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BZP Free Party Pills- LU "Grooves" safe?

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Panda87

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I was wondering if anyone had tried the BZP Free pills called "Grooves". The ingredients are listed as: Synthetic equivalent of standardized Geranium oil extract standardised to 0.02%. Poppy seed. Magnesium Sterate,
Dicalcium Phosphate.

Has anyone had these and actual pills in the same night? Any idea if it's safe? Would love some idea about what to expect; I hear any more than 2 in one night can leave you with a killer come down the next day.
 
for the best effect of any drug you should really stick to one substance, sometimes mixing substaqnces that have the different actions on neurotransmitters can lead to neuro toxicity and much worse comedown,

be safe stick to the one substance...... its much better for your health compared to mixing
 
Panda87 said:
Synthetic equivalent of standardized Geranium oil extract standardised to 0.02%.
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That sounds like 1,3-dimethylamine. There may be some information online about it but there isn't much if I recall. It's a stimulant and I believe rm2x has some experience with it... care to share?
 
Yeah, they're 1,3-DMAA. Come in 4-packs where I get them for a pretty decent price given their effects. They're not overly powerful, and certainly not a substitute for an actual E, and I wouldn't mix them. But they're still rather lovely on their own :)
 
Hey Dude,

I've tried Groove on two occasions now. The first time I shared the 3 pills with my girlfriend at home, having 1.5 each. Honestly, I had quite a good time. Felt very spacey, very floaty. A nice euphoric rush. Some difficulty sleeping...tending to have some hallucinations in the dark room.

Second time I had them I had 3 to myself at a small party. Kinda different effects to last time, floaty, but extremely smacked out. We watched train spotting at one stage, and to me, the effects I were feeling was what I was imagining heroin to be like. Laying on the floor, high as fuck, with no energy to move at all. I do remember a little nausea this time as well.

After coming down off the first two, I decided to have another 1.5. Big mistake. This made me feel quite ill. Didn't get the same effects, just felt fucking shit house. Had a fair bit of trouble getting to sleep again. In the morning when I woke up, I was the sickest I had ever been. Felt like I had food poisoning of some sort. Had the runs, throwing up, and burping this awful sulfur tasting burp (no word of a lie..It was like burping up a fart). I was also having mild hallucinations all day..nothing huge..just a mild wavy pattern on the floor/walls.

Would I recommend them to you? No..I wouldn't touch herbal shit again. Too many bad experiences. If I were your doctor, I'd prescribe you with 2 - 3 Med - High MDMA pills. Seriously...'Legal' high doesn't mean 'Safe' high.
 
That sounds like 1,3-dimethylamine.
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Not quite. Dimethylamine exists, but no-one in their right mind would want to take it. It has an absolutely ghastly suffocating odour and is a nasty toxin.

DMAA = 1,3-dimethylamylamine
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Yeh 1,3-dimethylamylamine is readily and cheaply available from certain nutrition/bodybuilding sites. For user reports, experiences, and whatnot you might find more information on those types of forums as it has been around for quite some time; just targetting a different market. It is the main ingredient in a weightloss product called "AMP" ,along with caffeine and chocoamine.
 
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Mr Blonde said:
There may be some information online about it but there isn't much if I recall. It's a stimulant and I believe rm2x has some experience with it... care to share?
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No worries.

It's pretty boring lol

But in saying that, it has also given me pretty good rushes and a bit of euphoria in the past.
 
belarki said:
Yeh 1,3-dimethylamylamine is readily and cheaply available from certain nutrition/bodybuilding sites. For user reports, experiences, and whatnot you might find more information on those types of forums as it has been around for quite some time; just targetting a different market. It is the main ingredient in a weightloss product called "AMP" (http://www.ergopharm.net/), along with caffeine and chocoamine.
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Ahhh AMP, little red caps that smell like chocolate jam rolls lol
It's an interesting supplement, AMP2 is out now, have no idea what it's like though.

I prefer Endorush myself as it's instant.
 
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phase dancer said:
Not quite. Dimethylamine exists, but no-one in their right mind would want to take it. It has an absolutely ghastly suffocating odour and is a nasty toxin.

DMAA = 1,3-dimethylamylamine
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Ah... good thing I didn't try to buy any dimethylamine then. ;)

I thought the name sounded wrong, but I couldn't remember exactly what it was.
 
rm2x said:
Ahhh AMP, little red caps that smell like chocolate jam rolls lol
It's an interesting supplement, AMP2 is out now, have no idea what it's like though.

I prefer Endorush myself as it's instant.
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MMmm I'll have to try endorush. The reports I read on AMP2 seemed to universally imply "toxic" so I might give it a miss. Yeh sorry for the sources Mr Blonde, the link was only intended for product information but I guess they're a supplier too, my mistake.
 
Yeah try it mate, it's amazing! Good to see someone else into their sports sups ;)
AMP2 has Fursultiamine, which is a thiamin derivitive, it's probably just a renamed Sulbutiamine which is in Biotest Spike. I don't like it very much, it made everything I did taste and smell like Vitamin B and cracked me out.
You can buy sulbutiamine pretty cheaply by itself anyway, just add some caffeine and you've got Spike lol

But yeah, try Endorush mate, it's insane, my friend slammed 2/3rds of a bottle and got eye wiggles from it!
 
I dropped all four and at first I felt happy, upbeat, floaty and all round good.

After 2 hours of this it peaked Then I started sweating, then came a headache then I started vomiting this acid like fizz. . . I lay on my bed with probably the worst feeling I have ever had!

Headache and MASSIVE toxic feeling well into the next day and had too take work off.
Really I felt poisoned and I remember thinking if chemo threapy feels worse than this I would kill myself.

After seven years of trying everything including strings of RC's, sniffing glue pretty much everything under the sun, it was easily the worst.
 
iv mixed legal BZP free party pills with proper pills lol.. to me it actually didnt feel much differnt :S.. i felt the party pill then wen i started taken the normal pills the party pill feeling just wore completly off.. although my face was purple and so was my frends who also mixed them it looked as if all the blood in out bodys had went to out faces lol.. no uncomfortable feelings or nothing tho
 
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