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Intramuscular 2C-E

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I had come home from a party and I decided I would end the night with some 2c-e. One of my best friends A, and a fellow psychonaut decided to watch me do it out of curiosity and boredom. So I prepared the 20mg shot and proceeded to inject it into my left shoulder. I put down the needle, capped it, and was talking to A for a couple minutes when I noticed the visual distortion start. Needless to say the come up time was amazingly fast, which I certainly wasn't complaining about. The visuals began with the signature warping growing in intensity rapidly. After a few more minutes I was getting full blown visual bombardment. My arm was heavy and sore from the injection and was an annoyance but easily tolerable, won't make the same mistake next time.

Throughout the night as it increased in intensity I experienced a few new sensations that I had no previously gotten on 2c-e. I talked with A about many a thing throughout the night but I noticed that as we were talking I would interpret A's questions and responses in different levels of depth. And the depth of my interpretation would be erratically jumping at anytime. Like he might have been talking about something menial and I would go into huge trains of deep thought into the nature of the subject. It’s a bit more complex but probably can’t explain it any better.

I had a bowl of weed just before the peak, to mitigate the uncomfortable body load; I wasn’t sure at times if I was actually feeling nauseous or just some weird uncomfortable feeling in the stomach. But the weed worked to lessen whatever it was. I also felt as though everything had a strong and very fast vibration,

At the peak I felt as though I was merging into the "Stream" of the universe, No ++++ mind you but I imagine it was a tiny taste of it. My whole field of visual became like a wave of visuals, all in synch like a river, and my body felt like it was suspended in water, flowing involuntarily with the waves of visuals. I would look on my monitor and as I attempted to move my mouse around flicking through songs the trails of the mouse created jewels that would jump out into my field of vision, almost like looking at a night sky and having very large stars just pop up. Music was quite intense, I would play a very psychedelic song and the visuals would step up a notch and I get lost in the song and waves of patterns and colours.

As I attempted to explain to A what the visuals were kind of like, I said that each movement or object left a border for each frame in which it moved, if that makes any sense, but it was not like trails that are merely delayed, where each small border has the previous imagine side by side, but in each border the action would constantly repeat so it was like a huge overlay of actions and movement. Also everything had small multiple outlines, a triple edge as a friend has called it, and it extends outwards and repeats. It makes everything seem very vibrant.

At the peak my memory also began to dwindle slightly, in both the ‘Huh...What was I saying?’ weed way and the traditional psychedelic *having thousands of thoughts a second on something and then completely losing the original thought or point*. At times it felt like I would get sidetracked so much during a conversation that when A reminded me of the original point it felt as though I was going back in time in a sense. Almost as though in the whole sidetracked conversation no time had passed and it was as though I was playing a conversation scenario out in my head or something.

I took the shot at 1:30am, by about 6:30am I started to come down. Tried to sleep at 7ish am. Fell asleep somewhere around 8am I think. Woke up at 11am feeling tired but back to baseline and fine mostly.

I think I may have experienced some instances of synaesthesia but I can’t really remember/pinpoint them.

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As I attempted to explain to A what the visuals were kind of like, I said that each movement or object left a border for each frame in which it moved, if that makes any sense, but it was not like trails that are merely delayed, where each small border has the previous imagine side by side, but in each border the action would constantly repeat so it was like a huge overlay of actions and movement.
A beautiful description of 2C-E's visual effects. This resonates muchly with my experience of 2C-E (typically at around 25 mg, oral). I don't know whether this is particularly a feature of 2C-E rather than, at the right dose, something that would be produced by other 2Cs or indeed tryptamine psychedelics; but for me, at the doses I have tried, psilocin/psilocybin-as-shrooms (which I've had at what I'd consider, intensity-wise, doses way above the effects of 25 mg 2C-E, quantitatively) has never produced true trails (temporal blurring of visual motion); whereas 2C-B (at 25 mg) does produce trails, but not the sort of special trails you describe here; and 2C-E has, at 25 mg oral, produced precisely these sort of special trails for me... assuming I've understood your description correctly...

So let's check I've understood correctly... the way I've thought about it is that 2C-E's trails are like 2C-B raised to the power of 2C-B. Or to put it another way, take normal perception, apply 2C-B's transform to that, apply 2C-B's transform to the transformed perception, and repeat ad infinitum. To put it yet another way, the trails were recursive, with bigger trials having littler trails upon their backs to bite them. I'd also say that this recursive echo may have affected not only visual perception but also oculomotor efference and proprioception, and possibly even cognition (though it's quite possible that my cognition was merely reflecting on the sensory recursion going on, rather than experiencing recursive distortion itself).

Does that chime with what you were describing, or have I missed the point?

Assuming this isn't just an idiosyncratic experience, does anyone know if this is unique to (or more typical of) 2C-E, or would - say - 2C-B at the right dose produce similarly recursive trails?
 
I find 2C-E is to be unique in the type of visual effect it has regarding recursion... everything about the state is fractal (not just the visuals). 2C-E is amazing that way... I find it extremely structured and mathematical.
 
It's become my favorite 2C-X. I have 2C-C and 2C-N left to try though.
 
thats almost the exact way i would describe my visuals on 2ce. its the only 2cx i've tried. everything moves back and forth and around but its not really like its moving or expanding like acid. its like if you're looking at a picture frame on the wall. you see one kind of to the left sideways, and at a different depth level, then you see the same frame to the right sideways at a further distance than the first one, and you see other frames at all kinds of other angles with movement and vibrations and colours interacting between them all.

need more 2ce...
 
I love 2c-e had about 5-15mg many times i want to break through and do a 20+mg dose.
its a great drug you got energy you got slight trippy md feelings. you can feel though u could have a bad trip if something went wrong. goes well with methylone.
report back later
good report
 
Great report! My experience is mainly in the tryptamine category, but my few journeys into the phenethylamine world always produce a very peculiar emotional state. I did 16 mg 2C-E on three occasions, unknown 2C-X's on various occasions and most recently a whopping dose of Peruvian Torch cactus. on each trip i found myself in calm but emotional neutral state. Almost as if i was totally distanced from my emotions but not in a cold inhuman sense, but somehow in a welcoming and peaceful sense. It reminds me of the calm content feeling of MDMA without the manic talkative egotistical side. Have you experienced this with phenethylamines?
 
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