased because mushrooms were my first psychedelic.

4-AcO-DMT is very powerful, I would even be hesitant to GIVE it to someone....it seems to me like something that should be sought out. (My experience is in the trip reports section of this site, for those who are curious.)

good post though, psilocybonaut...just my 2 cents :)
 
I'd say that definitely depends on the dose. If you give a first timer say 16-19mg depending on weight and such; they'd have a calm and relaxing integration to psychedelia. Psilacetin can be a powerful compound, I've had a whooping from it at 24mg. The trip was still manageable though, came to quite a few epiphanies and some deep emotional therapy. Drugs are very dose dependent, some much more so than others.
 
Say Im losing my mind, would 1mg of xanax be enough to bring me back to reality but not kill the trip entirely?

Probably it would make things seem easier due to lessening anxiety. if you're really "out of reality" you're unlikely to know you've got benzos tho....
 
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