Teenager dies of 'net drug' overdose (mephedrone)

re: PMA

in this mephedrone thread: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=409856

rangrz: PMA is very different for different people.

Some people get stimulation and slight MDXX like effects after an hour or so, then even think it is MDMA and take more.. these people end up in trouble.

But others for example can tolerate it much more.

My body completely destroys it and im on no medication. I took 60mg x 6 caps one night just trying to get a feeling other than a crappy groggyy drunk feeling. ending up falling asleep after a few drinks with about feeling as much toxic feelings as drinking a tea withj a shot of whiskey in it.....

Its dangerous, and so is 4-MMC. Any para substituted cathinones/amphetamines are just trouble. I don't know why PMMA is more tolerable on people (its in a lot of pills as a byproduct)
 
Its dangerous, and so is 4-MMC. Any para substituted cathinones/amphetamines are just trouble. I don't know why PMMA is more tolerable on people (its in a lot of pills as a byproduct)
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This is just absolutely not true.

para alkyloxy or alkyllthio substituted amps and cathinones probably will be very dangerous, but para-alkyl (not dangerous) or para-halogen (still dangerous, but not quite as bad) are not to be worried about much.

The reason why the alkoxy and alkylthio's are so dangerous is because they function both as Monoamine releasers but also as very strong MAOIs. See the problem?
 
Hammilton said:
This is just absolutely not true.

para alkyloxy or alkyllthio substituted amps and cathinones probably will be very dangerous, but para-alkyl (not dangerous) or para-halogen (still dangerous, but not quite as bad) are not to be worried about much.

The reason why the alkoxy and alkylthio's are so dangerous is because they function both as Monoamine releasers but also as very strong MAOIs. See the problem?
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It's also worth noting that the entire 2C series (excepting 2C-H) and the DOX series are para substituted.

And mescaline has a 4-methoxy(!) group as well.

There's so much more you neglect with comments like that.
 
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agreed... I hate people who assume an that some vague feature in a molecule must make them all the same.

I get it with florocarbon anestetics...everyones all "omg teh duster/refrigerant gas, is bad!!!!111!oneone!!!eleven"
 
why do you guys like doing all these stoopid ass stimulant RC's? Like if I wanna feel stimulated ill just go out sober, Don't people do drugs to relax and kick back? I never understood why you would wanna go get a drug that gets you all wired up and shit.. what an awful feeling - stimulants - barf..

I just don't understand, well i guess it's better for this epidemic to happen cuz then it will put pressure on the substances on this earth that ARE actually IN FACT BAD FOR YOU/Your Health. And take pressure off the healing herbs of this world
 
JahRed24x said:
why do you guys like doing all these stoopid ass stimulant RC's? Like if I wanna feel stimulated ill just go out sober, Don't people do drugs to relax and kick back? I never understood why you would wanna go get a drug that gets you all wired up and shit.. what an awful feeling - stimulants - barf..

I just don't understand, well i guess it's better for this epidemic to happen cuz then it will put pressure on the substances on this earth that ARE actually IN FACT BAD FOR YOU/Your Health. And take pressure off the healing herbs of this world
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you would probably be singing a different tune if you ever tried this drug
 
JahRed24x said:
why do you guys like doing all these stoopid ass stimulant RC's? Like if I wanna feel stimulated ill just go out sober, Don't people do drugs to relax and kick back? I never understood why you would wanna go get a drug that gets you all wired up and shit.. what an awful feeling - stimulants - barf..
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A counter to that would be: Why do people like depressants? Who wants to feel all drowsy and monged out?
 
Does anyone else think it smells of seafood like it says in this article? Maybe I have an old batch but alike to a guy wrote on erowid, it smells more like electical circuit boards. I wish there was some decent evidence stating the amount she took.
 
Who said i feel drowsy and "Moonged" out? Swim does drugs to relax and kick back and just take it easy, let your problems float away for a bit. I just like the "depressants" which dont actually make you feel TIRED if you use them, they make you feel happy, good, relax, some help you get good sleep and other like the herb add a different mix to the experiences. I dunno im just saying swims always enjoyed stuff like opiates, benzos, good ganja, and other various herbs you guys wouldnt be interested in probably. Now im not an opiate addict i havent done any opiates like OC, hydrcodone, stuff like that in bout 4months. So im just saying those are the drugs swim enjoys when he does wanna kick back and feel good, plus opiates make u feel like everything is perfect and your in heaven. i dunno just diferent things for different peepz.
 
hahaha swim^

trying to explain something, or prove a point using swim makes me lolz

we don't use swim on BL
 
^FractalDancer - never thought it smelt like seafood, got some that was slightly yellow and smelt like speed (cats piss lol) and had another batch from a different supplier that was white and had no noticable odour.

Hope this and other bk's aren't banned to soon in the uk after this!
 
JahRed24x said:
why do you guys like doing all these stoopid ass stimulant RC's? Like if I wanna feel stimulated ill just go out sober, Don't people do drugs to relax and kick back? I never understood why you would wanna go get a drug that gets you all wired up and shit.. what an awful feeling - stimulants - barf..

I just don't understand, well i guess it's better for this epidemic to happen cuz then it will put pressure on the substances on this earth that ARE actually IN FACT BAD FOR YOU/Your Health. And take pressure off the healing herbs of this world
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lol @ swim. I think people do drugs because they want to feel different, it's not a question of depressants or stimulants, they all produce some type of euphoria just in a different package. It's all about your preferences. Some people are naturally lethargic and prefer stims, some people are naturally hyper and on the edge and prefer depressants. Others dabble in all areas of the lets-modify-our-brain-chemistry spectrum. Like I said, all about the preferences.
 
JahRed24x said:
Who said i feel drowsy and "Moonged" out?
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No-one. Although them make other users feel that way. 0.5mg of Xanax and it's "Hello tomorrow" for me! :)

In the same way that stimulants don't make everyone feel wired...

i dunno just diferent things for different peepz.
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Exactly.
 
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this drug is buff, its shiny and lush.it feels like the rush of coke the relaxation of mdma and the calm hapiness of alcohol. when a gram binge finishes i feel tripped out and see things.

it has a wierd sense of peace with the world that i only get wheni'm tripping
 
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