The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-MiPT Thread
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Flashcry said:
My experience with 5-meo body load was very similar to a bad alcohol hangover. Nausea, headache, diahhrea, and just a general feeling of shitasticness. This occurred at a very high dose though(30mg). At sub 10mg doses I didn't experience any body load.
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Tested this recently at 6mg.
Would describe this as very pleasant overall.
Felt as if a light breeze was running through my mind.
Had planned on taking it alone and spending the duration that way.
The world did not see it this way and gave me 2 sober(ish) friends to hang out with for the first few hours. Normally this would really impede my work, but I did not seem to mind much.
Aside from that I had planned on quiet yoga/meditation followed by darkpsy and trance dance after my energies were flowing properly.
This substance was totally sufficient for sitting on the couch talking, or insanely intense night time dancing.
It is curious that you say this and I have considered this at length over my experimentation with 5-meo-dipt and upon my first trials with it I had what some might call a "bodyload". But after I learned the nature of the chemical it seemed that if I was able to focus this potential energy into something positive/expressive that it would manifest itself that way instead of as weird body feelings.
Recently had an experience with foxy to confirm this and the moxy seems to function in a similar fashion. That is why it is best to do some yoga/dancing (for me) in order to keep that intense energy from becoming bottled up inside of you.
During my yoga on moxy I was greatly surprised to be confronted by spiraling rainbow tunnels alongside the ORGASMIC body sensations.
It does not surprise me that the average person considers this things to be a bodyload. But I cannot emphasize enough that this is simply an unusually large amount of energy flowing through you and unless you (attempt to) control it then you will experience it in a somewhat negative fashion.
It's funny SS that you mention the tingle through your arms... during BOTH my recent foxy and moxy experience following my yoga/meditation I would turn all of my lights off and trance into some darkpsy. Upon losing my mind I would get some of the only blatant open eye visuals on either one...
These visions manifested as energy trails coming out of my hands that would remain there for a short moment. This is consistent with what eastern mythology tells us regarding our hands and feet as emitters of our (potential) cosmic energy.
Tested this recently at 6mg.
Would describe this as very pleasant overall.
Felt as if a light breeze was running through my mind.
Had planned on taking it alone and spending the duration that way.
The world did not see it this way and gave me 2 sober(ish) friends to hang out with for the first few hours. Normally this would really impede my work, but I did not seem to mind much.
Aside from that I had planned on quiet yoga/meditation followed by darkpsy and trance dance after my energies were flowing properly.
This substance was totally sufficient for sitting on the couch talking, or insanely intense night time dancing.
samadhi_smiles said:
It is curious that you say this and I have considered this at length over my experimentation with 5-meo-dipt and upon my first trials with it I had what some might call a "bodyload". But after I learned the nature of the chemical it seemed that if I was able to focus this potential energy into something positive/expressive that it would manifest itself that way instead of as weird body feelings.
Recently had an experience with foxy to confirm this and the moxy seems to function in a similar fashion. That is why it is best to do some yoga/dancing (for me) in order to keep that intense energy from becoming bottled up inside of you.
During my yoga on moxy I was greatly surprised to be confronted by spiraling rainbow tunnels alongside the ORGASMIC body sensations.
It does not surprise me that the average person considers this things to be a bodyload. But I cannot emphasize enough that this is simply an unusually large amount of energy flowing through you and unless you (attempt to) control it then you will experience it in a somewhat negative fashion.
It's funny SS that you mention the tingle through your arms... during BOTH my recent foxy and moxy experience following my yoga/meditation I would turn all of my lights off and trance into some darkpsy. Upon losing my mind I would get some of the only blatant open eye visuals on either one...
These visions manifested as energy trails coming out of my hands that would remain there for a short moment. This is consistent with what eastern mythology tells us regarding our hands and feet as emitters of our (potential) cosmic energy.
Xorkoth
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^^ Great post... I have experienced the same thing regarding the body load of 5-MeO-MiPT. The first few times I found it unpleasant and even a bit alarming, but since thyen it has never failed to provide a beautiful body and mind feeling. A good way to describe it would be a light breeze blowing across the mind, as you say. The key is to make sure to direct the energy into physical or mental activities. it seems to help you to direct yourself in a positive way that will lead to a lasting change in your energy flows. I have cleared out depression and anxiety before by unplugging my chakras, heart and solar plexus... kicked me right out of a month-long depression that was getting really bad, partly the result of MDMA.
5-MeO-MiPT has come to be a most useful tool for me and a wonderful experience. I find that rather than inhibiting social skills like many psychedelics do, it distinctly improves them as well as the desire to communicate, sort of like AMT but in a more natural way. It also leaves my body feeling pristine and the next day, provided I have slept (easy to do due to the short duration and lack of aftereffects), I will feel wonderful and fresh.
I find some parallels between AMT and 5-MeO-MiPT, not really in feel or anything but in what they're useful for. However, consider that I developed a serious problem with abusing AMT, whereas I've never had the slightest desire to overuse 5-MeO-MiPT. I consider it a really special chemical, but it certainly isn't much like other psychedelics... not ego-dissolving much at all. It has taught me a lot about the flow of energy and my ability to manipulate it and heal myself through understanding of that flow.
Also, a little goes a long way. I like to take it at 8mg and have tried up to 10. But 3mg doses will do about the same once you've worked with it before and come to understand it, but with a more subtle aspect.
5-MeO-MiPT has come to be a most useful tool for me and a wonderful experience. I find that rather than inhibiting social skills like many psychedelics do, it distinctly improves them as well as the desire to communicate, sort of like AMT but in a more natural way. It also leaves my body feeling pristine and the next day, provided I have slept (easy to do due to the short duration and lack of aftereffects), I will feel wonderful and fresh.
I find some parallels between AMT and 5-MeO-MiPT, not really in feel or anything but in what they're useful for. However, consider that I developed a serious problem with abusing AMT, whereas I've never had the slightest desire to overuse 5-MeO-MiPT. I consider it a really special chemical, but it certainly isn't much like other psychedelics... not ego-dissolving much at all. It has taught me a lot about the flow of energy and my ability to manipulate it and heal myself through understanding of that flow.
Also, a little goes a long way. I like to take it at 8mg and have tried up to 10. But 3mg doses will do about the same once you've worked with it before and come to understand it, but with a more subtle aspect.
Xorkoth
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I'd like to report an enjoyable combination I tried yesterday, 5-MeO-MiPT with 2C-C. I took either 8 or 10mg of 5-MeO-MiPT (my standard dose range, can't recall anymore which it was), along with 25mg of 2C-C, both orally at the same time. I then proceeded to go to a beautiful outdoor place near my apartment. The combination was not any stronger than 5-MeO-MiPT by itself (which is to say, it's very nice but non-invasive and allows for near-"normal" human interaction). The 2C-C was subordinate to the 5-MeO-MiPT, but what it did was create a very pleasant change in the tryptamine, softening all of its edges and smoothing out the body high. I felt very groovy and inspired for hours. Colors were vibrant and saturated, as with 5-MeO-MiPT alone, and there was an added element of 2C-C's softening of the vision, with subtle flowing shapes. The experience lasted for a good 5 hours, and was very pleasant and enjoyable and light.
It wasn't anything spectacular, but I've found 5-MeO-MiPT unpleasant to mix with some things, and it most certainly was not with 2C-C. The 2C-C seemed to solve all of the slightly edgy feelings of 5-MeO-MiPT while grounding it a bit more as well. Whenever I decide to use 5-MeO-MiPT again, I will probably use the same fose, but use more like 40mg of 2C-C along with it.
It wasn't anything spectacular, but I've found 5-MeO-MiPT unpleasant to mix with some things, and it most certainly was not with 2C-C. The 2C-C seemed to solve all of the slightly edgy feelings of 5-MeO-MiPT while grounding it a bit more as well. Whenever I decide to use 5-MeO-MiPT again, I will probably use the same fose, but use more like 40mg of 2C-C along with it.
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Thanks for your posts Xorkoth. Seems we're on the same page about a lot of stuff, from what I've read of your posts.
I was wondering what the summation of your combo's with this have been altogether? I see myself taking 10mg of this with some acid an outdoor gathering this weekend... which I'm sure would go down fine, but I wouldn't mind getting some feedback. Thought I read someone saying it didn't play well with other tryptamines?? People often say things like this though so I don't usually believe until testing myself.
I was wondering what the summation of your combo's with this have been altogether? I see myself taking 10mg of this with some acid an outdoor gathering this weekend... which I'm sure would go down fine, but I wouldn't mind getting some feedback. Thought I read someone saying it didn't play well with other tryptamines?? People often say things like this though so I don't usually believe until testing myself.
Xorkoth
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Funny that you ask... I was just about to post another combo I found notes on.
Overall, I have been a bit afraid to combine 5-MeO-MiPT with stuff, as nanobrain (a poster who hasn't been around much lately) claims it doesn't play well with others. However, over time I've found this to not be so true, and lately I've been trying mixes with it.
5-MeO-MiPT + 2C-C: See above.
8mg 5-MeO-MiPT (orally) + 20mg 2C-C + 5mg 2C-E (both recally): This was an intense and interesting combination. The 2C-E dominated the entire experience by far, but it was much stronger than I would have expected the low dose to be for me. It seemed like the 5-MeO-MiPT provided a sense of emotion and euphoria to the 2C-E, while the 2C-C provided a very smooth and welcoming body high (as 2C-E can feel a bit weird), and the 2C-E was enhanced mentally and visually and allowed to just shine through. The first 2 hours were very intense, strong CEVs and some of the strongest OEVs I've had in a while (although all pretty colorless). Then after 2 hours it really plateaued nicely. My body was entirely comfortable and pleasantly glowing. I felt healthy, strong, and full of mirth. There was a very surpring lack of bodyload and the result was more or less a very laid-back and introspective 2C-E trip, good for a little recreation and a little serious thought and discussion. I remained wide awake for a long time, but felt I coulod have slept. My heart rate was totally normal (fast during the come-up though), and I was not sweating in the slightest. I had plenty of energy but was not hyper. I was very mentally lucid and like 2C-E alone, I felt pretty poetically inspired, only the desire to communicate was stronger. I would repeat this again with a higher dose of 2C-E.
Mushrooms - I tried this once and things got pretty intense. It was a low dose of mushrooms (~1 gram), and it more or less just made the come-up much more difficult and ended up feeling mostly like mushrooms, but stronger than 1 gram would have been. Pointless really, from my one trial.
Overall, I have been a bit afraid to combine 5-MeO-MiPT with stuff, as nanobrain (a poster who hasn't been around much lately) claims it doesn't play well with others. However, over time I've found this to not be so true, and lately I've been trying mixes with it.
5-MeO-MiPT + 2C-C: See above.
8mg 5-MeO-MiPT (orally) + 20mg 2C-C + 5mg 2C-E (both recally): This was an intense and interesting combination. The 2C-E dominated the entire experience by far, but it was much stronger than I would have expected the low dose to be for me. It seemed like the 5-MeO-MiPT provided a sense of emotion and euphoria to the 2C-E, while the 2C-C provided a very smooth and welcoming body high (as 2C-E can feel a bit weird), and the 2C-E was enhanced mentally and visually and allowed to just shine through. The first 2 hours were very intense, strong CEVs and some of the strongest OEVs I've had in a while (although all pretty colorless). Then after 2 hours it really plateaued nicely. My body was entirely comfortable and pleasantly glowing. I felt healthy, strong, and full of mirth. There was a very surpring lack of bodyload and the result was more or less a very laid-back and introspective 2C-E trip, good for a little recreation and a little serious thought and discussion. I remained wide awake for a long time, but felt I coulod have slept. My heart rate was totally normal (fast during the come-up though), and I was not sweating in the slightest. I had plenty of energy but was not hyper. I was very mentally lucid and like 2C-E alone, I felt pretty poetically inspired, only the desire to communicate was stronger. I would repeat this again with a higher dose of 2C-E.
Mushrooms - I tried this once and things got pretty intense. It was a low dose of mushrooms (~1 gram), and it more or less just made the come-up much more difficult and ended up feeling mostly like mushrooms, but stronger than 1 gram would have been. Pointless really, from my one trial.
Jabberwocky
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just as a meta-comment - I take nanobrain's comments with a grain of ketamine, since he reacts really weirdly to combos and psychs in general -
he really discouraged the piracetam + DMT combo, but I find this combo wonderful
thanks for the notes, Xorkoth! You make me want to dip back into the 2CE world -
he really discouraged the piracetam + DMT combo, but I find this combo wonderful
thanks for the notes, Xorkoth! You make me want to dip back into the 2CE world -
Xorkoth
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Yeah, I'm making me want to as well... perhaps tomorrow night I'll try a mix of 6-8mg of 5-MeO-MiPT, 20mg of 2C-C, and 12 or so mg of 2C-E (rectally). Thinking about my previous experience I described above, it was decidedly dominated by 2C-E but it was the best 2C-E has ever felt physically before, by far. The body high was light and euphoric, extremely satisfying, and mentally it was deep and lucid.
Ximot
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I consider none of the 5-meO's as particulraly comdoetable, and i wouldn't recommend 5-meO-MIPT. The honourable S_S has pretty much made the point about them, about 5-MeO-MIPT in particular.
A lowish dose of 5-MeO-DALT might be ok, though as a psy novice you may not even notice much at all as it is very subtle. 5-MeO-DIPT is also ok but not very insightful. It is also mandatory to dose this one low - no more than 12mg if it's your first time.
A lowish dose of 5-MeO-DALT might be ok, though as a psy novice you may not even notice much at all as it is very subtle. 5-MeO-DIPT is also ok but not very insightful. It is also mandatory to dose this one low - no more than 12mg if it's your first time.
orbital_forest
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me and my gf will be splitting a 25 mg capsule this evening...its been a while since my last 5 meo mipt experience(the licking of the bag lol) and im pretty excited to have a dope ass time....im aiming for recreation tonight,if i woulda wanted introspection i woulda gone with a 4 substitued tryp....happy trails to all! this just goes to show you that a chem can treat you wonderfully or horribly,you just gotta respect it...my two bad experiences with this one came from too high of a dose,and mixing it with other psychoactive drugs
Xorkoth
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I'd like to add that I if you choose to attempt mixing 2C-E with 5-MeO-MiPT like I did, that you should be very careful and start low. But I have to report that I found the combination excellent... 5-MeO-MiPT + 2C-E + 2C-C. It wasn't like adding 3 drugs together, it was like a separate drug... it didn't create a state of unimaginable intensity, but a state which was about as intense as 2C-E itself but just changed. Well, the come-up was pretty intense, but short.
Stomach discomfort with 5-meo-mipt
Hey. I've been able to get my hands on 5-meo-mipt lately, and although me and several other friends have had great experiences every time(eating various ammounts,5, 10, and 15 mg) with little to no stomach discomfort, my girlfriends stomach was heavily affected, off of just 5 mg. it made her puke, and then again in the morning. her stomach also hurt for a few days after.
Now, she really wants to try it again, but i have two questions. she didn't feel too much off of 5 mg, and wants to try more, but since her stomach reacted badly last time, do you think this would be a very bad idea?
has anybody else encountered something like this? and if so, did it happen each time, or just on one occasion?
she really wants to give it another shot, but we want to be safe, and i cant find anything on the web about stomach problems associated with 5-meo-mipt
Hey. I've been able to get my hands on 5-meo-mipt lately, and although me and several other friends have had great experiences every time(eating various ammounts,5, 10, and 15 mg) with little to no stomach discomfort, my girlfriends stomach was heavily affected, off of just 5 mg. it made her puke, and then again in the morning. her stomach also hurt for a few days after.
Now, she really wants to try it again, but i have two questions. she didn't feel too much off of 5 mg, and wants to try more, but since her stomach reacted badly last time, do you think this would be a very bad idea?
has anybody else encountered something like this? and if so, did it happen each time, or just on one occasion?
she really wants to give it another shot, but we want to be safe, and i cant find anything on the web about stomach problems associated with 5-meo-mipt
Jabberwocky
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If she got very nauseated after taking 5mg, then what do you think she will feel like with even more? She will porbably feel much sicker, most likely. She might have some sort of medical crisis, who knows.
Or she might be OK, but whose to say? Why not give her 2-3mg and then if she does not get sick give her more?
Better suggestion: find better drugs!
Or she might be OK, but whose to say? Why not give her 2-3mg and then if she does not get sick give her more?
Better suggestion: find better drugs!
fastandbulbous
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It's due to activity at the 5HT3 receptor. Unless she can get ahold of something like ondansetron, taking it again at a dose larger than 5mg would be a very silly idea for her as she'll sound like she's turning inside out the puking will get so bad
Xorkoth
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I love 5-MeO-MiPT, but it's a pretty finely-tuned molecule. I'd say there are much better ones for having fun (although I find 5-MeO-MiPT to be great fun as well). And the 5-MeO-tryptamines really seem to bother some people, like our resident senior moderator, and apparently your girlfriend.
Xorkoth
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Merged in a thread about stomach problems and 5-MeO-MiPT.
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