10 week old given ecstasy

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Baby given ecstasy released from hospital to parents


The parents accused of giving a 10-week-old baby girl half an ecstasy tablet took the infant home from hospital after facing court.

The Victorian couple, from Gippsland and holidaying in far north Queensland with friends, were freed on bail after appearing in Cairns Magistrate's Court charged with grievous bodily harm.

They stood accused of giving the girl part of an ecstasy tablet, causing violent fits which nearly killed the infant when her heart stopped on Sunday.

The girl was taken to Cairns Base Hospital in a critical condition and placed in an induced coma in intensive care.

The father, 24, and mother, 22, who cannot be identified under Queensland child protection laws, appeared in court yesterday with their heads bowed and visibly shaken.

The young mum fought back tears as she faced the magistrate but neither of the pair was required to plead and they said nothing as they stood charged with one count each of grievous bodily harm and possessing a dangerous drug.

No details of the case were read out to the court by the police prosecutor.

Police would allege it was a "negligent" and "not a deliberate act", a Queensland police spokeswoman said outside court.

Magistrate Rob Spencer excused the couple from attending their next committal mention on February 3. Dressed neatly and trying to hide their faces, the couple fled court and returned to the hospital where they had maintained a vigil by their daughter's side.

They were interviewed by Child Safety officers before the child, who is reportedly in a stable condition, was released from hospital into their care.

Queensland Child Safety Department director-general Norelle Deeth last night defended the decision to let the child return to the couple.

She said she was unable to discuss specific cases.

But, she said: "The safety and wellbeing of a child is the number one priority for the Department of Child Safety.

"In making assessments such as these, the department consults with inter-agency professionals including police, pediatricians and other health experts.

"These professionals inform the department's assessment of the potential future risk of harm, taking into consideration the particular circumstances surrounding a matter.

"In cases such as these where families reside in other jurisdictions, the department will work closely with other relevant agencies to ensure the safety of the child and will provide support to the family."

Paramedics went to Behan St, Manunda, about 10.30am on Sunday, about 90 minutes after the baby suffered a seizure.

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24881264-953,00.html
 
I feel bad for the parents. They were most likely rolling face when they did this and just wanted the kid to have a good time.....
 
Surely you jest. I would have no objection to their being tried for attempted murder.
 
Fjones said:
Surely you jest. I would have no objection to their being tried for attempted murder.
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well since it was a fucking accident i dont see how it would be attempted murder some people are just as gung ho on locking people up as the pigs who arrest them and the scumbag prosecutors that work day and night to put people in cages.

good thing theres grand jurys and shit so people like you dont go with your stupid moral standards and go hey lets try to charge these people with attempted fucking murder. i cant believe some of the people who post on here.....
 
It's not a "moral judgment" to say that someone who knowingly gives an infant an illicit substance should be tried for attempted murder. That baby could have died and will likely suffer some form of brain damage from not only the ecstasy but the induced coma they had to put her in to save her. People look down on child molesters so badly, but give a baby a potent illegal drug that still hasn't been proven to be non-neurotoxic in healthy ADULTS and you should get off the hook? Please. That baby had no say in whether she took the drug, and it was a CHOICE on the part of the parents to give it to her, and when they did, she almost died. Kinda hard to feel sorry for them (or have any sympathy at all toward them).

People should have to pass a test before reproducing.
 
It's only attempted murder if they knew it was likely to kill the baby. You'd think that would be obvious, but maybe not.
I'm not suggesting what should be done either way. I'm glad I don't have to make the decisions on the future of this child.
 
like someone said they were probably rolling and retardedly gave the baby a piece of a pill. the child should be taken away i would belive, but i think attempted murder would mean you had the intent to murder not stupily while under the influence of the drug give the child some.
 
tripmonkey505 said:
like someone said they were probably rolling and retardedly gave the baby a piece of a pill. the child should be taken away i would belive, but i think attempted murder would mean you had the intent to murder not stupily while under the influence of the drug give the child some.
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Unless Australian laws are very different, the fact that they were intoxicated is irrelevant.

The intent of the action is actually irrelevant here- if they were doing something that an average person would realize had a realistic chance of causing death, they are guilty of attempted murder.

And what the fuck, they paramedics were called 90 MINUTES after the baby had a seizure?

Last night my baby rolled over for the first time (months early, I might add) and fell about 2 feet onto soft carpet. He cried for two minutes then went back to sleep. I immediately woke him and he had a big smile on his face and started laughing when I stuck my tounge out at him. What did I do? I got the fuck to the hospital within 20 minutes (long enough to call an ER nurse for any immediate first aid). He checked out totally normal, still doing everything he had been doing (not to brag, but he's continuing to roll over, repeats faces I make, clicks his tounge in response to me doing the same, is tracking objects, grabbing for toys, whacking toys- everything 2-4 months early according to the doc. His doc said he's the most advanced baby she's had in 20 years. He's also an idiot who cries at nothing, and hasn't figured out how to change his diaper yet :( ;))

What sort of parent could be that fucking negligent? I don't even hold my kid for two hours after I take my suboxone so he doesn't accidentally ingest ANY buprenorphine.
 
tripmonkey505 said:
well since it was a fucking accident i dont see how it would be attempted murder some people are just as gung ho on locking people up as the pigs who arrest them and the scumbag prosecutors that work day and night to put people in cages.

good thing theres grand jurys and shit so people like you dont go with your stupid moral standards and go hey lets try to charge these people with attempted fucking murder. i cant believe some of the people who post on here.....
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Huh!? I am not in favor of locking a lot of people up frivilously. If anything, the oppositte is true. I do not appreciate your nasty personal attack.

I did not realize this was an accident. How exactly does this kind of thing happen "accidentally?" If it was indeed a true accident, then I was mistaken, boviously an attempted murder charge is uncalled for. But their actions were exceedlingly negligent. Some charges should be filed and I do not have any sympathy for the parents.
 
There seems to be a contradiction in the article. I cannot tell if the parents gave the baby the tablet or if the baby found it lying around and ate it.

This would seem to imply that the parents GAVE the tablet to the baby:

"The parents accused of giving a 10-week-old baby girl half an ecstasy tablet took the infant home from hospital after facing court."

This makes it appear otherwise:
"Police would allege it was a "negligent" and "not a deliberate act", a Queensland police spokeswoman said outside court."

Although, that could just mean that they did not intend to harm the baby but did intend to give it the tablet.

Tripmonkey, if you know something I don't, please enlighten me. I don't understand how you have concluded with certainty that it was an accident and then branded me a horrible person as a result of that conclusion.
 
Sorry, you don't understand. A ten week old baby is not capable of self administering anything. At that age they cannot crawl and can barely hold big things in their hands, much less pick up a tiny pill and put it in their mouth.
 
Fjones said:
There seems to be a contradiction in the article. I cannot tell if the parents gave the baby the tablet or if the baby found it lying around and ate it.

This would seem to imply that the parents GAVE the tablet to the baby:

"The parents accused of giving a 10-week-old baby girl half an ecstasy tablet took the infant home from hospital after facing court."

This makes it appear otherwise:
"Police would allege it was a "negligent" and "not a deliberate act", a Queensland police spokeswoman said outside court."

Although, that could just mean that they did not intend to harm the baby but did intend to give it the tablet.

Tripmonkey, if you know something I don't, please enlighten me. I don't understand how you have concluded with certainty that it was an accident and then branded me a horrible person as a result of that conclusion.
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I confused?
Well kids are getting into drug younger and younger these days i heard of a kid getting fed magic mushrooms when he was 6 years old i seen that mind drunk when we was in 20's fuck hate to see this.
 
People like this give ecstasy a bad (or worse) name

like said before
some people just shouldnt be allowed to have children
 
From what I understand, they had the pill in a medication bottle, and they thought they were giving the baby panadol or something (ie to bring down a fever.)
 
^While they didn't intend to give it to the baby, thats still a most unbelievably stupid and negligent thing to do, getting your class a drugs mixed up with the baby's medication. Surely if you have children in the house your narcotics are kept somewhere the child will never be within 10 feet of no matter what? Or how about not having drugs in the house at all. Still I'm sure it was a horrific accident on their part, sympathies go out.
 
I agree. Also think it's weird they would give a baby that young a tablet -surely at that age you would use a liquid preparation? I suppose we won't know the full story until after the court case.
 
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