That show, The Knick, is pretty good though, right?
I would like to clarify a few things, because, like most people, I'm a self-absorbed hypocrite (for real, I've
definitely been full of shit more than once in my life, sometimes knowingly). So please don't be offended, and know that there's no reason to beat up on me, either. I'm on your side. Ok so let's do this.
yea it sounds angry to you because it has struck such nevrve
No, you haven't struck any nerve, and my feelings aren't hurt. I hope I haven't hurt yours, and I genuinely apologize if I've inadvertently done so. You do seem
upset if I'm being honest, but hold on! Please don't just stop reading and start responding. Please hear me out and read my whole comment first.
that you ppl cling to and assign so much meaning and hope (cope) to without a shred of evidence for these things .
When you say, "you ppl", I realize you've made the wrong assumptions about me. I promise you we're on the same side, you just have to read what I'm saying more carefully.
I do like your hope (cope) thing, and I want you to know that my mention of your trauma was
not intended as a dig at you. Lord (or whatever) knows, I've suffered trauma as I've mentioned on this forum in the past. All I was trying to tell you is that I empathize.
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fine though. probably the happiest i’ve ever been in life these days.
Who are you trying to convince?
Take a deep breath.
Patience, brother. Life is vexing. One love.
Yes, I know those words repulse you; please, stop hearing them in some insincere hippie-dippy bullshit way. I live in New York City, and I promise you no one who knows me would describe me as a hippy or hippie or howeverTF you spell that word. I think you and I have more in common than not.
Typical breeder? I have zero kids and zero plans to
breed if I may borrow your term. That's a weird slur, btw, though now I have "Cannonball" by the Breeders playing in my head, and I love that song.
“you’re ok with death, euthanasia etc? - you don’t believe in god or supernatural stuff ??!!!”
Goddamn, the person that you think I am, like how you must picture me in your head? … is one hilariously shitty person. For starters, I would never ask these questions in some shocked or incredulous way. Also, I am okay with death including euthanasia ("if the first half of the movie sucked, no one should blame you if you leave the theater; it's probably not gonna get better in the second half" –Doug Stanhope). Furthermore, you're doing these atheist flexes on the wrong person. I'm not impressed by this stuff, nor am I at all shocked or whatever to hear someone say they don't believe in God (god, Glob, J.R. Bob Dobbs, Beelzebub, Loki, doG, Dog or whatever sufficiently sacrilegious thing I need to say to get you to realize I don't really give a fuck about sacrilege, atheism, and/or posturing like any of that shit matters. Do you get what I'm saying?
I've read Richard Hawkins, The God Delusion. I don't mean to sound Jaded, but none of this is new to me. This shit gets old, and I find that I eventually just can't keep caring what people think, which is ironically what I'm hypocritically doing now.
“wow! you must hate yourself and be angry”
No, no, I was definitely not saying that, and I'm sorry if people have said this to you in the past. That's shitty. I better word was probably
upset, and you do seem upset, and I'm sure it's not for no reason.
I would not say this to someone. That would be a deplorable and dangerous thing to tell someone. Please do not put that evil on me, as I would not put that upon you.
that’s basically the only responses you guys always give when your deepest fears get triggered.
Again, wrong target, though I'm starting to suspect you might be projecting your own fears a bit here.
i stopped believing in santa claus…
Wait, Santa isn't real?
then later on i stopped believeing in religions or god in general, then also stopped believing psychedelic delusions about the same stuff.
Yes! That is what I like to hear! You're on the right path, please, keep going. Are you familiar with the numerological references in the song Lateralus by Tool?
i stick to what there is evidence for.
Exactly. You sound just like me nearly thirty years ago, sitting sober and meditating on these things deeply while studying abroad and on a spiritual quest. I've mostly said the same things, and at one point, for about three years, I was despondent over the knowledge that when we die, that's it, game over. Pondering these things depressed me but I pretended it didn't bother me, proudly declaring my atheism and trying to sound brave when I claimed I didn't fear death. I hid my depression and drank myself stupid at the time. I refer to this spell in my life as "seeking oblivion". Some people never manage to make it out of that particular trap, seeking oblivion though alcoholism, and it kills them. They never stop seeking oblivion, and I think I know why. Others seek oblivion with opioids. Anything to quell the agony of having an ego. But fortunately I pulled through that spell through an unlikely mechanism, but everyone's path is different.
if there isn’t evidence i don’t make up that said thing exists because it makes me feel cope full (hopeful).
Boy, you really love that hope/cope word play. Did you come up with that yourself, or is that from something? Feels kinda twelve step-ish.
not everyone grows out of believing in santa, god, immortal consciousness etc.
I mean, unless you die when you're a child,
of course you stop believing in Santa. I never believed in him in the first place though on account of having an older brother who liked to spoil surprised for me. But keep that line going and it's like this…
Belief in: Santa/Easter Bunny → God / superstition → Immortal consciousness / religion → Atheism practically fellating itself → Pseudoscience posturing as enlightenment → Agnosticism smug in its superiority complex → Holy Fuck! You mean some of that hippie bullshit might actually be true?
not everybody takes decades to study the sciences and find out how life could happen without magic.
Lol, boy you really don't know who you're talking to at all. Why would you make such ignorant assumptions about me? It's hilarious. Forgive me for getting into my ego here, but if you took 3 minutes to skim through my comment history on this forum, you might peep that I've cracked open a few science textbooks once or twice in my life, if you catch my drift. I'm not some idiot kid talking out of my ass. You have to go to Reddit for that. Please tell me the insults stop here.
some of us are busy flipping burgers or digging ditches
–.– that's fucked up.
or just don’t have the discipline or intellect to understand how life can happen without magic, i get it .
No, you really don't. Do you not see how smug and fugly this attitude is? Because man, it's bad. You're trying so hard to belittle me that you completely missed that I was the wrong target, but you fired on me anyway. If and when you read this, you'll realize the mistake you made, and then I wonder: are you going to backtrack, double-down, or pretend to ignore? Not a good look no matter what and this is why you should try to control these emotional outbursts a little better.
Getting back on topic, of course it's possible to only enjoy drugs on the weekends. I know a shitload of ravers who do this nearly every Friday and Saturday night, recover on Sunday, and go back to work Monday. I know even more people who drink and do coke on the weekends according to this pattern. Idk if you consider coke a hard drug or not, but some ppl do. So of course weekends-only use is possible. Do you agree or no dice?
I'm just messing with you. Look, it's a quote from the late stand-up comic, Bill Hicks, and it was sampled and used by Tool on the album "Ænima". No one's trying to challenge your atheism. It was just an offhanded comment thrown in there for fun. For the record, I'm not in my twenties and I'm not delusional. I respect the fact that you think consciousness ends upon death. I used to say the same thing too so I could break myself of that notion and perhaps shock a few people into questioning their beliefs, and I'll still play that card from time to time when the situation calls for it.
