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EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

Fucking Hell! :mad:

One pill from a batch of Alissa Clonazepam I sent off to Wedinos has recently been published with the test result of "no active ingredient found" :roll eyes: :(.

100 pills in that batch too . To complicate matters, another single pill from a different box / batch of Alissa, from the same vendor, tested fine a few weeks earlier.

Without further testing, I have no way of knowing if it's just one dud pill, or if it's the whole blister of 25, or the whole box of 100!! Or if it's just a few random dud pills - best case scenario?. Perhaps the press had ran out of the main ingredient before production could stop. Who knows? And my confidence in the other batch has been dented now too, so they'll also need more testing :|.

If I'm very lucky, it might have been just that one pill that was off, although that seems unlikely. Or there might have been an error in the testing.

Gonna have to work something out, sending off several more samples from different blisters and different boxes, to give me a better idea of where things stand, now that uncertainty has been thrown into the question, about the quality and provenance of these Alissas, where after the first result I was hoping that the next tests were just formalities.

Sadly, not so.

This might be the first time that I've seen that one good result for a particular brand, from a particular vendor, does not necessarily mean that all repeat orders of the same will continue to be good. Which is why I continue getting every single benzo order tested. As much of a total ball ache and time sink as it is, it is still totally worthwhile. I'd actually say that it's essential these days tbh.

I think I'm gonna have to start giving myself time limits to get each Wedinos form completed, sample attached, envelope addressed, sealed, and ready to be posted. The whole process currently seems to be taking me far too long.

Timing myself in the shower deffo worked with cutting the time those take me, and hopefully I can do the same with the Wedinos forms. Unfortunately, it's looking likely that I'm going to be using them a lot more over the coming weeks.
 
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Bleaney said:
Fucking Hell! :mad:

One pill from a batch of Alissa Clonazepam I sent off to Wedinos has recently been published with the test result of "no active ingredient found" :roll eyes: :(.

100 pills in that batch too . To complicate matters, another single pill from a different box / batch of Alissa, from the same vendor, tested fine a few weeks earlier.

Without further testing, I have no way of knowing if it's just one dud pill, or if it's the whole blister of 25, or the whole box of 100!! And my confidence in the other batch has been dented now too, so they'll also need more testing :|.

If I'm very lucky, it might have been just that one pill that was off, although that seems unlikely. Or there might have been an error in the testing.

Gonna have to work something out, sending off several more samples from different blisters and different boxes, to give me a better idea of where things stand, now that uncertainty has been thrown into the question, about the quality and provenance of these Alissas, where after the first result I was hoping that the next tests were just formalities.

Sadly, not so.

This might be the first time that I've seen that one good result for a particular brand, from a particular vendor, does not necessarily mean that all repeat orders of the same will continue to be good. Which is why I continue getting every single benzo order tested. As much of a total ball ache and time sink as it is, it is still totally worthwhile. I'd actually say that it's essential these days tbh.

I think I'm gonna have to start giving myself time limits to get each Wedinos form completed, sample attached, envelope addressed, sealed, and ready to be posted. The whole process currently seems to be taking me far too long.

Timing myself in the shower deffo worked with cutting the time those take me, and hopefully I can do the same with the Wedinos forms. Unfortunately, it's looking likely that I'm going to be using them more and more.
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awww man, that is absolutely gutting to get. Because you know 'hey, it might be active. it might be a dud. it might be something else..' too and ya can't do that with every pill! Even reagent testing, you'd be testing half to pill just to see if any activity.
So Avoid Alissa Clonazepam would ya say?

I got stuck with 100 pregabs there, that were all good up until these new ones called 'nebigesic', that are copies of nevigesic ones, and quite rubbish. I took an one of the old pregacare brand vs them, and was F'd out of my tree from the pregacare - like i was pregab naive or something. Either way, pure rubbish.
Avoid 'Nebigesic' pregabs too.
Feel like yelling at him: Just 'Indian pregabs' is anything, just F'ING SAY THE BRAND, YA DIPSTICK!
 
Exactly.

I'll need to try to find out what each batch / strip of 25 are testing as.

But even if you get a mixed batch with some testing inactive and some good, i dont think all is lost. You can just grind them all down, get the average weight of a pill, and take things from there, by weighing out the powered weight of a single pill. It's not like some are showing as containing bad shit, just that they have no active ingredient identified.

I certainly cant afford to bin a whole 100 because of one bad result, where others were good. Might have just been a manufacturing error or. / bad 'quality control.

It will be a total fucking laborious pain in the arse, grinding them down to powder. Mind you, I should have a much improved strong hand / grip / wrist strength after grinding down hundreds of those fuckers in those £3 pill crusher things.

<<Desperately looking for the tiniest glimmer of silver lining amongst the clouds.
 
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Great idea!

Why didn't I think of that.

Anyway yeah, I do have a blender , which I think it could work on pills, although it might be struggling to deal with relatively small volumes, so you'd have to shake and tilt it, and all of that stuff.

The alternative for me, for example, was previously sandwiching those 8-500 Co-Codamols between sheets of newspaper and towels and breaking them up with a hammer, using as much manual dexterity and appropriate force as I could manage. (I'm no master craftsman thats for sure :ROFLMAO: although I can get most of the essential around the house basics done (Thanks to my Dad teaching me how to deal with basic practicalities, and all the little tips and knacks that he passed on. Not everyone is so fortunate to have a Dad like that.. Thanks Dad! )and the pill crushing by this method worked just fine for me . It mostly worked just fine, and is a much better method for large pills, or if you have a lot of them to crush.

I guess that method might now be considered primitive, but it does the job for no cost.. Although already I think that using a blender would be far better option for blending a lot of pills. It's self evident.

Hopefully the future test results will allow me to narrow things down, and work out what's going n with each batch and strip, if I need to go to such extreme measures. But for a strip of 25, I think it;'s worth it. Each strip may need 2 tests, to be sure. This is gonna be a big task. If I didn't have ajob taking up nearly ALL of my mental energy, I'd have much more time and ability to sort such things out, as promptly as possible.)

Then I cold just blend up any mixes of inactive and pills tested as clonaz as the primary ingredient, and I'd soon narrow it down as to the strength of the mix, and the dose needed, just by the effects I feel.

There is a danger of using this whole option as a way to increase my dose further, when there is no need. I'll have to try hard t remember to guard against that.
 
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I spent a lot of time putting co-codamol in a sandwich bag and bashing them up until powdered, took a while though. Wish I'd thought of blending them sooner, was very quick. Just make sure the blender is very dry and clean I guess, then the powder wont stick to the sides.

Hope you can sort those pills out, but if they are too suspicious then bin 'em 💔
 
I know its a money saver, but people need to stop buying 100 pills in one go from these characters. I have had to shop around recently and despite needing almost the same amount, I have bought 4 different brands of 3 different drugs in individual monthly courses (30 at a time), choosing products that I have used before and at least to my knowledge have not been counterfeited yet. I cannot wait for testing and embarrassingly I am able to recognize the individual taste of 4 different benzo derivatives (clonazepam, diazepam, lorazepam and alprazolam) and when added to the fact that they produced effects exactly as expected, its a temporary fudge that works. I am not saying this is good HR, just do not put all of your eggs in one basket.
 
It's not a silver bullet but you can buy doses that aren't faked anywhere near as frequently. 10mg Diazzies are an absolute shit show but the 5mgs seem to seldom be faked from a look on Wedinos. The Easiums have never failed me.
 
I found pharma grade midazolam to be a short blackout experience.

I had my hands on quite alot and found tolerance builds fairly quickly but the short half life made it feel pretty interesting in terms of feeling ok after a few hours until that rebound anxiety hits after over use.

Its definitely a powerful one. Id rank it above temazepam for sleep and probably no1 for that but the short lasting effects made it quite addictive.

Dont think id love to get a proper dependence on the stuff
 
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I found pharma grade midazolam to be a short blackout experience.

I had my hands on quite alot and found tolerance builds fairly quickly but the short half life made it feel pretty interesting in terms of feeling ok after a few hours until that rebound anxiety hits after over use.

Its definitely a powerful one. Id rank it above temazepam for sleep and probably no1 for that but the short lasting effects made it quite addictive.

Dont think id love to get a proper dependence on the stuff
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That’s kinda what I was expecting to get, but neither of these seem KO enough to be fully legit.

They are still quite pleasant though so…
 
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