I quite like it I’d say. Probably my second fav. benzo with diazepam being first. More stimulating, more recreational I suppose though I find tolerance builds insanely fast. Almost makes me a little horny sometimes lol, only benzo that does that for me
Fascinating, I find every benzo pretty horny but I also respond really abnormally to them. Benzo munchies also hit me wicked hard.
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Ket's a beautiful thing. I'll likely cop a quarter ounce soon, it's tough for me to exceed like a third of a gram in a day even when I'm really pushing it. The most I can squeeze into a day if it's all I'm doing from wake to sleep is about 600mg. PCP analogs can go MUCH further imo, but the cost per dose is also just ludicrous right now and I'm mad broke. Thankfully acid, MDMA, ice, GHB, benzos, cannabis, mescaline/DMT (if you extract it yourself), sometimes MDA, sometimes cathinones, and ALWAYS my normal medical prescriptions, all remain cheap.
Don't I live in the UK and they're all unavailable here or I don't know where to find them. I remember seeing a vendor selling 3-ho and 3-meo for a pittance like 5 years ago but I didn't know what they were back then and just scrolled on. Oh how I pine. Dissociatives are a fascinating category but ketamine's all I've tried. Hadn't even heard until MXE until after it was banned. Where's the clandestine market for that anyway? Sure seems to be enough demand for it even years after it was globally scheduled.
I suppose you could argue it's a difficult drug to dose compulsively because you just end up forgetting what you're doing
I don't think I've ever required more than ~175mg to hole out even at my heaviest tolerance during my heaviest binge, but then a couple weeks later I slipped into a hole off ~75mg. Idk why my tolerance resets so hard, I suspect that noopept and memantine usage may relate but I've got genuinely no clue tbh.
That's a good point hahaha, I also experience intense tachyphylaxis from ketamine where the doses over the course of a day become progressively weaker and weaker, similarly to what happens with cannabis or nicotine for most people where the first hit of the day will typically hit the hardest. Ketamine and cannabis occupy very similar places in my life, honestly. People look at me weird when I say it, but THC, nitrous, salvia, memantine, and arylcyclohexylamines (ketamine, PCP and friends) all occupy the same space for me. They are all dissociative drugs that induce an altered state that allows me to affect some degree of change over my own mind.I suppose you could argue it's a difficult drug to dose compulsively because you just end up forgetting what you're doing
You should always consider any arylcyclohexylamine with a 2-keto substituted cyclohexane as being significantly harder to make, especially in clandestine settings. I've known of people to accomplish this in clandestine contexts but the yields are garbage and it's a messy, dangerous process overall when compared to making simpler arylcyclohexylamines which most people would classify as being PCP analogs as opposed to ketamine analogs. There are three routes I'm familiar with which could lead to MXE, all three of which involve some tricky precursors to acquire, but they're the same precursors you'd need for 3-MeO-PCP and 3-MeO-2'-Oxo-PCP (aka MXPCP) which people still make from time to time, so I know people are acquiring these things somewhere. You could view MXE as 3-MeO-2'-Oxo-PCE as opposed to the PCP homolog which would be MXPCP, just swapping out an ethyl group for a piperidine pretty much. The demand for it might seem high, but I really doubt it would be worth the pain in the ass of producing MXE when you could instead just make 3-MeO-PCP which requires less mass for a full dose.
Mine goes back to pretty much where it started, but only for a day or two before the amount I need doubles. I've also slipped into unexpected holes on relatively low doses too though. I think sometimes when you're in the right headspace you can just kinda slip in without being pushed. Had that happen to me a couple of weeks ago. Wasn't using my scale but took the same amount I'd been comfortable watching TV on the preceeding few days and was most surprised when I fell through the sofa and into the source.
All very inciteful and interesting thank you.
I hate when this shit happens, it sneaks up on me sometimes at 75mg when I haven't used ket for a few weeks, and it can throw me into a realm of profundity when I'm just trying to chill and make some mediocre glitch music hahaha.
I used to roll up to corporate meetings with harmaline or 3-HO-PCP or 2-FXE or ketamine crystals on my nostril, it was pretty funny tbh. People are much more jovial than I expected, about these things.
2C-B, Soma, 7-OH-Mitragynine and MDMA was the combo that my fiance and I took on the night of our engagement, soma really does pair amazingly with psychs and empathogens. Cider is also such a based adjunct here, you and I have quite similarly aligned tastes in drugs it seems.
I used to employ this experimental therapeutic model of 2C-B the night before a guided LSD session and then integrating with a low benzo dose after the LSD's afterglow dissipated, and I've yet to encounter anything more universally effective and useful for a wide array of issues. I've been collecting all of my notes and experience guiding sessions into a book-length piece and I'm specifically trying to figure out how to best articulate this 2C-B -> [Tolerance forming psychedelic] -> Low dose benzo pipeline. I need to run it with more people to explore it more, but so far it's yet to induce a single adverse event.Think I'll take some acid in the morning if I don't sleep in too late (might just stay up all night tbh). Flirting with the idea of some MDMA too but I have work Saturday morning so I might save it and do a candy flip some other time.
Just to but in here: People really are different in too many ways. Currently 2c-b is MAINLY giving me side-effects. Just had a chat about this in a different thread and with AI - btw @Shinji Ikari I really hope and recommend you to stay away from opioids. It's likely the reason I can hardly trip on lower doses at least and at higher ones the body load is really standing out beyond what I'm willing to tolerate.
Can't see me going down that rabbit hole tbh. I've taken one oxy in my life and that's pretty much the sum of my opioid experience.
