It was fascinating, one of the best stims I've ever used but quite pricey given you need like an eighth of a gram for a dose. A perfect halfway of MPH and dexedrine in many ways.
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Most Euphoric Stimulant?
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TheLightBringer
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Damn, your description sounds like exactly what I was looking for when I was early in my use. A stimulant that felt like a mix between D-MPH and D-amph was always my image of the perfect stim at that time. Though reports seem very mixed on MDPM online
Later down the line and even now id say my mental image of a perfect stim for me would be a slightly more serotonergic D-meth. 4-MAR came pretty close but not close enough… I guess my perfect drug would be a slightly more serotonergic 4-MAR with mild - moderate psychedelia on top….
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Second meth and mdma. I also enjoyed snorting dexies when I could get them.
Also, going to try khat soon now a friend has sourced some plants.
I have bipolar 1 and medications have stopped my euphoric manic episodes, so I occasionally use ice to feel like I'm flying high again.
Also, going to try khat soon now a friend has sourced some plants.
I have bipolar 1 and medications have stopped my euphoric manic episodes, so I occasionally use ice to feel like I'm flying high again.
I have 4g of meth on my way. Where I live meth isn't avaiable, everyone abuse coke by snorting or smoking it as crack. Lot of low quality blow and nothing more. Even speed (EU) is almost impossible to score and if so, the quality is like 15-20% if you're lucky enough and payed for it like 40€ a gram. Only through a friend I smoked meth once for free, he bought it at an insanly high price from a mafia-releated guy at more than 100€ per gram.
Smoked meth one time buying a gram in the DW for like 45€ shipped. Now I bought it again from the DW at 33€/g and it's D-Meth so better stuff, in theory.
You're used to smoke ice? if so, with an high tolerance for stims (snorting more than 500mg of methylphenidate in 24h no prob, IVd 100mg methylphenidate at once and got insanely euphoric with this amazing rush, also used 2g of racemic amphetamine-eurospeed in one sitting of a night boofing half gram at once- estimated purity 25-30% and tested with reagents, it's real speed) how much ice is normal smoking in a meth pipe in a single binge of 24h? a gram? did you have hints like keep the vapor inside and exhale after couple seconds or blow clouds as I inhale? Is it true the myth of meth recrystallize inside the lungs? Hints for blowing clouds and taking big tokes? Cause my issue is when it heats up and became liquid, its almost impossible to take a nice hit.
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A gram in 24 hours is too much in my opinion and will lead to problems if you're smoking it.
Use a meth pipe/oil burner, put a small amount in and cover hole with pinky finger gently heat until starts to liquify. Then let it cool n solidify. You can inhale any vapour. Then cover hole with pinky again and heat the crystal gently and rotate the pipe slightly as you heat the liquid it should start throwing off smoke. Wait until the bowl is full, remove heat and pinky and inhale. Repeat another couple tines n see how you feel. Personally I hold it in for a long time and try and exhale minimal amounts vapour. Meth recrystallized in your lungs is a load of shite.
A point to two points should be plenty to keep you up for 24 hours. Using more is just going to give more negative side effects and be wasteful
Use a meth pipe/oil burner, put a small amount in and cover hole with pinky finger gently heat until starts to liquify. Then let it cool n solidify. You can inhale any vapour. Then cover hole with pinky again and heat the crystal gently and rotate the pipe slightly as you heat the liquid it should start throwing off smoke. Wait until the bowl is full, remove heat and pinky and inhale. Repeat another couple tines n see how you feel. Personally I hold it in for a long time and try and exhale minimal amounts vapour. Meth recrystallized in your lungs is a load of shite.
A point to two points should be plenty to keep you up for 24 hours. Using more is just going to give more negative side effects and be wasteful
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Holy fuck where do you live where speed is 40€ a gram and only 20% pure? Where I live id say it averages like 50 - 60% pure and costs like ~18€ or so per gram
It's written below my profile pic: Italy. Lots of shitty coke and crap heroin on average in the streets and no pharma drugs. Ofc if you have the right plug you can score more easily quality stuff but I were talking the average costs and quality which is crap.
Thanks for replying. It was helpful, I'll try this method to let meth liquify first closing the hole and then when it became "icy" I'll do as you said (rotating while closing hole) and take a hit. But you mean during a binge of 24h or 16h I will smoke only 0.1 to 0.2g? Even with my high tolerance, I mean, it isn't super skyrocket tolerance but it's definitely an heavy tolerance for stimulants and meth have cross tolerance with speed or methylphenidate, using half gram of methylphenidate and IVd 100mg in one shot during binges and snorted even more like my 28 days worth of pills in 4 days straight, will get me high a 0.2g smoked? Or you're talking about non tolerant people dosages? Did you took into account my tolerance?
Thanks for the tips
edit: How long does it takes to smoke a 0.2g for you, for example? How's your tolerance? I'm asking cause I smoked meth only once and I'm a noob regarding meth, so trying to understand how to get the most out of it smoking it. Guess the timespan matters a lot.
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Well, even taking into account to your tolerance I'd start low and go slow. For two reasons. One, meth lasts as really long time compared to other stimulants, if you go too far you'll be uncomfortable for a long time. Two, the higher the dose the more side effects such as neurotoxicity. Yeah you have tolerance but if it's good meth you still shouldn't need much.
Smoking is a good way to use I think because it lets you titrate the dose up slowly so you get to where you want to be.
A point to two should definitely have you up for 24 hours.
Also when rolling the liquid round the pipe try not to roll it past halfway up the side of the bowl. Makes it hard to cover hole and not burn your fingers as you roll it back again.
You can always take more but push it too far and you can't really stop it without antipsychotics like quetiapine and olanzapine which are horrible drugs IMHO. Benzos will take the edge off.
Meth is a very strong and dangerous substance. Play with care.
Smoking is a good way to use I think because it lets you titrate the dose up slowly so you get to where you want to be.
A point to two should definitely have you up for 24 hours.
Also when rolling the liquid round the pipe try not to roll it past halfway up the side of the bowl. Makes it hard to cover hole and not burn your fingers as you roll it back again.
You can always take more but push it too far and you can't really stop it without antipsychotics like quetiapine and olanzapine which are horrible drugs IMHO. Benzos will take the edge off.
Meth is a very strong and dangerous substance. Play with care.
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In regards to my use/tolerance I try to keep it low as possible. Probably put half a point in pipe and smoke that in the morning first thing and it works all day. If I use more it's hard to sleep. And not sleeping causes whole host of problems. I try to use less than a point a day but sometimes more in extreme situations. I never use as high as 0.2 these days. It will also depend on your gear but the stuff I use is pretty clean. I do notice difference between different products though. However they're all still strong.
Get silly with this stuff and it will fuck you up. And I'm fucked up enough as is.
Get silly with this stuff and it will fuck you up. And I'm fucked up enough as is.
I know this is more of a "chasing the rush" type of discourse, but I do just want to mention that dissolving 75mg in a large bottle of powerade or something and sipping it throughout a day or two is also a good way to get to know how your tolerance sits, as you can slowly sip it throughout the day.
Ok thanks guys for the tips. I will start by weight a 0.2g and put it in the pipe or maybe a 0.1g and test the stuff. In my country there isn't any meth so I have to order on the DW and rely to that for drugs cause I don''t have any reliable plug and don't wanna any cause here there's so much shit going around and drugs aren't near as pure or funny. Or you have the right plug or you going to buy shit 99% of the times. If I will need more than 0.2g or my stuff is cut heavily or I simply have such high tolerance which doesn't makes any sense. anyways, today my stuff is on delivery so i'll smoke some ice and then I will report back my experience.
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Whats your usual dose of street speed?
You said the speed in your country is around 20% pure. If we assume the meth you have is close to 99% pure (wishful thinking but lets start with that assumption as we taper up dosage and gauge potency).
Methamphetamine is roughly 2x as potent as amphetamine. So if there is 200mg of amphetamine in your street speed then 0.1g of methamphetamine would equal a whole gram of your street speed.
You said you boofed 0.5g of a speed you estimated to be 25 - 30% pure, that would equal about 0.0625 to 0.075g meth or 62,5 - 75mg of meth. Assuming the meth is pure
Start with 50 - 100mg, if its pure it will blow your socks off compared to your street speed. You can always smoke another 50mg if you’re not satisfied
Thank all for the replies. I've just have some and I started very slow. Nothing comprared to amphetamine (speed, EU), I by weighting a 200mg then i split the dosage in 5 charge for pipe (=40ish mg each charge) and I didn't expect that but the stuff I goddamn pure. Don't know the exact % but closest to purity with some cuts (if cutted, is cutted very well and not too much) I would ssume that the speed is AT LEAST 75% but I will bet money that is higher or eual than 85%. Following the dosages of psychonautwiki where the referrral drug is 100% pure, a strong dosage start at 20-60mg. I did just 5 tokes from the pipe and I were definitly high and euphoric, a kind of rush very nice (it's an euphemism) and my HR goes up to 130-140 per minute and I were very satisfied. Nothing compared the first meth i bought in march, that were garbage stuff.
Remember a thing, I were addicted to a-PiHP and NEP and I did a binge long 8 months were i were constantly abused them every day, using so much a.PiHP and on average almost 1g of NEP everyday, also used hexen but never smoked it. THIS meth is D-Methamphetamine and I guess that is almost pure cause it surpass the high that NEP can do, even a-PiHP being a pyros relatively potent, and the quality of the shops of RCs were always good, at least before the NL ban, I were in 2021 and NEP were illegal in my country since 2020 but every package came home safely, never lost an RCs shipping. This meth is superior to NEP, less side effects, anything comparable as anxiety or panic attacks. Today I feel a little less the meth cause of the paliperidone i took yesterday at 10pm (6mg, half-life 23h) SO my receptors can be still blocked since I were taking this med to induce me sleep and get rid off the hallucinations due to stim abuse. SO maybe it started working well, it's the 3rd of 4th day in a row that I took it so can be that. Anyways, today I will re-smoke meth this night and see how it goes.
The pipe is like sticked to my fingers cause this night I feel asleep at 11pm and woke up at 3am and charge the pipe and smoke a bowl. Besides my skyrocket tolerance, I have sevre ADHD so before filling the gap of tolerance+relax from stims due to ADHD and start having much powerful effects like euphoria or rush oof energy I had taken also at 10pm that night 6mg paliperidone so I managed to fell asleep after 1h-1.5h.
This meth is defintely D-Meth cause it has no particular effects on cardiovascular system except the high BPM when having the rush. Now I don't feel any palpitation but feel completly relaxed even if I'm on uppers (thanks shitty ADHD) and consumed 6mg of clonazepam this morning so I'm more relaxed than my natural state but also that means little to no concentration of L-Meth. I don't feel chest pressure or palpitation even if I have 110 BPM at rest.
Remember a thing, I were addicted to a-PiHP and NEP and I did a binge long 8 months were i were constantly abused them every day, using so much a.PiHP and on average almost 1g of NEP everyday, also used hexen but never smoked it. THIS meth is D-Methamphetamine and I guess that is almost pure cause it surpass the high that NEP can do, even a-PiHP being a pyros relatively potent, and the quality of the shops of RCs were always good, at least before the NL ban, I were in 2021 and NEP were illegal in my country since 2020 but every package came home safely, never lost an RCs shipping. This meth is superior to NEP, less side effects, anything comparable as anxiety or panic attacks. Today I feel a little less the meth cause of the paliperidone i took yesterday at 10pm (6mg, half-life 23h) SO my receptors can be still blocked since I were taking this med to induce me sleep and get rid off the hallucinations due to stim abuse. SO maybe it started working well, it's the 3rd of 4th day in a row that I took it so can be that. Anyways, today I will re-smoke meth this night and see how it goes.
The pipe is like sticked to my fingers cause this night I feel asleep at 11pm and woke up at 3am and charge the pipe and smoke a bowl. Besides my skyrocket tolerance, I have sevre ADHD so before filling the gap of tolerance+relax from stims due to ADHD and start having much powerful effects like euphoria or rush oof energy I had taken also at 10pm that night 6mg paliperidone so I managed to fell asleep after 1h-1.5h.
This meth is defintely D-Meth cause it has no particular effects on cardiovascular system except the high BPM when having the rush. Now I don't feel any palpitation but feel completly relaxed even if I'm on uppers (thanks shitty ADHD) and consumed 6mg of clonazepam this morning so I'm more relaxed than my natural state but also that means little to no concentration of L-Meth. I don't feel chest pressure or palpitation even if I have 110 BPM at rest.
It's wise to have landing gears like this handy when working with any longlasting stimulant. Beware though that if ice becomes a habit, the landing gear may become one too and that can be quite dangerous.
I really love NEP and find it to be a unique entity separate from amphetamine/methamphetamine and closer to MDMA and coca alkaloids, honestly it reminds me more of ghoulshly large doses of coca tea (especially 1/8th of a kilogram individual doses) than it does cocaine. The hallucinatory potential is very real with NEP, I love mixing it with LSD and 2C-B as a result of that. When combined with DOM it was one of the most insanely horny drugs of my life, though when I mixed NEP and 25E-NBOH it strangely transformed the sexual elements of both of those drugs into a non-sexual energy of just being really productive at getting stuff done. At least ice and acid together have the potential to be pro-sexual if you choose to steer it that way.
You should also experiment with oral and intranasal dosing! It's worth familiarizing yourself with those routes of administration imo at least.
It's common for people to end up in a loop with one hand holding a pipe and the other hand reloading it or clicking/writing/doing whatever. It requires noticeably lower doses per hit than a pipe, but many people I know who've used ice for a long time and prefer it vaporized will dissolve it into PG and
If you ever go to use sedatives of very short duration with meth, a commonly encountered issue is that something like alprazolam (Xanax) will wear off far faster than meth will. I'll eat or insufflate some ice and still noticeably feel a meaningful stimulation for about 20 hours, and residual stimulation up until 36-40 hours after dosing. I personally find that all sedatives are weakened even in the presence of just the weaker residual stimulation, and sometimes I'd take an accidentally large dose of long-lasting benzos too close to the end of that period, then leading the benzos to feel way stronger once the residual stimulation wore off, sometimes blacking me out by surprise.
I'm glad you accessed some clean shit, as far as just using ice as a functional stimulant I rarely find I need to exceed ~40mg in a 36 hour period. When I was in university, I spent 3 years sleeping ~3.5 nights a week because I was very consistently eating methamphetamine to exhibit absolutely unhealthy and unsustainable degrees of productivity. What's fucked up is that such productivity fuels my overall happiness in life, so it's tricky to combat depression without exerting a ton of energy due to quirks of my mind and shit I'm working on changing but have yet to successfully change. I'm a lot more comfortable living slower nowadays, but I was terminally ill until I was 16 and I think that most people who've experienced that shit at some point and the dice rolled to keep them here, at least everyone I've spoken to who has experienced that, they also experience a drive towards manic states that is pushed by the feeling of the end being imminent. I first ran into ice as a 15 year old in the form of counterfeit Adderall tablets, 5-10mg per tablet. To this day I prefer that exact dose per unit orally, for some reason vaporized ice is useless to me and intranasal stuff is less useful than oral (and it hurts like a motherfucker).