Cocaine acetone washed coke is worse than before

[jmc31337]

Procaine is a good shout, seems to be a fair bit of it about in europe looking at the last report from drugs pro, 33.9% of cocaine samples contained it....

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Benzocaine HCl salt: Insoluble to Slightly Soluble
Benzocaine Free base: Soluble
Lidocaine Free base: Very soluble
Lidocaine HCl salt: Slightly soluble
Procaine Free base: Soluble
Procaine HCl salt: Moderate / limited solubility


Ill break it down (helps me learn and get my orgchem masters degree later AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF YALL KNOW CERTAIN CHEM FACTS THAT I MISS)

Free Bases: Generally less polar than their salt forms due to the absence of an ionic charge. They tend to be more soluble in organic solvents (non-polar to moderately polar) and less soluble in water.
Hydrochloride Salts: Ionic compounds formed by protonating the amine group. Highly polar due to the charge. They are typically very soluble in water and other highly polar solvents, but poorly soluble in non-polar or moderately polar organic solvents (NOT HARD SET CHEM FACT FOR ALL HCl salts BUT GENERALLY.)
Acetone: A moderately polar organic solvent. It has a dipole moment and can act as a hydrogen bond acceptor but not a donor. This makes it good at dissolving many organic compounds with mixed polarity.

1. Lidocaine
Lidocaine Free Base
Polarity: Mixed (significant non-polar hydrocarbon parts + polar amide & tertiary amine groups).
Solubility in Acetone: Soluble to Very Soluble. Acetone's moderate polarity and hydrogen bond accepting capability allow it to interact favorably with both polar and non-polar parts of the lidocaine free base.
General Dissolving Capability: Excellent in a wide range of organic solvents (non-polar to moderately polar). Poorly soluble in water.

Lidocaine HCl (Hydrochloride Salt)
Polarity: Highly Polar (ionic).
Solubility in Acetone: Poorly Soluble / Slightly Soluble. Acetone is not polar enough to effectively solvate the charged ions of Lidocaine HCl.
General Dissolving Capability: Very soluble in water and other highly polar solvents (e.g., ethanol, methanol).

2. Benzocaine
Benzocaine Free Base
Polarity: Mixed (non-polar benzene ring & ethyl group + polar ester & primary amine groups).
Solubility in Acetone: Soluble. Similar to Lidocaine free base, acetone can effectively interact with its mixed polar and non-polar features.
General Dissolving Capability: Soluble in many organic solvents (e.g., alcohol, ether, chloroform, acetone). Poorly soluble in water.

Benzocaine HCl (Hydrochloride Salt)
Note: Benzocaine is usually used as the free base due to its low pKa for the amine. Its hydrochloride salt is less common but would follow the general trend.
Polarity: Highly Polar (ionic).
Solubility in Acetone: Poorly Soluble / Slightly Soluble.
General Dissolving Capability: Soluble in water and other highly polar solvents.

3. Procaine
Procaine Free Base
Polarity: Mixed (non-polar benzene ring & ethyl groups + polar ester, primary amine, & tertiary amine groups).
Solubility in Acetone: Soluble. Explicitly mentioned as soluble in organic solvents like acetone.
General Dissolving Capability: Soluble in organic solvents (e.g., alcohol, ether, chloroform, acetone). Poorly soluble in water.

Procaine HCl (Hydrochloride Salt)
Polarity: Highly Polar (ionic).
Solubility in Acetone: Moderate / Limited. Your provided data states "~56.68 g/L at 25°C," which indicates some solubility but is still limited compared to its water solubility. This is better than many salts in acetone, likely due to a slightly better balance of the non-polar parts with the charged functional group, but still far from "very soluble."
General Dissolving Capability: Very soluble in water and other highly polar solvents.


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[placebonaut]

damn a cut that acetone can't clear --- what bastards! Acetone wouldnt remove caffeine or other caine products, huh learn somethin everyday.... I thought that shit came out clean after ALL THAT WORK damn lol

correct me if i'm wrong but isn't a cold water wash the way to treat caffeine? it's not perfect but coke is much more soluble in water, and caffeine is much less soluble in cold water?

there's lots of different options for washing and I often see double washed coke on the markets, though generally not cold water washed IIRC, i guess because what coke source is selling bricks with caffeine in it!

The wash with anhydrous *as cold as practically possible* acetone calls for 10-20ml per GRAM cocaine HCl..

like -20c

Ill break it down (helps me learn and get my orgchem masters degree later AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF YALL KNOW CERTAIN CHEM FACTS THAT I MISS)

interesting read thanks for posting that! I learnt things

 

[BadBoy377]

I'm pretty sure it would be worth the hassle to buy three bricks break em down and add caffeine etc and press it into four bricks.

Whether you include being found out doing this by your customers at that level as hassle or not is another thing. If so I suspect it's not.

 

[placebonaut]

Whether you include being found out doing this by your customers at that level as hassle or not is another thing. If so I suspect it's not.

yeah that was more my rationale, it's profitable to do yes, but not longer term because you'll loose repeated trade, and the big boys aren't some fly by night muppets

 

[BadBoy377]

because you'll loose repeated trade,

And possibly appendages

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

I'm pretty sure it would be worth the hassle to buy three bricks break em down and add caffeine etc and press it into four bricks.

Whether you include being found out doing this by your customers at that level as hassle or not is another thing. If so I suspect it's not.

I am going to estimate you may be in more trouble from your supplier than your customers -- although both are future problems you just created yourself for a short term buck. Idk you about to move to the other side of the world or some shit you could run that play once prolly lol

 

[BadBoy377]

Yes as you are right. Certainly if you replicate your suppliers brick stamp. I wouldn't do it at all. The world isn't really that big these days. But then I wouldn't even sell people the unabashed stuff to start with.

You don't know what kinda fire you're lighting in someone's life giving them access to the hard(er) stuff. Fucking karma, man...

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Fr I wasnt gunna mention stamps but ya picked my brain. No it is a shorterm suckers move and the world isnt that big and the profit margins are plenty high already from what I've gathered.

I certainly do not put it past a small time dealer to do it anyways though, especially when you get to down to oz's or w/e

 

[jmc31337]

correct me if i'm wrong but isn't a cold water wash the way to treat caffeine? it's not perfect but coke is much more soluble in water, and caffeine is much less soluble in cold water?

there's lots of different options for washing and I often see double washed coke on the markets, though generally not cold water washed IIRC, i guess because what coke source is selling bricks with caffeine in it!

like -20c

interesting read thanks for posting that! I learnt things

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Solubility-of-caffeine-in-various-solvents-and-temperatures_tbl1_261550337

At room temperature (around 20-25 °C) report solubility in the range of approximately 1-2 grams of caffeine per 100 mL of acetone
Colder temps re: acetone and caffeine lower the solubility rate
Both caffeine and cocaine HCl are water soluble, you dont wanna use water
For separating caffeine from cocaine, one would generally look for a solvent in which caffeine is soluble and cocaine HCl is insoluble (or vice-versa), or use an acid-base extraction if dealing with cocaine freebase

This is not a perfect process, youre not getting EVERY cut out of the coke. We're not going to just be able to wash coke with acetone and VIOLA! its perfect pure now
But you can remove some

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Gotta be a sad moment when you go to the trouble of soaking acetone into your 'coke' and it comes out worse!

Damn

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Gotta be a sad moment when you go to the trouble of soaking acetone into your 'coke' and it comes out worse!

Damn

FR @jmc31337 method looks pretty solid -- does that get the amphs and methamphs out as well? I remember getting a gram cut with meth once and I was pretty pissed. Lol ive never had over an 8ball coke aint my bag but I have been around alot of coke dealers, id say hypothetically but I think they all got busted --- and most of em snitched. *Weeps silently*

here was the 'le junk' method -- https://www.bluelight.org/community...-v-the-final-word.317605/page-49#post-5627970

 

[jmc31337]

FR @jmc31337 method looks pretty solid -- does that get the amphs and methamphs out as well? I remember getting a gram cut with meth once and I was pretty pissed. Lol ive never had over an 8ball coke aint my bag but I have been around alot of coke dealers, id say hypothetically but I think they all got busted --- and most of em snitched. *Weeps silently*

here was the 'le junk' method -- https://www.bluelight.org/community...-v-the-final-word.317605/page-49#post-5627970

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Cocaine Post in thread 'acetone washed coke is worse than before'

Sep 22, 2026

I had some shitty coke. I acetone washed it and all it does now is makes my heart race nothing else.

I don’t know if I’m washing it wrong or what. I put the coke in a glass dish, I pour the acetone in, stir it and pour it in a coffee filter, squeeze it between paper towels. I left it dry for two days and put it in the oven for and hour on the lowest temp.

Cocaine hydrochloride has appreciable solubility in acetone. This is why acetone washes are commonly used in attempts to purify it.
Here's a breakdown, focusing on substances that are often found as cuts and could pose a...

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[koolman69420]

is this a thing people do?

 

[placebonaut]

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Solubility-of-caffeine-in-various-solvents-and-temperatures_tbl1_261550337

At room temperature (around 20-25 °C) report solubility in the range of approximately 1-2 grams of caffeine per 100 mL of acetone
Colder temps re: acetone and caffeine lower the solubility rate
Both caffeine and cocaine HCl are water soluble, you dont wanna use water
For separating caffeine from cocaine, one would generally look for a solvent in which caffeine is soluble and cocaine HCl is insoluble (or vice-versa), or use an acid-base extraction if dealing with cocaine freebase

This is not a perfect process, youre not getting EVERY cut out of the coke. We're not going to just be able to wash coke with acetone and VIOLA! its perfect pure now
But you can remove some

The temp it's done at plays a part, and yes I agree you're not getting every cut out, this is just about reducing things as much as possible based on what you're guessing it has in it (the power of getting it fucking tested?!)

As I said before I don't know a great deal about washing coke, but I still think cold water is a valid way to wash out some of caffeine and paracetamol, you just need a lower temp - I'm not saying 1C, just lower that room temp, then followed by an acetone wash.

Just wash the coke a couple of times with cold water then evaporate the water to be left with a lot less caffeine/paracetamol.

Trying to wash out caffeine with Acetone at room temp isn't very efficient given it's solubility.

Worth pointing out for people not in this thread who are reading this that you can wash in 2 ways, either try to use something that dissolves the cuts and leaves behind the coke, or instead dissolve the coke in something that leaves behind the cuts (then just evaporate the solvent away to leave the coke).

Am I missing something here?

happy to be corrected if I've got something wrong.

Table 1: Paracetamol/Tylenol (Acetaminophen) Solubility​

Solvent	Temperature	Solubility (g / 100 mL)
Water	1°C	0.6
Water	20°C	1.2
Acetone	1°C	4.5
Acetone	20°C	8.0
Ethanol (95%)	1°C	3.2
Ethanol (95%)	20°C	6.0

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Table 2: Caffeine (Anhydrous) Solubility​

Solvent	Temperature	Solubility (g / 100 mL)
Water	1°C	1.5
Water	20°C	2.2
Acetone	1°C	1.2
Acetone	20°C	2.0
Ethanol (95%)	1°C	0.9
Ethanol (95%)	20°C	1.5

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Table 3: Cocaine HCl Solubility​

Solvent	Temperature	Solubility (g / 100 mL)
Water	1°C	150
Water	20°C	200
Acetone	1°C	0.04
Acetone	20°C	0.1
Ethanol (95%)	1°C	3.0
Ethanol (95%)	20°C	5.0

 

[cgdon]

had the same issue with some batches. no high euphoria only high heart rate.
it's garbadge coke, threw it away

 

[jmc31337]

The temp it's done at plays a part, and yes I agree you're not getting every cut out, this is just about reducing things as much as possible based on what you're guessing it has in it (the power of getting it fucking tested?!)

As I said before I don't know a great deal about washing coke, but I still think cold water is a valid way to wash out some of caffeine and paracetamol, you just need a lower temp - I'm not saying 1C, just lower that room temp, then followed by an acetone wash.

Just wash the coke a couple of times with cold water then evaporate the water to be left with a lot less caffeine/paracetamol.

Trying to wash out caffeine with Acetone at room temp isn't very efficient given it's solubility.

Worth pointing out for people not in this thread who are reading this that you can wash in 2 ways, either try to use something that dissolves the cuts and leaves behind the coke, or instead dissolve the coke in something that leaves behind the cuts (then just evaporate the solvent away to leave the coke).

Am I missing something here?

happy to be corrected if I've got something wrong.

Table 1: Paracetamol/Tylenol (Acetaminophen) Solubility​

Solvent	Temperature	Solubility (g / 100 mL)
Water	1°C	0.6
Water	20°C	1.2
Acetone	1°C	4.5
Acetone	20°C	8.0
Ethanol (95%)	1°C	3.2
Ethanol (95%)	20°C	6.0

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Table 2: Caffeine (Anhydrous) Solubility​

Solvent	Temperature	Solubility (g / 100 mL)
Water	1°C	1.5
Water	20°C	2.2
Acetone	1°C	1.2
Acetone	20°C	2.0
Ethanol (95%)	1°C	0.9
Ethanol (95%)	20°C	1.5

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Table 3: Cocaine HCl Solubility​

Solvent	Temperature	Solubility (g / 100 mL)
Water	1°C	150
Water	20°C	200
Acetone	1°C	0.04
Acetone	20°C	0.1
Ethanol (95%)	1°C	3.0
Ethanol (95%)	20°C	5.0

Referencing the Charts for Water:

• Caffeine in Water (Table 2): At 20°C, solubility is 2.2 g / 100 mL.
• Cocaine HCl in Water (Table 3): At 20°C, solubility is 200 g / 100 mL.
• Analysis: Cocaine HCl is almost 100 times more soluble in water than caffeine. This is a huge difference. If you add a mixture of these two to water, Cocaine HCl will dissolve very readily, while caffeine will dissolve to a much lesser extent. This allows for preferential dissolution

Referencing the Charts for Acetone:

• Caffeine in Acetone (Table 2): At 20°C, solubility is 2.0 g / 100 mL.
• Cocaine HCl in Acetone (Table 3): At 20°C, solubility is 0.1 g / 100 mL.
• Analysis: Caffeine is 20 times more soluble in acetone than Cocaine HCl. This is also a very significant difference.

"For example, if you had a mixture of caffeine and Cocaine HCl, washing with acetone would likely dissolve a good amount of caffeine while leaving most of the Cocaine HCl undissolved."

• Referencing the Charts:
  • Look at Table 2 (Caffeine) and Table 3 (Cocaine HCl), specifically for Acetone at a practical temperature like 20°C.
  • Caffeine solubility in acetone at 20°C = 2.0 g / 100 mL. This means 2 grams of caffeine can dissolve in 100 mL of acetone.
  • Cocaine HCl solubility in acetone at 20°C = 0.1 g / 100 mL. This means only 0.1 grams of Cocaine HCl can dissolve in 100 mL of acetone.
  • Conclusion: If you "wash" a mixture with a small amount of acetone, the acetone will preferentially dissolve the caffeine (up to 2.0 g/100 mL), while only a very small amount of Cocaine HCl (0.1 g/100 mL) will go into solution. This allows you to selectively remove caffeine from a solid mixture containing Cocaine HCl.

"Conversely, dissolving the mixture in water would preferentially dissolve Cocaine HCl over caffeine."

• Referencing the Charts:
  • Look at Table 2 (Caffeine) and Table 3 (Cocaine HCl), specifically for Water at a practical temperature like 20°C.
  • Cocaine HCl solubility in water at 20°C = 200 g / 100 mL.
  • Caffeine solubility in water at 20°C = 2.2 g / 100 mL.
  • Conclusion: If you add water to a mixture, the water will dissolve a massive amount of Cocaine HCl, while caffeine will only dissolve to a very limited extent. This would allow you to extract Cocaine HCl into the water layer, leaving most of the caffeine behind as an undissolved solid, or requiring much more water to dissolve it.

Crystallization​

• "By manipulating temperature and solvent choice, you could induce crystallization of a desired compound, leaving impurities in solution."
  • Referencing the Charts (General Principle): For both caffeine and Cocaine HCl in all solvents, notice that solubility decreases significantly as the temperature drops from 20°C to 1°C.
    • Caffeine in Water: 2.2 g/100 mL at 20°C drops to 1.5 g/100 mL at 1°C.
    • Cocaine HCl in Water: 200 g/100 mL at 20°C drops to 150 g/100 mL at 1°C.
    • Caffeine in Acetone: 2.0 g/100 mL at 20°C drops to 1.2 g/100 mL at 1°C.
    • Cocaine HCl in Acetone: 0.1 g/100 mL at 20°C drops to 0.04 g/100 mL at 1°C.
  • Applying to Crystallization:If you have a compound dissolved in a hot solvent, and then you cool that solution, the solubility decreases. This means the excess solute will come out of solution as a solid (crystallize).
    • For example, if you dissolved 200g of Cocaine HCl in 100mL of water at 20°C, and then cooled it down to 1°C, 50g of Cocaine HCl (200g - 150g) would ideally crystallize out, as its solubility has dropped.
    • Similarly, if you had a hot solution of caffeine in acetone, cooling it would cause caffeine to crystallize.
  • Leaving impurities in solution: If an impurity has different solubility characteristics (e.g., remains highly soluble even at lower temperatures, or is not very soluble to begin with in that solvent), it can be separated from the desired compound through crystallization.

but this is all guidance in a lab, bcuz we're not guaranteed perfect solubility limits, we dunno what else could be in there, nobody in lab gets 100% yield or purity

Another thing, heat is mean, and re-crystallizing with frozen water wont work (freeze water and lock everything in a frozen lattice) whereas acetone can get REAL cold before freezing helping with precipitation and crashing out allowing higher final yield
Btw, Cocaine is an ester, in the presence of hot water, especially over time, it can undergo hydrolysis, breaking down


See also https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2468170926000482, "However, a less-explored but forensically relevant pathway is the spontaneous, solid-state or moisture-mediated acid-base reaction of cocaine HCl. Because cocaine contains a basic tertiary amine, mixing its hydrochloride salt with an alkaline adulterant – such as sodium bicarbonate – creates a matrix susceptible to chemical conversion even in dry powders." if it has any baking soda mixed in, it can catalyze into free base with slight moisture

 

[streaM Freak]

....okay

Well does anyone know how to make acetone 100% dry? Isn't there a method to dry the acetone completely? Maybe anhydrous acetone isn't enough.

 

[streaM Freak]

You're slopping AI without knowing the issue.

Anyone know how to completely dry it and that is probably better than anhydrous acetone.

 

[jmc31337]

....okay

Well does anyone know how to make acetone 100% dry? Isn't there a method to dry the acetone completely? Maybe anhydrous acetone isn't enough.

>95%-99% pure annhydrous acetone according sds sheets Home Depot Klean Strip Acetone 100%
i think thats good enough

 

[placebonaut]

• Analysis: Caffeine is 20 times more soluble in acetone than Cocaine HCl. This is also a very significant difference.

"For example, if you had a mixture of caffeine and Cocaine HCl, washing with acetone would likely dissolve a good amount of caffeine while leaving most of the Cocaine HCl undissolved."

maybe this is what I'm missing to an extent, sorry I'm trying to learn, bare with me!

so in other words that 20 times differences is plenty enough for an acetone wash to remove enough of the caffeine to make it a viable wash for caffeine, is that what you're saying?

Conclusion: If you add water to a mixture, the water will dissolve a massive amount of Cocaine HCl, while caffeine will only dissolve to a very limited extent. This would allow you to extract Cocaine HCl into the water layer, leaving most of the caffeine behind as an undissolved solid, or requiring much more water to dissolve it.

isn't that exactly what we want?

Well does anyone know how to make acetone 100% dry? Isn't there a method to dry the acetone completely? Maybe anhydrous acetone isn't enough.

you can just buy anhydrous acetone, the specs on it will say how dry it is