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Heroin Is heroin dying out?? Losing popularity?

It's interesting from a lot of angles. Doesn't take a study to know the customer base is declining massively, ironically they go to great efforts to manufacture the high quality #4 we seem to always have, and we are one of the least likely places to have to worry about fent/zenes. But without customers to buy it, they'll just move on to whatever else makes money.

Heroin was (unfortunately) romanticised in it's own twisted way in the 90's. Kurt Cobain and your idols were doing it. It was naughty but there was an element of youthful rebellion to it. Kate Holden in her biography "In my skin" talks about this a lot. This is ancient history now. The stigma has (rightfully so) made it one of the most looked down upon things you could possibly do and while rappers definitely brought codeine and oxycodone into the mainstream I don't see H getting another round. A lot of aussies out their using hard drugs like Meth+GHB with an "at least i've never touched H" type of attitude. Also the fear of nitazene/fentanyl is another enormous deterrent for new customers.

Meth being the new replacement just attracts new customers so much easier. Being associated with smoking it normalises introduction to many different groups. There's no "I might overdose and die" mentality to new uninformed users that H will forever have. And despite how snortable our H is, it'll forever be associated with needles. But puffing on a pipe? how bad could that be right? It's not needles so that means its not for junkies, right?

Also synthetics will be the future i suspect, having to grow something out of the earth and then ship it/refine it/etc is a lot of risk, money, time and effort and much like real big businesses they'll optimise at the expense of everything.

H just has too many things going against it to stand the test of time imo, which sounds great if it wasn't for the fact that it's replacement is both more harmful to the community and ironically much less fun.
 
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I would like to point out that this whole idea of drug addiction escalating in the world, is nothing but fear porn to keep justifying the war on drugs (war on people). According to the World Bank statistic on drug use disorder, 0.7 % of the world population used to be addicted to drugs in 1990. You wanna know how much it is today? 0.7 % LOL
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/...=line&country=World+Bank+High+Income~OWID_WRL
 
sadmachine said:
It's interesting from a lot of angles. Doesn't take a study to know the customer base is declining massively, ironically they go to great efforts to manufacture the high quality #4 we seem to always have, and we are one of the least likely places to have to worry about fent/zenes. But without customers to buy it, they'll just move on to whatever else makes money.

Heroin was (unfortunately) romanticised in it's own twisted way in the 90's. Kurt Cobain and your idols were doing it. It was naughty but there was an element of youthful rebellion to it. Kate Holden in her biography "In my skin" talks about this a lot. This is ancient history now. The stigma has (rightfully so) made it one of the most looked down upon things you could possibly do and while rappers definitely brought codeine and oxycodone into the mainstream I don't see H getting another round. A lot of aussies out their using hard drugs like Meth+GHB with an "at least i've never touched H" type of attitude. Also the fear of nitazene/fentanyl is another enormous deterrent for new customers.

Meth being the new replacement just attracts new customers so much easier. Being associated with smoking it normalises introduction to many different groups. There's no "I might overdose and die" mentality to new uninformed users that H will forever have. And despite how snortable our H is, it'll forever be associated with needles. But puffing on a pipe? how bad could that be right? It's not needles so that means its not for junkies, right?

Also synthetics will be the future i suspect, having to grow something out of the earth and then ship it/refine it/etc is a lot of risk, money, time and effort and much like real big businesses they'll optimise at the expense of everything.

H just has too many things going against it to stand the test of time imo, which sounds great if it wasn't for the fact that it's replacement is both more harmful to the community and ironically much less fun.
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Being born in the Midwest USA but having spent a bit of time backpacking in AU I can say I'm not surprised at all about meth. I still to this day am amazed at how remote most of Australia is and it only makes sense meth would be a big issue. It's easily made in bulk with the right chem connections, and I have no doubt TONS of that crap is coming out of Asia if not being produced outright locally down under with black market precursor connections. The drug scene is dead. It's all toxic garbage. Frankly, one of the biggest things that has helped me stay straight is the simple fact there are no drugs worth doing anymore. Not my most noble statement, and nowhere near the entire truth, but it's a factor. I had my run, it was a good one, I survived (barely) and lived through the heydays when little old ladies were prescribed 5 OC 80s a day and a 16-year-old child getting one tooth pulled would get thrown 90 Vic 10s and all without a single doctor taking even a second to dwell on the long-term ramifications or ethical aspect of rabid and criminal overprescription. I've done everything, and I still cannot for the life of me fathom why *anyone* would do meth. It is an unbearably miserable drug. Synthetics are just so shitty too. I truly believe the peak of narcotics was the 90s/early 2000s. The coke, dope and pharmies were all top notch. Purely Synthetic drugs have no soul IMO.
 
jayyss said:
Have you guys sort of noticed that Heroin is slowly losing popularity? (not that it was ever popular lol)

The average age of a heroin / bupe/ done addict has to be over 40. In my area there are very few heroin addicts in their 20s--> they seem to prefer ice or other things.

So surely in another 20 years heroin will be almost gone from Australia?
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The fetty around my area is always on point.
 
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