Good beginner psychedelics ?

[crazyotter87]

I actually took MDA before I took MDMA, they're both pretty good. And MDA is more of a true psychedelic than MDMA. Sometimes with MDA I do start seeing fractals, it just never lasts very long.

I did MDMA before MDA, but I’ve actually done more MDA than MDMA. I completely agree that MDA is a true psychedelic. It’s not nearly as hedonistic as MDMA, but it’s pretty close.

If LSD is a 10 in terms of psychedelia, MDA is a 6 for me, while MDMA is more like a low 2. With MDA, the visuals tend to come in waves. I also experience hallucinations that are unlike those from any other psychedelic, more like the kinds of things people describe with deliriants. They were never bad per se, but I’ve definitely seen things that weren’t actually there.

Unlike with deliriants (which I’ve never done), I was always able to distinguish the hallucinations from reality. Another user I’ve exchanged DMs with described the same phenomenon. He said it felt like a movie was playing in your head.

It’s wonderful stuff as you already know ;-}

 

[Didgital]

I did MDMA before MDA, but I’ve actually done more MDA than MDMA. I completely agree that MDA is a true psychedelic. It’s not nearly as hedonistic as MDMA, but it’s pretty close.

If LSD is a 10 in terms of psychedelia, MDA is a 6 for me, while MDMA is more like a low 2. With MDA, the visuals tend to come in waves. I also experience hallucinations that are unlike those from any other psychedelic, more like the kinds of things people describe with deliriants. They were never bad per se, but I’ve definitely seen things that weren’t actually there.

Unlike with a deliriant (which I’ve never done), though, I was always able to distinguish the hallucinations from reality. Another user I’ve exchanged DMs with described the same phenomenon. He said it felt like a movie was playing in your head.

It’s wonderful stuff as you already know ;-}

I dont wanna derail thread too much but i explored MDA one night specifically for its visual/psychedelic aspect. I did a gram in a night. Id take it to a visual level which never lasts long, and the moment the visuals stopped id do more.

I swear to god id see smoke/haze everywhere in my living room and also whereever my vision focused it looked like a blue sparkler.

That was way too much MDA lol. Fortunately nothing bad happened but i did develop a weird rash right beneath my navel. After noticing it (it wasnt itchy) is when i stopped.

 

[crazyotter87]

I dont wanna derail thread too much but i explored MDA one night specifically for its visual/psychedelic aspect. I did a gram in a night. Id take it to a visual level which never lasts long, and the moment the visuals stopped id do more.

I swear to god id see smoke/haze everywhere in my living room and also whereever my vision focused it looked like a blue sparkler.

That was way too much MDA lol. Fortunately nothing bad happened but i did develop a weird rash right beneath my navel. After noticing it (it wasnt itchy) is when i stopped.

Haha, I’m going to try to stop yapping about how much I love the mind-melting feeling of serotonin releasers. A gram in a night is nuts. I’ve never redosed on it. The highest I ever pushed it was 200mg.

I wish I’d recorded even a loose trip report or some notes from my experiences with it. For the life of me, I can’t remember the specifics of what I have seen on it. I’m sure you’ve read the PiHKAL entry on MDA, right? I think Shulgin reported seeing smoke rings.

This is the first time I’ve heard of a rash. I wonder what causes that. Did antihistamines get rid of it, or did it go away on its own?

I do wonder what OP will decide to do…

 

[Didgital]

I’m sure you’ve read the PIKHAL entry on MDA, right? I think Shulgin reported seeing smoke rings.

This is the first time I’ve heard of a rash. I wonder what causes that. Did antihistamines get rid of it, or did it go away on its own?

I do wonder what OP will decide to do…

Def read pihkal and had most of the chemical story memorized for a few years but i actually dont remember him saying that. At first i was initially concerned therr was a fire in my house, but no it was pure hallucination. After stumbling around and seeing there waa no actual fire i relaxed (and likely took more MDA)

That was actually the last time i took MDA, prolly was 5 years ago. Since then ive taken 5-apb, 6-apb, lots of MDMA, methylone, ethylone, butylone (worst), 5-mapb etc

I still have grams of that MDA, this particular "brand" is known as dancelight..

 

[crazyotter87]

Def read pihkal and had most of the chemical story memorized for a few years but i actually dont remember him saying that. At first i was initially concerned therr was a fire in my house, but no it was pure hallucination. After stumbling around and seeing there waa no actual fire i relaxed (and likely took more MDA)

That was actually the last time i took MDA, prolly was 5 years ago. Since then ive taken 5-apb, 6-apb, lots of MDMA, methylone, ethylone, butylone (worst), 5-mapb etc

I still have grams of that MDA, this particular "brand" is known as dancelight..

(with 128 mg) Forty-five minutes after the second dosage, when I was seated in a room by myself, not smoking, and where there was no possible source of smoke rings, an abundance of curling gray smoke rings was readily observed in the environment whenever a relaxed approach to subjective observation was used. Visually these had complete reality and it seemed quite unneccessary to test their properties because it was surely known and fully appreciated that the source of the visual phenomena could not be external to the body. When I concentrated my attention on the details of the curling gray forms by trying to note how they would be affected by passing a finger through their apparent field, they melted away. Then, when I relaxed again, the smoke rings were there. I was as certain that they were really there as I am now sure that my head is on top of my body.

 

[Featherfall]

(with 128 mg) Forty-five minutes after the second dosage, when I was seated in a room by myself, not smoking, and where there was no possible source of smoke rings, an abundance of curling gray smoke rings was readily observed in the environment whenever a relaxed approach to subjective observation was used. Visually these had complete reality and it seemed quite unneccessary to test their properties because it was surely known and fully appreciated that the source of the visual phenomena could not be external to the body. When I concentrated my attention on the details of the curling gray forms by trying to note how they would be affected by passing a finger through their apparent field, they melted away. Then, when I relaxed again, the smoke rings were there. I was as certain that they were really there as I am now sure that my head is on top of my body.

reminds me of what Hoffman wrote about candle smoke and lsd

 

[Keif' Richards]

Hello there everybody. Now, I got into this whole Bluelight thing because I love administrative work. Filing, categorizing, collating, fornicating. consolidating, not to mention it comes with some personal responsibility and I'm a responsibility junkie.

At any rate, I'm moving this little guy over to the psychedelic sub-forum where it belongs. It will be happy there. It will be among its own kind.

My answer to your question is that the drug itself is less important than the correct dosage of a given drug along with the crucial mindset and setting preparation that you need to undertake to help ensure a positive experience. For instance, this girl I knew really liked to run around outisde while tripping. I prefer tripping indoors with good lighting/decorations/ambience, a selection of music that jives with everyone present and then usually talking, playing music, whatever. I always saw trips as a period of introspection, first and foremost, but almost equally about understanding the people I care about on a deeper level.

I'm digressing though. I think most people are going to recommend Psilocibin Mushrooms for a first trip as opposed to LSD (Acid). LSD can last 12 hours or more, which is a big problem if you end up having a bad trip. Make sure you are in a good space for the trip, feeling good, low stress. Pickl a place wh ,ere you will be comfortable and with people you like and trust. Start with a small amount, maybe a gram of dry mushroom and see how you feel in 45-60 minutes. If you feel you want more, you can take a bit more. Just be mindful and don't redose yourself into an uncomfortable situation.

BDDp>Psychedelica

 

[Larsetec]

For me personly, 2-CB.

 

[Unapproachable]

If you're a scared ass bitch and don't wanna get freaked out - go for 2CB or 4-HO-MET (these can be found in certain smoke shop shroom bars). This might be harder to find though if you're a friendless incel.

If you want the FULL experience - Drop 250mg of LSD the first time. Or a fat eighth of good mushrooms.

 

[insulinenjoyer]

Let me know if you have any questions.

Do you actually have access to MDA? Not to be confused with its little sister, MDMA, which isn't nearly as sassy.

I think that's a great choice for a first-time psychedelic, especially if you're doing it with friends!

not too sure about the access to MDA would have to ask the plug if they have any leads on where find any or where to start. Any thoughts on where to look ?

 

[Didgital]

Drop 250mg of LSD the first time

Surely you mean 250ug (micrograms). 250 milligrams is 2,500x doses. Not recommended for beginners lol.

 

[insulinenjoyer]

i disagree with the ppl saying shrooms. assuming you know what drugs you get don’t get scammed with different drugs than you asked for or get adulterated drugs

they are a much less friendly and a harsher psych with more propensity for bad trips,

they also have more unpleasant side effects like stomachs issuess shitting and vomitting and nausea.

they are less likely than chemical powders and tabs to be adulterated or misrepresented though - so there’s that. at least you know what you are taking if your source isn’t trustworthy and your testing system is weak or absent.

it shrooms are a heavy and deep trip. not exactly the most “recreational” or friendly psychedelic,

ones that are much easier in the mind psyche with more positive and euphoric outcomes would be lsd and its analogoues. 2cb (very light and fun and positive and doesnt last too long). NBoMe drugs - these can kill yku if you dose too high, but out of every psych ever, most would agree that they are the easiest psychologically speaking….no heavy mental aspec, just pretty m colors, music and euphoria) - with the always best to underdose out of safety. whatever you think you’re gonna take. take half of that and never redose.

mdma if you can get the real thing is also super user friendly unlike the harsh teacher that is mushrooms . more dangerous though

you have to be clean psych meds and avoid mixing other drugs including weed

Thank you for the insight, I'll definitely take that into consideration if I do take shrooms in the future don't wanna be shitting myself and stuff. Seems like the common rec in this thread would be MDMA overall.

 

[Didgital]

Any thoughts on where to look

Music festivals, raves, clubs, the internet... that's about all we can recommend on BL.

MDA is sadly a lot rarer than MDMA IME. I wish it was more available. When I see really good MDA, I generally stock up because it might be years before I see it again, not that I'm out there looking.