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(Chronic users) Question -- Green out? you?

Those pure bong rips, Blunt/ pure joints were along the times we baked cakes. With a youthful drive and still somehow able to trip THC style were the greenest moments.

Never took me to the realm were those synthetic Cannabinoids could take me. There are some stronger THC analogues available, some supposedly give a stronger high then delta-9. No way that i ll see those soon but curious

I would be real careful with synthetic cannabinoids -- too many stories of ppl who 'cant get high of delta-9 anymore' --- i mean jwh products almost exclusively when I say that but id be careful with all of em.

my cannabinoid receptors are not ones I am willing to play with.....I learned my lesson with opi's
 
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It was never worth it even in the days when the legal stuff wasn't around. Unless you were moving pounds there was no profit in it at all. Everyone that was fucking around with buying cutie pies and that kind of weight never made a dime. At best you could just cover your own habit. It has been a long time since I sold weed but back in the day I was only making like $20-$50 off every $250-$300 I moved. In other words if I sold about a pound then I got to smoke about an ounce for free.

It was never worth the huge pain in the ass. Phone ringing at all hours of the night. Stupid people showing up at 3am sometimes. All pissed off because you wouldn't get up and sell them a dime bag. Taking huge risks every time you re-upped or even just had more than a 20 sack on you. No idea how I managed to always dodge the felony. Back when I sold in my state anything above a quarter ounce was a felony charge. Holding just two dime bags? Felony charge because it's automatically intent to distribute if you have more than one bag on you or one bag with more than 7 grams in it. Anything above an ounce was an additional felony charge for trafficking. Get caught with a blunt/joint? That 5 bucks worth of weed costs you $500 in fines plus two years of peeing in a cup. Get caught with a pipe or some papers? Additional $300 fine plus misdemeanor charge for paraphernalia. God forbid they caught you picking up your weekly reup or growing. They'll toss your little planted clone on the scale soil, pot, stake+rope and all then claim that's how much weed they caught you with. Even seeds were a charge back then.

We smoked a lot of weed in those days. Granted, it was typically Mexican brick weed or "hydro" (mids) if you were lucky enough to know a local grower. Couldn't even move the good stuff because people were so accustomed to the brick weed prices and would scoff and paying more for quality. But my friends and I stayed baked. Start the day with a big ol' blunt and keep puffing until the middle of the night. Had enough roaches in a box to smoke on for weeks whenever the droughts would come around. My tolerance was through the roof back then. We made our own edibles out of peanut butter, cooking oil (or butter) and crackers. Firecrackers I think we called them. Throw about a joints worth in each and bake them at 375F for 20 minutes. Would get you couch locked and make you pass the fuck out for 12+ hours.

People hate on the old seedy brick weed we smoked back in the day now but I preferred the high we got from it. Something about it not being bred to insane THC levels at the expense of everything else I guess. Used to get some "mids" back then that was dark red. Hard to describe the color. Think purple stuff but with a different tint I guess. Loved that shit. I guess it was an indica of some kind. Have been searching for years and have never found anything like it. Would couch lock you and relax you. Great for pain. Gave you the munchies but not as bad as everything else I've smoked over the years. Could chill out a crack head. I'd take it all day over the "higher quality" weed that's been around for the past 15-20 years.

Back in the day I could smoke all day every day and eat edibles along with it and never get overly high. I did throw up once or twice from too much smoke going down the wrong tube but I never got bad anxiety or felt bad.

This new shit is different. I've tried it all. Edibles, hash, dabs, high quality flower and everything else the mad scientists of the world have come up with. If I smoke too much of this new shit I sometimes get in a bad way to the point where I have to have a xanax. Weed wasn't like that when I was in high school.

Ironically, my parents said the same thing about the weed I was smoking in high school back then they first caught on that I was smoking. All the old folks said it was too strong. Now that my parents are retired and smoking again they've turned into absolute stoners. They say the same thing about weed now. My Dad has gotten in trouble multiple times with gummy bears over the past couple of years. He didn't understand that the shit sold in the local stores is different from the stuff in the legal state that borders us. He got all wigged out on Delta 8 or whatever the fuck they're selling over the counter here now. He ordered some shit from somewhere on the internet that was far too strong for his tolerance. He's got a bottle of Willie Nelson's THC liquor that he loves. Good stuff. I take a nip whenever my stomach gets upset and it sorts me right out. But that's the exception to the rule I guess. A lot of this OTC stuff is too strong and gets me in a bad way. A lot of the legit weed I know came from a dispensary can do the same thing. I try to be careful about my intake now that my tolerance is lower than when I was in my 20s.

These days I can take 2-3 puffs of my little pipe and be good for hours. I'm serious when I say I can purchase one of those pre-rolled large joints and smoke on it all week if I bust it open and smoke it through a pipe. I've noticed some of this "legal" shit really does a number on my stomach the next day. If I smoke some in the evening I'll wake up with the water mouth the next morning. I've never puked from it but it gives me the same kind of feeling.

I'm still shocked that they're letting the local smoke shops sell the stuff so openly. 20-25 years ago the local cops would have busted their asses fast. It's kind of funny when you walk into one. They have an entire counter dedicated to the legal weed on one side. On the other side an entire counter dedicated to glassware with a huge sign that says "FOR TOBACCO USE ONLY" to cover their asses. Then there is the entire counter dedicated to kratom extracts and 7-oh products as well. Which is another thing I can't believe they're letting them get away with. When I was in high school you couldn't even operate a head shop here that only sold glassware. The only one in town had to rotate tables at the flea market, was only open maybe 5 days a month and was constantly getting harassed by the local cops. Now the cops don't seem to give a fuck at all. They went from running you in for having a roach to letting people walk with an ounce in their pocket. They only seem to bring out the old "I smell weed" excuse when they pull you over in an attempt to search your car looking for other drugs.

The teenagers today don't know how good they have it.
 
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^ Selling weed was such fucking hassle though. I only soldf it a few times because profit margins where just not there. By the time you wherre done selling it at best you could smoke for free usually. I dont miss the good old days when you had to hope your dealer was home to get weed.

Kids these days hae no idea how fucking good they have it. I can remember having the choice of shitty butane hash and shitty fucking weed lol. Teenagers these days couldnt hndle that shit lol. Theyd cough up a lung trying to smoke that shit

No thanks i much prefer being able to go to the store or buy it untaxed online. Thats what i do cause i dont want my money going to the gov
 
I remember when I first started hanging out with my friend who was born in Mexico. We kept offering him weed and he refused to smoke it with us unless we'd grown it ourselves. I thought he was just a pot snob. But one day I was smoking a blunt when he was hanging out at my house and I offered him a hit. Conversation went something like this:

Me: You wanna hit it?
Him: Is it homegrown?
Me: No I bought it from <x>
Him: No thanks
Me: How come you never want to hit it when I buy it from <x>?
Him: Because it's Mexican dirt weed
Me: So?
Him: You know what they do that that stuff don't you?
Me: No
Him: When they package it up to ship it over the border they throw a huge party, get drunk as fuck on beer, then they all piss on it for good luck.
Me: You're full of shit
Him: My Dad did it all of the time

I believed him considering both his parents got a lot of time for bringing bricks of pot and cocaine over the border. The only reason he was in the country was because they got caught on this side of the border and he was like 12 years old at the time (he was in the truck).

But hey who doesn't love a little piss, dog hair and random bits of plastic with their bud?
 
^ I never had mexican dirt weed i dont think. Doubt it was ever available in Canada. Back in the day we usually had shitty butane hash
 
After the 1990's, no

Before that, yes

What period of time are you talking about?

The mid 90's that when i started smoking weed. Wel actually first smoked hash in 94 but no weed until 96. Hash was alot more common here then weed for some reason
 
The mid 90's that when i started smoking weed. Wel actually first smoked hash in 94 but no weed until 96. Hash was alot more common here then weed for some reason
Trust me... it was everywhere in North America (US and CANADA) until we figured out we could grow it and get better product. The basic genetics were fine; but Cartel growers did not remove male plants so no sinsemilla. Poor storage meant that even that inferior weed deteriorated during "shipment" and distribution.

Better weed was available, but trust me dirt weed was still widely sold. The internet and Project Overgrow spread the modern cannabis production beyond individual pioneers to what it is today.

I can still remember waiting for seeds to arrive from Amsterdam in that late 1980's for my indoor grow experiments. Rocked HPS until I got my hands on some serious LED components in the early 2000's. At that time a lot of folks on them internet sites thought that those suggesting LEDs could grow weed were ridiculed.
 
Trust me... it was everywhere in North America (US and CANADA) until we figured out we could grow it and get better product. The basic genetics were fine; but Cartel growers did not remove male plants so no sinsemilla. Poor storage meant that even that inferior weed deteriorated during "shipment" and distribution.

Better weed was available, but trust me dirt weed was still widely sold. The internet and Project Overgrow spread the modern cannabis production beyond individual pioneers to what it is today.

I can still remember waiting for seeds to arrive from Amsterdam in that late 1980's for my indoor grow experiments. Rocked HPS until I got my hands on some serious LED components in the early 2000's. At that time a lot of folks on them internet sites thought that those suggesting LEDs could grow weed were ridiculed.

Ya i always wondered why more people years ago didnt just grow their own weed but i guess if you couldnt get the seeds what could you do? Oh they didnt remove male plants? Thats really weird. So even good strains would fucking suck for that reason alone. Weird because weed from Mexico now is usually associated with really good strains like Acapulco gold and other sativas.

And ya degradation during storage and shipping would also be a problem. I remember gettng horrible dried out shitty fucking weed goddamn. Here it was almost always ground up before you bought it and the dealer always kept the kief. So ya lots of reasons why it would be shittier then the weed today
 
2) Do you think there is a level of THC that would be "Uncomfortable"
Definitely #2 tho i dont know what that dose is.

When i was young i grew a huge outdoor plant that sadly had a bunch of budworms. I meticulously got them out, but any affected bud i threw in a big mason jar filled with everclear which i let soak for a week. Filtered it out and concentrated to about 4 shots of liquid.

Drinking a shot (prolly the equivalent of 2 oz) was just terrible. I was completely debilitated and having strong close eye visuals, i was super sensitive to light and sound so i lay in the dark silence and basically tripped balls for half a day, i could barely walk, i couldnt actually sleep but i felt in a haze/trance/daydream state.

Not fun.
 
I remember when I first started hanging out with my friend who was born in Mexico. We kept offering him weed and he refused to smoke it with us unless we'd grown it ourselves. I thought he was just a pot snob. But one day I was smoking a blunt when he was hanging out at my house and I offered him a hit. Conversation went something like this:

Me: You wanna hit it?
Him: Is it homegrown?
Me: No I bought it from <x>
Him: No thanks
Me: How come you never want to hit it when I buy it from <x>?
Him: Because it's Mexican dirt weed
Me: So?
Him: You know what they do that that stuff don't you?
Me: No
Him: When they package it up to ship it over the border they throw a huge party, get drunk as fuck on beer, then they all piss on it for good luck.
Me: You're full of shit
Him: My Dad did it all of the time

I believed him considering both his parents got a lot of time for bringing bricks of pot and cocaine over the border. The only reason he was in the country was because they got caught on this side of the border and he was like 12 years old at the time (he was in the truck).

But hey who doesn't love a little piss, dog hair and random bits of plastic with their bud?

I also have heard variations of this from pretty reputable sources. Usually it goes something like "You know they piss on the plants over there to keep the coyotes/wolves away right?" -- "I do not know and would not like to since I already have purchased and am smoking this though"

Yea I had also heard from pretty solid sources that we were smokin on some like 70s weed in the 90s -- coulda been hyperbole as even good weed seems to do nothing after about 3 yrs
Definitely #2 tho i dont know what that dose is.

When i was young i grew a huge outdoor plant that sadly had a bunch of budworms. I meticulously got them out, but any affected bud i threw in a big mason jar filled with everclear which i let soak for a week. Filtered it out and concentrated to about 4 shots of liquid.

Drinking a shot (prolly the equivalent of 2 oz) was just terrible. I was completely debilitated and having strong close eye visuals, i was super sensitive to light and sound so i lay in the dark silence and basically tripped balls for half a day, i could barely walk, i couldnt actually sleep but i felt in a haze/trance/daydream state.

Not fun.

Youll get a kick out of this one -- I had a friend buy a zip for 450 once and talkin it up so much --- "Look at all the orange hairs" -- Dude the 'orange hairs' are moving and alive. At first I thought I may just have some HPPD going I passed it to the GF at the time "These orange hairs moving or is it just me" --- EWWW she throws the bag back to him. FUCKING GUY STILL SOLD IT AT 60 a 3.5. (Same dude that offed packs for 50)

wait 2 oz's into a shot; Is that kind of solubility possible? Wouldnt you have a mason jar worth of everclear --- how'd you get it down to two shots?

Just terrible isnt what im going for though -- maybe 1/2 oz shot.

BTW -- Credit where due ^ I figured if anyone figured it out it may be you based on some of those wicked trip reports
 
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I would be real careful with synthetic cannabinoids -- too many stories of ppl who 'cant get high of delta-9 anymore' --- i mean jwh products almost exclusively when I say that but id be careful with all of em.

my cannabinoid receptors are not ones I am willing to play with.....I learned my lesson with opi's
It was [stopped ~years ago]] playing with fire syntetics the perma tolerance one of them. But 4DQSAR brought it up. It was known the pyrolisis of some or a lot questionable. Without the fine tuned vapes using a torch. A part pyrolises, the bulb was black needed cleaning.

At times it felt disgusting vaping chems. Lucky i had a busy schedule so could use maybe 5 times a day max. or i d been in trouble. Addiction or ruiining my receptors. The cancer we ll see what happens with me the coming 20 years. I am a ongoing experiment of these on the human. Sad but true.

They not all, as the other irritating about these was the continues changing the chemicals as in some countrtys they got rapid illegalized. They never took of here, they are encountered in vapes for kids. Illlegal ones. Shit that has one floored within minutes. Happened at schools the youth catched up and so the gouvernement.

Whole diff scene though the illegal market aimed at kid vapes. Reloads on the schoolyard via app services. Crazy but real.

The one thing i did like about them the good ones. Was they at the correct dose made me have deep trips CB receptor mediated. But unlike Cannabis. Beyond greening out so to speak. But greening is something you get used to. Eventually when it doesnt cause psychosis.

Another problem i see with the class beside Black Mamba like effects. Another good warning. Something that can about take you out/ forget all your sorrow till a later moment. Is not good anyway, escapism. The method resembled Crack maybe the effcts more like Heroin in a way. Felt very secrectly druggy.

Did all my things that live requested that time. sort of 16 hour workdays not joking
 
One encounter with a fake Weed like Spice Gold on steroids.Left me speechless binned the leftovers but one or more very strong synthetics. In strenght it was one pinch and blackout but not instant lucid i could talk and move up the stairs and sleep it of. {even took Etizolam that bad as even with eyes closed i d trip internally]

Vendors freebie their version of something like Black Mamba. Whatever full agonising of CB1 and 2 receptors does. This guy also takes it far but seem in the Cannabis whole or maybe has a history with psychosis and or took other drugs.

Scary

 
How would I get like 5 g of live resin into a shot? Sounds like a good starting point for experimentation.

Convert thc-a to THC -- Than just put it in the 151/153 and shake it?? Or anything else I am missing. (Seems harder than that if I recall?)
 
keep the coyotes/wolves away right?"
Yes cuz coyotes and wolves will eat the buds lol?

wait 2 oz's
Like i said i dont know exact dose but id stuffed the mason with prolly 6 oz or so and i said 4 shots, it was about a cup maybe less. And it was maximum possible concentration it was actually dropping hash out so i added more everclear to get it all dissolved. THC is HIGHLY soluble in ethanol you can dissolve 1g in 1mL easily. Bacardi 151 would prolly work, but i chose everclear so minimal water/higher solubility.

Just drinking the shot was also terrible lol. It was like burning alcohol weed sludge. And because i let it soak for a week it grabbed a bunch of other not tasty plant compounds.

EWWW she throws the bag back to him. FUCKING GUY STILL SOLD IT AT 60
Well when we were teenagers there was a rumor that the budworms concentrate the THC so... not kidding i still sold some too, to happy customers. Im not proud of it, but i def smoked a bowl of orange worms. It doesnt work 🤢

-- I also had a crazy experience w JWH-210 where i had a OBE. Not a huge fan of the synthetics
 
RE: the plants -- basically the theory we were passed on was (The smell of) human piss keeps wolves coyotes away from plants? Is that untrue -- I have wolves and coyotes but have not tried laying piss lines out...

What is the proof on everclear again? I have not seen it around lately. Bicardi 151 and diesel 153.

So it is as easy as stir -- warming alcohol sounds a bit iffy to my dumb ass but im pretty sure ill manage

Thank you. Last time I tried to make "Green dragon" I felt I couldnt get enough THC into an amount of alcohol that wouldnt get me drunker than stoned
 
Everclear is 190 proof and usually only available at liquor stores.
It's that easy. Pour some of the everclear into a glass. Take pot of water and get warm on stove. Turn off flame. Take glass of everclear and place it in the hot water.
It doesn't need to be boiling it will just help a lot.

Only thing I'd be worried about is if you using rosin, you'll want to decarb it first.
 
Yes cuz coyotes and wolves will eat the buds lol?
They don't. But the deer will munch your plants before they even get a chance to bud. It's like they're drawn to them. They also love eating tomatoes before they get a chance to put off fruit (they eat the tops as soon as they pre-flower and leave the rest). I was taught from a young age to always piss around your garden and plants to keep animals out of it. It seems to work to some extent.

But for deer there is nothing better than my patented invisible fishing line fence. But you can't set those up in the middle of the woods without drawing unwanted attention so you have to resort to other methods. Like spreading around human hair and pee. Since animals will avoid the scent of a "predator".

I can say from first hand experience that pissing on plots where you've buried blood/bone meal deep in the ground or fish will keep animals from digging it up. I'd go piss on those plots multiple times over the winter. Since we'd dig about 3-6 feet down with post hole diggers in the fall, bury fish, blood/bone meal and other random stuff like that (mostly deer guts) for fertilizer. Then we'd return in the spring with some premixed grey cow shit+potting soil. Dig back down about halfway down the hole. Toss the soil we dug up into the bucket with the premix. Mix it all together well then throw it back in the hole. Piss on it all again really good and flood it with water. Then return to the hole/plot a couple of weeks later with plants we'd started indoors.

If you don't keep pissing on those plots over the winter desperate animals that can smell what's at the bottom of them will dig down looking for a meal and will ruin your plots. The piss seems to work well for larger animals like deer and coyotes/bears/etc. The human hair seems to keep smaller animals like rabbits, groundhogs, skunks and opossums away. Of course, nothing is perfect.

We did plots like that because most of the soil here was hard clay. You wanted to mix in some of the clay to hide your potting soil since black soil stands out for anyone looking from the air or ground level. Digging straight down with a pole hole digger makes a little shaft that will hold water. So as the plant's root system grows it can always find water at the bottom of the hole for many days after a good rain. Means you have to visit the plots less often in times of drought. Less you visit them the better. Since you leave a trail to them every time you go in and out no matter how careful you are (always have to alternate paths going in and out so you don't leave a path for others to follow). Throwing stuff like fish, deer, random bits of meat, bone and blood meal into the bottom of the hole makes use of stuff that would have otherwise gone to waste. Fertilizes the soil really well provided it has 3-5 months to sit in the ground before you plant anything over top of it.

We'd typically do 3 of those plots in each spot so it wouldn't attract attention and put off less of a smell. Always planted them around stuff like briers where they'd blend into the background and hopefully it would discourage people/animals from venturing in too deep. But those fucking deer man. They are machines. They'll sleep in the briers while munching on your plants. They never seem to touch a male plant either. They always wait until you've got some nice buds or pre-buds on a strong female before they show up and ruin your entire year. I can't stand deer. They'll eat just about anything to but it's like they have radar for weed. They'll pass by 100 other tasty wild plants no one gives a shit about just to eat the tops off your best female of the year.

Then they'll stroll through your front yard and do stuff like eat a random mushroom the internet swears is toxic to all animals. But deer? They give no fucks.

I think when the Mexicans say coyotes/wolves they're referring to the human border guards. The story I always got was pissing on it was to help mask the smell. Well that and for "good luck" and sticking it to the Americans north of the border that are going to be smoking it. Since what they pay for a small bag could feed a large family for a month in Mexico and the workers growing the stuff under harsh conditions aren't going to see 1/1000th of the profit.
 
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Everclear is 190 proof and usually only available at liquor stores.
It's that easy. Pour some of the everclear into a glass. Take pot of water and get warm on stove. Turn off flame. Take glass of everclear and place it in the hot water.
It doesn't need to be boiling it will just help a lot.

Only thing I'd be worried about is if you using rosin, you'll want to decarb it first.
alright 190 is significantly more -- makes sense why I failed last time.

Thank you. I thought everclear was 151 proof for some reason!
 
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