do these pics look like great coke or what?

[HYDRO_CHRONIC]

man i wish i could feel the euphoria of good coke again,damn damn damn

that is honestly the only drug that i felt "whole" on and i dont feel that sober

i literally laid on my bed in bliss.....but i would have to say being that fcking horny,and it being 3am and my g/f 30min away was nothing but torture

jesus christ i wish i lived next door to you le junk ......man o man ,how anybody could not like that is beyond me

 

[onceuponatime]

I thought the idea of amphetamines had been covered already.
The seizures by DEA, as referenced in DEA Micrograms, show about 0% of cocaine containing amphs, or active cuts for that matter.
LeJunk even changed his purifying method when he realized that there was no need to wash for amphs, since they just aren't there.
Amphs, even when made cheaply by industrious Mexican Superlabs, are still more $$ than manitol, or whatever. It's a very simple business decision.

Seems like the best reason for the lack of a "good" high was the changed makeup of the actual cocaine due to a missing step in the production process.
It's in one of the many threads on the topic.
So quit blaming speed for your crappy blow.

 

[smackem]

do NOT start the coke/amp debate in here. I've seen lejunk do it really maybe 8 times and he always seems to defend his point of view well. Fact is, coke is different everywhere, so there is no real way to prove it.

The seizures by DEA, as referenced in DEA Micrograms, show about 0% of cocaine containing amphs, or active cuts for that matter.
LeJunk even changed his purifying method when he realized that there was no need to wash for amphs, since they just aren't there.
Amphs, even when made cheaply by industrious Mexican Superlabs, are still more $$ than manitol, or whatever. It's a very simple business decision.

I agree it is a very simple buisness decision. It is a 'lets add some get-up to this coke because it is cut to shit' type decision. LeJunk never changed his wash because he wasn't finding amps. Lejunks whole coke hangup is about amps. Show me where the dea finds '0% amp cuts' in coke. I can show you quite a few places on dea.gov where it says otherwise. And no active cuts? Where the fuck do you get your coke, Merck? Creatine, lidocaine, and allllllllll sorts of bullshit are routinly found in coke. I bet there is an active cut in more than 60% of DEA seizures. I bet 95-99% of coke seized by local police departments has an active cut.

 

[Le Junk]

do NOT start the coke/amp debate in here. I've seen lejunk do it really maybe 8 times and he always seems to defend his point of view well. Fact is, coke is different everywhere, so there is no real way to prove it.


I agree it is a very simple buisness decision. It is a 'lets add some get-up to this coke because it is cut to shit' type decision. LeJunk never changed his wash because he wasn't finding amps. Lejunks whole coke hangup is about amps. Show me where the dea finds '0% amp cuts' in coke. I can show you quite a few places on dea.gov where it says otherwise. And no active cuts? Where the fuck do you get your coke, Merck? Creatine, lidocaine, and allllllllll sorts of bullshit are routinly found in coke. I bet there is an active cut in more than 60% of DEA seizures. I bet 95-99% of coke seized by local police departments has an active cut.

I agree as well that by the time it hits your local dealers house in some nowhere town like, say Indianapolis, for example, that it's been dumped on at least 10 times by this point, maybe more. Chances of there being an "active" cut in one of those 10+ remixings are pretty damn good I would say.

I recentely added in my purification thread that just before I gave up on coke, I'd run 3 extractions with chloroform, let it recrystallize, and then followed it up with a routine acetone wash, strickly due to the carcenogin capabilities of chloroform. Unfortunately, since it was at the end of my career, I really didn't make a big deal out of it, but I have to go on record as saying that 2 out of the 3 trials resulted in the absolute best results of any other method, hands down! The one time it failed, I truly feel there was actually NO cocaine in the original sample to begin with.

Anyway, it was really weird. Since 1 gram of cocaine is soluble in 12.5 ml.s of chloroform, and ephedrine is entirely insoluble, I used 30 ml.s of chloroform for 3.5 grams of adulterated blow. Yeah, I went on the short side, but gambled on the fact that the 3.5 grams most likely contained less than 2 grams of real cocaine anyway.

I poured all 3.5 grams into the 30 ml.s and stirred thoroughly for about 3 minutes. There was quite a bit of undissolved something at the bottom and left floating around in the liquid. I poured the entire contents into a low flow filter paper and let it drain through onto an awaiting glass pie plate. I've gotta say, the undissolved "something", possibly ephedrine, looked like the best blow ever, though I knew it was anything but. It weighed probably half of the total original weight.

Anyway, those 2 out of 3 times were absolutely incredible! So good, that I beg someone with access to chloroform to please attempt this very easy procedure. This may just be the missing link. I can't say that it's ephedrine for sure, or anything for sure, for that matter, but whatever it is that made that shit awful to begin with was totally, and I mean totally gone! Please someone try this. Thanks.

Le Junk

 

[Nickatina]

Man I got my hands on some fishscale and I was happy as a pig in shit ... my low tolerance keeps me high for hours on a piece. Still, Ive seen my share of coke and that stuff that I got is just retarded. Reasonable bags too.

 

[Adrenochrome]

Le Junk, have you used column chromatography (possibly coupled with simple chromatography) at all?

 

[epote]

yeah looks about right, swim had exactly the same thing in terms of appearance, did an a/b extraction was no more than 55-60% pure (including any loses due to cocaine base solubility in water).

out of 5grams came almost 2 But it was prety good

 

[Le Junk]

Le Junk, have you used column chromatography (possibly coupled with simple chromatography) at all?

I've used it, but never on coke. Would love to have my own GC/MS machine though! Hey, CG/MS's always make a great Christmas gift, so if you haven't already got me something, of course. Couldn't be more than $50K used? Try Ebay........

Le Junk

P.S. Will somebody please crush up some of todays cocaine powder, put it in a capsule, and send it to ecstasydata.org as ecstasy. It's only $120, plus the $5 worth of powder. But then you'll definitely get your true GC/MS results.....

 

[BlueEclipse]

I've used it, but never on coke. Would love to have my own GC/MS machine though! Hey, CG/MS's always make a great Christmas gift, so if you haven't already got me something, of course. Couldn't be more than $50K used? Try Ebay........

Le Junk

P.S. Will somebody please crush up some of todays cocaine powder, put it in a capsule, and send it to ecstasydata.org as ecstasy. It's only $120, plus the $5 worth of powder. But then you'll definitely get your true GC/MS results.....

hey thats not a bad idea if somebody wanted to actually kno what was in there stuff. but fuck the cost of getting the test done. geez ill pass and let someone else do it.

 

[Lola'sCola]

You have no idea how many times I've asked myself that same exact question. Give me 30% actual cocaine and 70% mannitol anyday vs. 70% cocaine and 30% amps, PLEASE! More profitable for the manufacturers, and much happier consumers. Win, win for everyone. But I think there's more to it than just that. Amps are more addictive than coke. By adding amps, it ruins the quality high of the coke, but keeps you going back for more and more, even though you feel like crap. Think about that one.............

Le Junk

Yeah, I agree with the 'going-back-every-10min' thing being a result of the amps. It never ceases to amaze me that the worst, cut to shit 'coke' is the stuff that makes you fiend like crazy and smack your lips all bug-eyed, desperate for another line even though you're sure that 10min after you do it, you'll feel cracked out and shitty all over again...

But I've been reading over all the posts in this thread, and I'm absolutely taken aback by the high-level chemistry knowledge of some of the folks posting... Seems that in order to be able to enjoy cocaine in today's 'market' if you can call it that, you need all kinds of crazy chemistry knowledge, and access to powerful solvents and lab equipment. I know you can get by with stuff bought from the hardware store (done it myself plenty of times - hats off to you, Le Junk, you've saved too many of my batches to mention), but that's not the point I'm trying to make. What I'm saying: enjoying a few lines of cocaine should NOT require a home-lab or a chem degree. It's offensive to my sensibilities that I should pay for a ball of coke then have to deal with busting out the beakers and acetone in order to be able to enjoy the product I paid good money for.

Sorry guys, guess I'm just whining here, but it really fucking bugs me. I'd gladly take a 30% coke to 70% mannitol product to this ampy shit ANY DAY. It's almost made me give up my favorite drug. Almost. But I've strongly considered it many times...

 

[onceuponatime]

LeJunk never changed his wash because he wasn't finding amps

Sure about that?
"t is important that you not only read this section first, but in addition, try this step first before trying any of the outdated and more advanced techniques mentioned near the end of this thread pertaining to the removal of amphetamines, ephedrine and psuedoephedrine. I no longer feel that those substances are in most street level cocaine.
from the cocaine purification thread, by LeJunk.

Show me where the dea finds '0% amp cuts' in coke. I can show you quite a few places on dea.gov where it says otherwise. And no active cuts? Where the fuck do you get your coke, Merck? Creatine, lidocaine, and allllllllll sorts of bullshit are routinly found in coke. I bet there is an active cut in more than 60% of DEA seizures. I bet 95-99% of coke seized by local police departments has an active cut.

Perhaps we're not using the same terms.
An "active" cut, to me, means a substance added to the cocaine that does "something". Examples would be caffeine,amphetamine,etc.
Inactive cuts would be a susbstance added to cocaine that just add bulk/weight. Examples would be creatine,mannitol,ground up aspirin, whatever.
Active cuts cost more than inactive cuts.

So while it's interesting to try and figure out what your crappy cut is, there really is know way of knowing for sure.
I think xxl was on the right track, it's not amph's, it's the blow itself:
"After tons of research, i've concluded, without actually sending out a sample to a lab, that there are 2 forms of "cocaine" circulating, generallizing of course, since both can be cut down with all sorts of crap.
....

Theres the highly purified cocaine that is refined properly including the oxidation step involving permanganate that usually yields a slightly off white, soft chunky crystalline rock with a freebase that melts at about 85C and has a yellow oily color. this is the real deal.

Then there is the poor quality (usually Bolivian) coke that unfortunately, they did not purify with an oxidative step to remove the highly predominant alkaloids like cinnamoylcocaine which in many plants may be as high a content as cocaine itself. This yields a white granular crystal, very bitter, numbing, highly positive reaction on all standard tests for cocaine. The freebase melts higher right about 95C and is white and hard. The psychological effects are poor with an annoying dizzying high and little euphoria. There is evidence that some of these alkaloids may block cocaines effect at the receptor although they have little actual effect by themselves.

There really is no way to actually purify this out unfortunately. Since the supply of potassium permanganate has been limited by tight control, it has become more valuable than coca itself in many areas and the skipping of this important step yields terribly inferior cocaine. This all started about 15years ago."

 

[McFly]

It's amazing - those pics look like high quality coke... And it's a shame, too, 'cause there's really no telling what you're buying based on appearance AT ALL. What's a coke user to do? I mean, it's great to do the acetone wash and if necessary the A/B extraction, but seriously, what a crappy world we live in. Wouldn't it be fucking fantastic to buy some cocaine that looked as good as it does in those pictures, and actually get COCAINE? It's sick. Buy cocaine = get cocaine. Why is it too much to ask?

I dig what you feel man. The other night i went with some reandom whore to buy skag, which i'd done before to great success on the basis that i'll buy them a bag if they give me the contact. didnt stop me getting ripped off with fake shit, i mean the money doesnt bother me, its just why do it? They could have made so much money off me but took a quick bit of cash instead. my own fault i guess for being trusting but i'd have thought the promise of of both sides getting what they want would be enough to gain a little trust. wish i knew a dealer of my own. Trechery sucks.

 

[Adrenochrome]

Le Junk: I was referring to column chromatography as a way of purifying your the cocaine, you should look into this with regards to isolating individual impurities, but more importantly isolating the cocaine in addition.

 

[danalprazolam]

They really cracked down on this stuff at least in my area. It was comming in like crazy but now it's hard to find. Plus last time I had it, it wasn't that good clean pure stuff.

Just ask your self when your comming down. Did I really pay to feel like this

 

[Khadijah]

opake, fishscale, see-thru,

How can it be opaque (solid, unable to see thru) and see thru at the same time?

 

[Le Junk]

How can it be opaque (solid, unable to see thru) and see thru at the same time?

I was just writing off what I was being told. I then referenced things later and may have misused some particular wording. I didn't expect to have my thread proof read. So, in conclusion, it was fishscale, opalescent, pearlescent, see thru, greyish hued, translucent flakes. How's that?

Le Junk 8)

 

[Khadijah]

Nah, i didnt mean it to be a smartass yo. I dont give a fuck about spelling and proofreadin an all that shit. I was jus confused what one it was. See thru, or opaque. Shit its like somebody sayin " Yo i got this green bud thats red!" ...Not tryna be a nit picker or "school" somebody like so many heads on here, jus curious what you meant by that and tryna find out more clearly what it was..Jus a passing question, Shit.

 

[Le Junk]

Nah, i didnt mean it to be a smartass yo. I dont give a fuck about spelling and proofreadin an all that shit. I was jus confused what one it was. See thru, or opaque. Shit its like somebody sayin " Yo i got this green bud thats red!" ...Not tryna be a nit picker or "school" somebody like so many heads on here, jus curious what you meant by that and tryna find out more clearly what it was..Jus a passing question, Shit.

Cool!

Le Junk

 

[dreamthr]

As posted earlier, this is no doubt that if a drug has quality, it leaves the user more satisfied with less craving.

 

[epote]

it leaves the user more satisfied with less craving.

meh...in SWIE opinion this depends heavily on the mind set and mood of the user.

the same pure (actually pure) product can make swie feel either way depending on set and setting...

swie has noticed that excercizing with proper intencity before helps with that ALOT