Oxycodone & Hydrocodone

[javsav]

I mean taking 2x 5mg pills = 10mg? is it really that simple to measure dosages like that (for opiate based medicine)?

Yeah dude.. why wouldn't it be..

 

[Mr Blonde]

My mum just got out ov hospital, I had a look at her meds, she has endone 5mg, how do I use for recreation? I have no opiate tolerance, do I ingest them? if not, how many should I crush and slam to feel good?

For oxycodone, most people recommend between 10-20mg for a first timer with no opioid tolerance. Please, do not take your mother's medication if she needs them.

Also, do not inject pills! Injecting pills over the long term can lead to circulatory and cardiovascular problems from the binders and fillers building up in your system, and a missed shot with pills is far worse then with other substances, i.e. it is far more likely to develop an abscess and amputation can and has resulted from this. If you are ever going to inject anything from a pill, it has to be filtered multiple times through a wheel/micron filter and you cannot miss. I do not recommend it.

 

[Liltoker]

I know we def have oxy's round here as i tryed a OxyNorm 10mg the other day, was a small capsule. Pretty good i might add, 10mg seems to be a good starting dose.

 

[Modulus]

Even after using a micron filter, there is no fucking way i'd shoot a pill.

In saying that though, i wouldn't shoot anything, but if i did, it certainly wouldn't be a pill thats for sure.

 

[electicdoe]

Is hydromorphone prescribed in Australia?

***Edit: No availability discussion. - Mr Blonde***

 

[johnnyonelove]

Even after using a micron filter, there is no fucking way i'd shoot a pill.

In saying that though, i wouldn't shoot anything, but if i did, it certainly wouldn't be a pill thats for sure.

beside the OD potential, i think its actually quiet safe to shoot oxycontin passed through a micron filter. not even bacteria can pass through a .22 micron filter, and besides the oxycodone, few ingredients are water soluble, and these are of little concern.

 

[rolls]

not even bacteria can pass through a .22 micron filter,

Yes but the binders are slightly water soluble, also I'd imagine an entire cell would be a fuckload bigger then a single binder molecule.

 

[Depone]

plenty oxy's over here in perth.

used to be alot more popular though, i think its one of these things people start on.

over time oxy's dont do it anymore and it makes more sense to use homebake or greys....i found my tollerence to them went up really fast and it would take 3 80's to get where i wanted to be...which was expensive even though i was gettin em cheap.

so glad i dont have to deal with that shit anymore!

 

[Depone]

best way to bang em up is wipe off the coating with a swab, put into spoon, add 1ml water, warm spoon till water almost bubbles, tab should be squishy now...push down tab with end of sterile plunger to bottom of the spoon, heat till that squashed skin of tab floats to top...add a rollie ciggarette filter ripped into a quarter into mix and draw up through this.

should draw up clear.

 

[p i l l s]

Seen plenty of the oxy range here in S.A Australia. Mates got tones of the oxy 80's at his and even ive got a good few oxy80's in my draw. Never have tried one though.

 

[Tortoise]

Wow. how could you possibly resist??

 

[Mr Blonde]

best way to bang em up is wipe off the coating with a swab, put into spoon, add 1ml water, warm spoon till water almost bubbles, tab should be squishy now...push down tab with end of sterile plunger to bottom of the spoon, heat till that squashed skin of tab floats to top...add a rollie ciggarette filter ripped into a quarter into mix and draw up through this.

should draw up clear.

That is ridiculously bad advice. Shooting pills is bad enough, but you should never heat up the solution; it allows more binders and fillers to dissolve which is not what you want.

If anyone reading this is considering shooting pills, just remember that if you miss the risks of developing an effection or abscess and having complications (e.g. amputation) are increased. Long term shooting of pills can lead to circulatory system problems. And if you are going to do this, a micron filter is a must.

 

[Mr Blonde]

Ha, sounds like a good story...?

 

[ilikeacid]

Ever since I broke my spine from a tramadol induced seizure 11 weeks ago I have been struggling to get my mind off oxys. At one time oxycontin 20mg scripts, 10mg oxycontin scripts, one oxynorm 10mg script and one 20mg oxynorm script.

At one point I could snort a half a pack of 20mg oxycontin in a day!

As the weeks went on the doctors wanted to decline my use of oxy's for obvious reasons but by this time I was well and truly hooked.

Oxy addiction sucks, all I can think about is how to get my hands on more and the only thing which can put an end to my addiction is my own willpower. My nievity of the power of oxys was my downfall.. For all my knowledge of the dangers of opioid addiction I walked into the place I'm in at the moment with my eyes closed...

***Edit: Please Don't incriminate yourself. - Mr Blonde***

 

[tadfish]

Fuck tramadol victim i sorry to hear that thats fucked fuckin doctors even IV tramadol doesn't work for hours its a shit stoned painkiller.
endone don't u love when ya family comes back from hospital and u find there box of 5mg oxys and u eat the box and say fuck i used to 80mg tablets.

Fuck thats an intense seizure ilikeacid fuck how much u take? did u mix it with anything.
fuckin tramadol!

 

[ilikeacid]

^ I ate 3 100mg tramadol slow release tablets but I crushed them so they didn't act as slow release. I drove to uni, walked down to the library and then woke up with paramedics around me after having a seizure. Apparently I threw myself into a bookshelf or something which is how I fractured my spine..

I was using Tramadol to ease withdrawls from G.. I ended up getting hooked on oxys, now I have two habits to deal with

 

[drug_mentor]

Funny I actually got my hands on 20mg oxycontins on thursday just passed, can't get anymore unfortunately. Until thursday I had never come across this shit but was very familiar with what it was.
It isn't bad I have got to say I wish I could get more. Its funny because in America it seems cheaper to just get smack but I found this one time deal on oxy to work out much cheaper than smack are other peoples experiences similar?
Is this shit more common in circles of opiate users than I thought? I was of the opinion oxy was basicsally unheard of here which is why I jumped on it. I certainly haven't known too many people to have even heard about it let alone try it or be able to supply it but I run in more dope smoking/amphetamine taking circles with the odd trip thrown in with little to no opiate use going on.
I would be very interested in getting more of this shit, I reckon some people could make alot of money of this shit bringing it mainstream like in america.

 

[ilikeacid]

llegal drug sales booming on web

Wednesday, 2 March 2005 Francois Murphy
Reuters
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Unlicensed online pharmacies are the new drug traffickers, says the UN (Image: iStockphoto)
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Illegal drug sales on the internet are booming as unlicensed online pharmacies selling drugs like morphine evade a patchy global effort to stop them, says the United Nations narcotics watchdog.

In its 2004 annual report released today, the UN's International Narcotics Control Board (INCB) says internet pharmacies sell several billion doses of medicine illicitly each year and deliver them by post, making them an alternative drug-trafficking route.

"They are really taking the place of traditional drug traffickers," says INCB president Hamid Ghodse, adding it was a growing problem.

The vast majority of drugs sales by online pharmacies involve internationally controlled narcotics and so-called psychotropic substances, which act on the mind, the INCB says.

Of those, around 90% are sold without the required prescription.

"Billions of [doses of] controlled substances, some of them highly potent drugs such as oxycodone, which is equivalent to morphine, and fentanyl, which is many times stronger than morphine, are sold by unlicensed internet pharmacies," he adds.

These pharmacies blur the distinction between licit and illicit drugs by offering prescription medication to all customers alongside over-the-counter products like food supplements, the INCB says.

They also posed a risk to children, the INCB says.

"The illicit trade over the internet has been identified as one of the major sources for prescription medications abused by children and adolescents in certain countries such as the US," the INCB report says.

Legal suppliers are fuelling the illicit trade by providing unlicensed internet pharmacies with many of the drugs they sell, and national authorities should do more to stop them, it adds.

"Since most of these pharmacies deal with brand products obtained from established and recognised suppliers, authorities responsible for the control of these suppliers can effectively prevent shipments to unlicensed internet pharmacies," it says.

Countries to watch

While some countries are willing to cooperate in investigating illicit shipments from their territory, others need to do better, it says.

For example, the report says Pakistan has not investigated some illegal shipments from its shores.

In North America, the abuse or misuse of prescription drugs appears to be on the rise, the INCB says.

Another source of concern is Iraq, where a lack of political stability could prove fertile for drug trafficking.

"The drug situation in Iraq may deteriorate further because of the disintegration of the drug control structure in the country, given its geographical location and the current political and economic instability," the INCB says.

Buying over the internet

For information on how to find reliable information about medical products on the internet, download a factsheet from the website of Australia's drug regulatory body, the Therapeutic Goods Administration.

As far as I'm aware it is very easy to get medications such as oxycontin shipped from os at very cheap prices. I would not be surprised if that is where most of the oxycontin sold on the street is sourced from.

 

[ilikeacid]

'Hillbilly heroin' makes its mark on Australian streets

Posted Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:34am AEST
Updated Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:36am AEST
Doctor shopping: dealers rove from surgery to surgery conning doctors.

Doctor shopping: dealers rove from surgery to surgery conning doctors. (ABC News: Giulio Saggin, file photo)

There are any number of illegal drugs on Australian streets at any one time, but a relative newcomer, known as 'hillbilly heroin', is becoming more popular - subsidised by taxpayers.

There are increasing fears that the use of drugs such as oxycodone is growing and becoming a serious problem in Australia.

Oxycodone and similar drugs such as morphine are restricted and only available by prescription, but ABC Radio's AM program has discovered the legitimate market is being rorted by drug dealers.

Twenty-two-year-old Steven - not his real name - moved to Sydney from the United States several years ago.

He brought with him an addiction to the painkiller oxycodone, which is mostly sold under the brand name OxyContin.

In the United States drugs like OxyContin and morphine, usually sold as MS Contin, are widespread. They are called 'hillbilly heroin'.

However when Steven got to Australia, he initially found it hard to find them. But he says that situation changed very quickly.

"I knew that it was prescribed here, but it just wasn't very prevalent. Over the time since getting here, it became more and more, and I heard about it and finally found people selling it down in Melbourne.

"It has become much more prevalent and people do know what it is now and it is definitely growing."

In the United States, the abuse of oxycodone and morphine is rampant and they cause large numbers of overdose deaths.

In Australia, the drugs are restricted and obtainable only with a prescription from a doctor in cases of severe pain.

But there are strong indications the illegal use of these drugs is increasing in Australia. The Australian Crime Commission's recent Illicit Drug Data Report stated morphine use was rising in Queensland and the ACT.

The director of Sydney's Medically Supervised Injecting Centre, Dr Ingrid Van Beek, says she noticed a change about two years ago.

"Of course these medications have always been injected over the years by injecting drug users, but it was about two years ago that we started to see quite a significant increase."

On average around 220 people use the centre each day. Dr Van Beek says now up to 45 per cent of these people report using either oxycodone or morphine.

They get them from people like Sammy, a longtime drug dealer in Sydney's Kings Cross.

He says oxycodone and morphine are more popular than heroin.

"Heroin only holds you for four hours before it starts coming out of your system; where oxycodone or morphine sulphate holds you for 48 hours and one is cheaper than the other," he said.

Sammy gets his supply by what he calls 'doctor shopping' - that is roving from surgery to surgery conning doctors into believing he needs the drugs for medicinal purposes.

"They'd give me what I needed because I looked respectable. If I went in with tracksuit pants and a t-shirt and an Adidas jacket or something like that you know, typical bogan basically, then they would have had second thoughts about prescribing them to me," he said.

Sammy show he has dozens of used packets of OxyContin and MS Contin that he obtained doctor shopping.

These were often bought for less than $5 for a packet of 20 tablets - a price subsidised by the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme.

Dr Andrew Byrne is an addiction specialist operating out of Redfern in inner-city Sydney. He says almost all of his patients now report using either oxycodone or morphine, often to the exclusion of heroin.

He says it is far too easy to obtain legal drugs for illegal purposes.

"Given that the doctor doesn't believe that the patient is a drug addict, the doctor is allowed to write a prescription for strong opiate drugs at any quantity and with any number of repeats that they feel is appropriate," he said.

Dr Byrne says it is effectively an illegal drug trade subsidised by the taxpayer.

Based on a report by Michael Edwards for AM.

That was the article I was searching for. As you said drug mentor oxys haven't been showing up in many drug circles as of yet but I predict in the months and years to come this trend will change

 

[muik]

I had a car accident at the start of August and have been getting prescriptions for Endone and 40 mg Oxy's, and will be getting these for the foreseeable future, wouldnt say there any goof for recreational use, I have no opiate history and dont get much of a buzz from chewing 3-4 oxys and a couple of endone on top, but meds do work differently on different people, starting to build up a tolerance now though, so I might have to go up to the 80 mg oxys soon.