Recovery Wanted to ask others, who went through Kratom Withdrawal(Or similar feelings), what steps can be taken for improving self energy, mood, etc.

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Hi all, I hope you're staying safe. We stopped using Kratom three weeks ago and have been experiencing persistent emotional numbness and flatness. As someone with ADHD, I’ve been relying on medication for mood and focus, but now I feel a heavy depressive weight that’s unacknowledged. We’re in the healing phase, but the combination of numbness, fatigue, low motivation, and lack of joy is overwhelming. Are there any supplements or strategies others recommend to help revitalize mental health? It’s strange feeling this blankness—natural, but unsettling.

Would appreciate any advice or shared experiences.
 
Takes me a good few months to recover from daily Kratom use.
Done it 3 times in periods of 6-12months in the past.

As someone who trains alot i can say that has been my cure.
Start light maybe just with long walks daily.
Write down how much you move daily and just try to increase the amount slowly.

When ready add some light training in whatever capacity is possible, could be just some bodyweight squats, pushups etc.

Diet is also very important, make sure to eat alot of clean food even if its hard.
Make soups/stews if its hard to eat.

Writing this down is also a good idea, try to get alot of protein esp.
 
try to get alot of protein esp.
i second this
i feel it is crucial to recovery of any sort as the body has to have proteins to heal.

these days if i aint feeling food i will start with a protein "shake". something happens and it becomes like kindling. feed the fire

keep water intake high (hydrate with water)
after 3 weeks there really is not a lot that i know of other than more time. i mean there are the short term meds like gabapentinoids, benzodiazepines and the like but this time has passed ime and its either keep going or go back.

were the dependencies on kratom at super high daily doses?
 
I would implement regular exercise into your lives.

Exercise stimulates the production and regulation of neurotransmitters.

With the removal of the kratom your system is a little scrambled.

Look up Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome or PAWS.

“include anxiety, dysphoria, anhedonia, sleep disturbance, cognitive impairment”

PAWS is likely the worst coming off a long term benzo dependency, but alcohol can be significant and opiates as well.

What i would consider is picking up some neuro transmitter precursors. Take them like ten minutes before you exercise… and believe me if i ever find the sick evil bastard that made the cure for fatigue exercise they will be berated at a near lethal level.

Tryptophan, Tyrosine are a few to look into. Some of the precursors have a very short functional bioavailability. This is why you want to take some of them right before exercise. Exercise stimulates the production, so it can be beneficial to have the precursors on board.

There are quite a few beneficial techniques out there you can use to treat and resolve the symptoms of PAWS.
 
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Exercise is the only thing that helped me, along with a few months of a SARM. However, overall time is what overcomes the PAWS. The post-acute period seems to get longer the more times one relapses and quits. I mostly restarted because, after almost a year, still felt like shit.
 
Hi all, I hope you're staying safe. We stopped using Kratom three weeks ago and have been experiencing persistent emotional numbness and flatness. As someone with ADHD, I’ve been relying on medication for mood and focus, but now I feel a heavy depressive weight that’s unacknowledged. We’re in the healing phase, but the combination of numbness, fatigue, low motivation, and lack of joy is overwhelming. Are there any supplements or strategies others recommend to help revitalize mental health? It’s strange feeling this blankness—natural, but unsettling.

Would appreciate any advice or shared experiences.


Honestly bro, this is how it is, you just got to grin and bear it. I find people that look for ways to feel better for facing consequences of things they brought on themselves, they do not get the full experience of why you should not do this again and it leads to constant relapse, even if they were predisposed to relapse anyways, having the withdrawal be somewhat pain free leads to ignoring the overall of destroying your life, the other side effects besides the acute, with those that actually suffer through full WD's lasting longer (in sobriety) than those that have an easy time, I have seen it play out a million times.
 
like other people said, exercise is a big one. even light exercise like going for a walk, stretching, etc is a big help. it can be hard to do, especially if you were using the kratom at all for pain.

i’ve used and gotten hooked on kratom on and off for years due to severe pain. i’m physically handicapped and my disabilities cause a lot of pain. but ive personally found yoga to be what works best for me. it’s exercise that you can control the intensity of, pushes you without being incredibly tiring, and it’s very calming and meditative. i tend to do some most days, some days it’s a light workout and some days i’m pushing myself. like any exercise too it helps with mood and releases endorphins. in my experience it’s much more calming and anxiolytic than other forms of exercise. yoga has been a big help with my pain and mood when not using kratom

basic supplementation with things like magnesium glycinate, l-theanine, B12, Vit D will make more of a difference in mood and energy than you’d expect. if you like tea, there’s all kinds of tea and herbs that have proven health benefits. my nightly cup of sleepytime chamomile tea helps me relax and sleep better. green tea is chock-full of antioxidants and even other herbs like ginger, lavender, peppermint, etc have beneficial effects on one’s health, mood, and energy. there’s all kinds of stress relief and energy improving tea blends that, while subtle, are helpful (at least to me)
 
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Hi all, I hope you're staying safe. We stopped using Kratom three weeks ago and have been experiencing persistent emotional numbness and flatness. As someone with ADHD, I’ve been relying on medication for mood and focus, but now I feel a heavy depressive weight that’s unacknowledged. We’re in the healing phase, but the combination of numbness, fatigue, low motivation, and lack of joy is overwhelming. Are there any supplements or strategies others recommend to help revitalize mental health? It’s strange feeling this blankness—natural, but unsettling.
Would appreciate any advice or shared experiences.
I live in Florida, and Kratom is really in style right now it seems like. A lot of people say "it's just like coffee but better," and drink it everyday. I starting falling into this trap and eventually got into a bad habit of having a can of mitra 9 kratom seltzer a day. On a few days I had two cans, but it was more or less steady at a can a day for about two months. On days when I didn't have the seltzer I would have different kratom drinks. Two months of daily use ceased when I started traveling ten days ago. I noticed very strong fatigue/flat effect and mood swings. Seemed like I could hardly stay awake throughout the day. Random outbursts of anger. For me, what has helped is swimming. Swimming to the point of real exertion would help get my mind off the withdrawal. Aside from that I've been consuming more caffeine than normal. Not sure that really helps but I've started doing that to fight the fatigue off.
 
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