Please Actually Give the Discord some attention. It is ruining your credibility.

Cheshire_Kat said:
I'm actually good with arrall so I'd talk with them if it truly mattered.
I'm also hoping the the OP (Jess) was over reacting or something. I'm getting too old to tip my lance at windmills, if ya get my meaning.

You "yooths " are the future of BL :cool:
I will say no more on this subject
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Arral isnt a mod anymore. XTC is a mod on there and i know him. Talk to him and he should unban you

Im the only old school BLer o there i think
 
Jnowhere said:
Excuse me, for hating the fact there is apparently a whole lot of predators and sickos on there.
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there are.

on other servers using the discord platform

not the bluelight discord server.

you seem absolutely determined to conflate the two. as long as you do, you're tilting at windmills. i think it's obvious why you do this but speculating on that is a whole other discussion :)

Jnowhere said:
I am going to assume
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indeed. you do that a lot. and it causes you to misunderstand issues, speak on issues from a place of ignorance, get mad at things that are not not happening and at things people are not doing and have not done.

alasdair
 
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Cheshire_Kat said:
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I wouldn't know.

I was banned from BL Discord before even having a chance to post. I only signed up because Tronica was looking for cross platform membership and when I was banned I never tried again because I am not of fan of "the platform"'s security problems, not because of content. Discord is IRC with a fancy wrapper and as I said I am not a fan of the "platform" from a security standpoint.
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You got banned almost immediately? Wow, even I am impressed; because I know you aren't the type to cause trouble, usually.🤣🤣
 
I have heard rumors of admins reading our messages

I dont like whatever divide there is between discord and the rest of us? My first reaction is to say "Fuck ya'll on discord talking shit in secret" --- btw you got somethin to say bout me say it about me im not thin skinned and ill be way more pissed if I hear we got a problem from someone not you

Does the BLUA not apply on discord or some shit?
 
@Jnowhere you're clearly now trolling.

consider this a formal warning.

you have been told clearly and repeatedly, including by me directly, that discord the platform and individual discord servers are not the same thing. the distinction is not complicated and you are plainly capable of understanding it. at this point your continued conflation of the two is not a misunderstanding, it is a deliberate choice to misrepresent bluelight's position in order to inflame this thread and disrupt the forum.

that stops now.

if you post further content in this thread that conflates the platform with individual servers, or that characterises bluelight's discord presence in ways that have already been corrected, you will receive a ban without further warning.

you are welcome to have concerns about discord. you are not welcome to repeatedly misrepresent facts after they have been corrected, and to do so in a way that is clearly designed to cause disruption rather than advance any genuine discussion.

consider this your final notice.

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
it has nothing to do with whatever problematic servers you may have encountered or heard about elsewhere on discord.

criticising bluelight for using discord because of bad actors on other servers is a bit like criticising someone for using email because scammers also use email. the tool isn't the problem.
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I mean, there have been bad actors and sexual predators on the Bluelight server though. No need to go looking other places.

I think ultimately the problem is that for many months there were individuals pointing out their problematic manipulative behavior , and because of the "culture" there, the criticism was drowned out, and rather than that person being dealt with, they were supported and empowered-- then what happened...

The "culture" there doesn't allow open discourse like we have here. It doesn't allow for any sort of transparency, either. Even as a senior administratior and staff member of 7+ years I'm still waiting on a formal explanation of why I remain banned. I never received any kind of formal communication about it, and we all know why.

to anybody else who has concerns about behavior of, or specific posts by, members of bluelight discord staff, please report them (with screenshots or links) by emailing [email protected] or dm'ing any admin.
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Oh that would be nice wouldn't it. But when you can permaban anyone you want with no accountability or transparency, as well as limiting access to certain channels to approved individuals, there isn't much opportunity to obtain these things is there...
 
alasdairm said:
@Jnowhere you're clearly now trolling.

consider this a formal warning.

you have been told clearly and repeatedly, including by me directly, that discord the platform and individual discord servers are not the same thing. the distinction is not complicated and you are plainly capable of understanding it. at this point your continued conflation of the two is not a misunderstanding, it is a deliberate choice to misrepresent bluelight's position in order to inflame this thread and disrupt the forum.

that stops now.

if you post further content in this thread that conflates the platform with individual servers, or that characterises bluelight's discord presence in ways that have already been corrected, you will receive a ban without further warning.

you are welcome to have concerns about discord. you are not welcome to repeatedly misrepresent facts after they have been corrected, and to do so in a way that is clearly designed to cause disruption rather than advance any genuine discussion.

consider this your final notice.

alasdair
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I am not trolling, I am just very upset about this. I explained my position to you in a DM. But I will leave it alone.
I am sorry that you think that. I am just very opinionated and believe in free speech, but I am truly sorry for you not understanding why I am mad. I know we can't agree and you have the power so I will leave it alone, for now.
 
there's nothing wrong with being upset.

if you stepped back and chose to stop conflating discord the platform and individual discord servers you'd see that you're getting upset over a misunderstanding.

and, yes, i don't understand why any sane, rational, reasonably smart person would choose to do that to themselves.

thanks.

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
thanks for the perspective mal.

alasdair
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Absolutely.

One last thing I think worth mentioning is that I've brought the issue up to everyone here on the forum with any kind of power or influence, several times, all the way up to the top of the food chain. Had very cordial and respectful conversations, yet, there seems to be an imbalance that prevents holding certain individuals accountable. A fear that wielding any sort of authority over them might result in mutiny. It's a very reasonable fear to have as I've seen them openly threaten it many times.

That is not a tenable or healthy dynamic. I totally get how when you have a group of individuals who are very devoted to and protective of each other, and they run the biggest (by far) arm of your social media apparatus for free -- that's not something you really want to mess with. Even if it means you might have to look the other way when it comes to certain issues.
 
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