para-nitro-amphetamine

[Hammilton]

I'm unaware of many trials of 2C-N, zero of 3C-N and negative numbers of plain para-nitro-amphetamine. This is a little surprising because it seems as if it should be fairly easy to obtain from chloramphenicol, a widely available and naturally occuring amphetamine antibiotic.

I'm wondering if it has indeed been tested anywhere and if it retained any of the 2a affinity of 2C-N.

QUALITATIVE COMMENTS: (with 120 mg) This came on very fast--I was aware of it within a half hour, and it got as far as it would go by an hour. There are similarities to MDMA, but missing is the benign anti-stress component. I am light-headed, and there just might be a little eye wiggling. And then it dropped right off to nothing within a couple of hours.

(with 150 mg) There may have been some visual changes, I'm not sure. But the talking was extremely easy. If there were no other things to use, this would be excellent, but there are other compounds available. This doesn't have too high a priority.

(with 150 mg) Am I enjoying it? Not exactly, but I am in a good mood. There is not the light-filled energy that some other materials can provide. By six hours, pretty much baseline. Strange material, but okay. Final score: body +3, mind +2, barely.

 

[mad_scientist]

By 3C-N you mean DON? There are heaps of trials on that, trip reports on here even, was being sold in Russia as 4mg blotters for a while.

p-nitroamphetamine I've never seen a human report of, although it is reportedly an active anorectic in dogs in one of those old SAR studies. Doubt it would have much 5HT2A activity without the 2,5-dimethoxy groups, and there would be toxicity concerns about an exposed aromatic nitro group on an otherwise unsubstituted ring like that.

 

[Hammilton]

I don't know about the hepatoxicity, though. Aromatic nitro groups are used all the time in benzos, though they're generally quite potent.

edit: yes, DON. The dual terminology is annoying. Why term the simple PEAs by carbon length and not the amps? Stupid mistake, but yeah, I totally overlooked DON.

 

[egor]

I've wondered about this one for quite a while. Is it likely to see the dramatic drops in potency that seem to come when attaching a nitro to the 4 position on a phenethylamine compared to other halogens?

 

[Sturnam]

morninggloryseed had an experience with 140mg of 2C-N. Here is the link.

Sounds like he sorta had a very idiosyncratic reaction though.

 

[dread]

Why term the simple PEAs by carbon length and not the amps?

Because the 3C-compounds usually refer to the 3-carbon-mescaline analogues.

3C-P = alpha-methyl-proscaline. (4-propoxy-3,5-dimethoxy-A)
2C-P = 4-propyl-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
DOPR = 4-propyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A

 

[Hammilton]

Because the 3C-compounds usually refer to the 3-carbon-mescaline analogues.

3C-P = alpha-methyl-proscaline. (4-propoxy-3,5-dimethoxy-A)
2C-P = 4-propyl-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
DOPR = 4-propyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A

--- Which is exactly what DON is. Not sure what your point was.

 

[butane]

The point was the substitution pattern of the methoxy groups. 3C = 3,5-dimethoxy while 2C and DO indicate 2,5-dimethoxy.

Although 3C-G-x series is an exception to this. Shulgin's naming seems rather inconsistent.

 

[Hammilton]

Shulgin's naming seems rather inconsistent.

Yeah, no kidding, though IIRC, the DOx's were pre-shulgin, no?

 

[hamhurricane]

I'm pretty certain shulgin invented the DOx with DOM being the first, it sort of makes logical sense in his progression from mescaline ->TMA->DOM with MEM somewhere in there.