Esoteric Datura is an acid-like trip, amazing and wondrous

[doubledog]

Not yet, thanks for the tip, ancient drug recipes are really interesting area of study.
Old drug mixture called theriac is currently topic I am most interested in.

 

[Bitchniggaz]

tell us about datura combos.

i would love to hear about some lunatic combining the shit with pcp or acid.

DXM sigma plateau + datura….i would love to hear it.

probably would kill someone.

Look into Liber 420 and other sources that attempts to recreate ancient potions.
There is many referensences in it.

 

[Bitchniggaz]

Not yet, thanks for the tip, ancient drug recipes are really interesting area of study.
Old drug mixture called theriac is currently topic I am most interested in.

Its a lovely book that goes through history of alchemists, magicians and other people using drugs for spiritual reasons.
Has alot of cool pictures of ancient rituals etc.

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

Look into Liber 420 and other sources that attempts to recreate ancient potions.
There is many referensences in it.

thanks for the recommendation sounds really interesting. i love history for reading and combined with drugs it sounds right up my alley

 

[Esperighanto]

so do you have a trip report of the datura dom combo or can you describe it?

i wonder if there’s a combo where it would take all the fear and unpleasantness away from the datura trip and let you only experience the hallucinogenic effects. maybe datura + benzos + heroin + ketamine would smooth it out?

The datura and DOM combo was 25mg of intranasal DOM (I believe it's in the hydrochloride salt) was fascinating, it forced me to face some trauma I've spent like a decade and a half avoiding, hitting me with CEVs of the situation in a neon fashion that reminds me heavily of counterflipping. In fact, this entire experience felt like the DOx version of counterflipping if that makes sense, but I did redose the ointment about every 2 hours or so as it's quite brief, and that much DOM will last at least a couple days regardless of intranasal administration or not. Imo datura sort of loses its magic alongside benzos but monstrous amounts of properly administered gabapentin (300mg every 30 minutes w/ peanut butter) does not seem to dull the datura so much. I am intendong on trialing datura alongside pretty much any drug at my disposal now, it's a super fascinating thing. The way that datura can add color and vibrancy and seriousness and emotional intensity to a trip is certainly something of value.

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

The datura and DOM combo was 25mg of intranasal DOM (I believe it's in the hydrochloride salt) was fascinating, it forced me to face some trauma I've spent like a decade and a half avoiding, hitting me with CEVs of the situation in a neon fashion that reminds me heavily of counterflipping. In fact, this entire experience felt like the DOx version of counterflipping if that makes sense, but I did redose the ointment about every 2 hours or so as it's quite brief, and that much DOM will last at least a couple days regardless of intranasal administration or not. Imo datura sort of loses its magic alongside benzos but monstrous amounts of properly administered gabapentin (300mg every 30 minutes w/ peanut butter) does not seem to dull the datura so much. I am intendong on trialing datura alongside pretty much any drug at my disposal now, it's a super fascinating thing. The way that datura can add color and vibrancy and seriousness and emotional intensity to a trip is certainly something of value.

what is counter flipping ? even google doesn’t know and just gives me candy flipping results

 

[Pastel]

My friend took it and thought she was trapped in a painting for about a day. Honestly it sounds like dramamine except worse. Id rather cut my balls off and flush them down the toilet then try tripping on a deleriant again. Im not 12 anymore if i want a tryptamine ill go get a tryptamine. Or if i wanna go real crazy ill get salvia. Atleast you arent likely to go insane from it. Some people dont come back from datura

I actually find Salvia Divinorum worthwhile. I had one remarkable totally positive trip where I was visiting many transcendent worlds in a sequence, marveling at a complexity and perfection of each universe while feeling impending sadness at a foreboding of parting with one world followed by glowing joy of anticipation before I would move on to the next one.

 

[paranoid android]

I actually find Salvia Divinorum worthwhile. I had one remarkable totally positive trip where I was visiting many transcendent worlds in a sequence, marveling at a complexity and perfection of each universe while feeling impending sadness at a foreboding of parting with one world followed by glowing joy of anticipation before I would move on to the next one.

I love salvia. I remember when i first smoked it i loved it. Everyone thinks im weird cause of that lol

 

[Pastel]

Datura stories are indeed the best. Some are truely fucking terrifying. I dont actually remember much about dramamine but it felt very psychosis like. This makes sense as the new antipsychotic cobenfy targets the muscarinic receptors

Atleast i can say i took dramamine before the modern internet existed. I couldnt look up what will 25 fucking dramamine do to me? No i just read may cause drowsiness so i was kike awesome must be like valium. No no it was not at all like valium very unfortunately. I saw the spiders which seems to be a dramamine specific thing. People on benadryl seem to see the hatman not spders

I wonder which version of dramamine you took. There used to be dimenhydrinate and meclizine based medications. I hate anticholinergics and cannot tolerate anything outside of fexofenadine.

 

[Pastel]

tell us about datura combos.

i would love to hear about some lunatic combining the shit with pcp or acid.

DXM sigma plateau + datura….i would love to hear it.

probably would kill someone.

"DXM sigma plateau + datura"… sounds like a proper writing on a tomb stone!

 

[paranoid android]

I wonder which version of dramamine you took. There used to be dimenhydrinate and meclizine based medications. I hate anticholinergics and cannot tolerate anything outside of fexofenadine.

The dimenhydrinate one. Called gravol here in Canada. I only take anticholinerrgics in medical doses to help stop the itch or potentiate opiates

 

[Pastel]

Have you read Liber 420?
Its a book about the esoteric history of cannabis.

Sound like something from Aleister Crowley writings. If I didn't divert to psychoactive substances sometimes, I would be far further along on my thelemic path.

 

[Pastel]

Yeah this is definitely some dangerous shit the whole sigma plat + datura thing, but I mean, I have mixed datura with 25mg of intranasal DOM, 15mg of oral miprocin, 22.5mg of intranasal methamphetamine, a shockingly heady amount of etizolam+phenazolam dipped cigarettes, intranasal buspirone as well as oral buspirone, oral cyclobenzaprine, bupropion, caffeine, THC/HHC, smoked paper that had been loaded up with MDMB-4en-PINACA, 5F-ADB (aka MDMB-5F-PINACA), gabapentin, I'm sure a good handful of other things I'm overlooking right now. I've yet to have a bad time from slathering my wrists and temples in this ointment and feeling that warmth soak into my bloodstream, my fiance has enjoyed it so far too. I've actually killed a pretty shocking amount of this ointment in a short period of time, tbh.

Well, if you had taken enough etizolam/phenazolam, it would probably have knocked you out, cancelling everything else.
I assume that you had your morning coffee, were prescribed both buspirone, bupropion for mild dysthymia and depersonalization, took intranasal methamphetamine for sniffles from a flu and cyclobenzaprine to alleviate the associated body aches. The only thing that doesn't fit is gabapentin on top of cyclobenzaprine.

So you shockingly crazy drug escapade translates into a recreational mixing of Datura with tryptamines and having an equivalent of a bowl of weed.

 

[bigjackaal96]

what is counter flipping ? even google doesn’t know and just gives me candy flipping results

It DXM & DPH, You do a 2:1 ratio(200mg + 100mg) which 100% masks the deliriant dysphoria. If your doing datura you would need Delsym which Is DXM XR to match the 12+ dose length of Datura or scopolamine. The fun aspect It can produce visuals not seen In Dissos/deliriants If taken on their own.

 

[Esperighanto]

Well, if you had taken enough etizolam/phenazolam, it would probably have knocked you out, cancelling everything else.
I assume that you had your morning coffee, were prescribed both buspirone, bupropion for mild dysthymia and depersonalization, took intranasal methamphetamine for sniffles from a flu and cyclobenzaprine to alleviate the associated body aches. The only thing that doesn't fit is gabapentin on top of cyclobenzaprine.

So you shockingly crazy drug escapade translates into a recreational mixing of Datura with tryptamines and having an equivalent of a bowl of weed.

Idk man, the gabapentin, buspirone, bupropion and cyclobenzaprine were ~12 hours earlier so I doubt that any except the bupropion were still very present. The etizolam/phenazolam was on dipped cigarettes I smoked just before going to sleep, as a means to get to sleep as the DOM/Datura intersection made things somehow feel much more stimulating. The meth use is 1-3 intranasal doses of 7.5 in a day, or the same amount as oral doses, the affordable alternative to Adderall or Ritalin where I am right now. The line of DOM was taken 2-3 hours before the datura was administered, I was just giving a rundown of the full day, not a single instance of coadministration.

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

It DXM & DPH, You do a 2:1 ratio(200mg + 100mg) which 100% masks the deliriant dysphoria. If your doing datura you would need Delsym which Is DXM XR to match the 12+ dose length of Datura or scopolamine. The fun aspect It can produce visuals not seen In Dissos/deliriants If taken on their own.

it sounds insane.

DXm on its own is the weirdest drug in existence imo.

i wish i had done more combos with dxm but i retired permanently from psychedelics and dissociatives a decade ago.

i did combo dxm with opioids and nitrous a lot and synergy between dxm and opioids is unparalleled.

 

[BadBoy377]

Anyone tried FDCK?

Got some cheap recently. Probably says it all. Not even sure what to do with it.

All sensible suggestions considered f.

 

[Esperighanto]

Anyone tried FDCK?

Got some cheap recently. Probably says it all. Not even sure what to do with it.

All sensible suggestions considered f.

As in 2-FDCK, 2-Fluorodeschloroketamine? It's an all time favorite dissociative of mine, super bright and manic and colorful relative to ketamine. It's just ketamine with the phenyl ring's 3-chloro substitution replaced with a 2-fluoro, but it makes it orally active as well as intranasally, and it smokes alright but its N-ethyl homolog (CanKet, 2-F-O-PCE or 2-FXE are its many names afaik) smokes way better. I'd advise just orally or intranasally administering 25mg doses every 20-30 minutes until you get to where you want to be.

 

[BadBoy377]

As in 2-FDCK, 2-Fluorodeschloroketamine? It's an all time favorite dissociative of mine, super bright and manic and colorful relative to ketamine. It's just ketamine with the phenyl ring's 3-chloro substitution replaced with a 2-fluoro, but it makes it orally active as well as intranasally, and it smokes alright but its N-ethyl homolog (CanKet, 2-F-O-PCE or 2-FXE are its many names afaik) smokes way better. I'd advise just orally or intranasally administering 25mg doses every 20-30 minutes until you get to where you want to be.

That's the one.

What about smoking? Ok to use in a clean meth style oil burner? Or something else perhaps?

Anything to definitely avoid with it?

Cheers, that's really help though. Appreciate the reply.

 

[Esperighanto]

That's the one.

What about smoking? Ok to use in a clean meth style oil burner? Or something else perhaps?

Anything to definitely avoid with it?

Cheers, that's really help though. Appreciate the reply.

I used a dab nail, no clue how an oil burner would do with it tbh I just vape everything out of dab rigs bc I'm as comfortable with the rig as I am with my own two hands haha. I would avoid anything you'd avoid with ketamine or PCP, you know? Don't take a bath, don't mix it with emetic drugs, etc.

Glad it's helpful man!