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Experiences I think about god, faith, religion etc a lot

Somehow I got lost trying to understand previous posts, perhaps it’s my own vanity but I have to ask are you talking to me or in general?
I’ve always maintained the insignificance of human pride, seeing the universe as if especially created for us alone.
 
JackARoe said:
LOL Lucid! Just realized that was you, very happy you are back. We need your point of view for balancing anything off balance. Very true though, they don't look up into the sky with their heads up their ass.


That was what was missing here. I remember Rust Cole on True Detective. That guy was the most atheist atheist I had ever heard talk. Yet
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thanks. yes i’m back. this has got to be the most tolerant place on the internet for my worldview - which that you mention rustin cole , it’s that exact world view

more than athiesm or materialism. the characters ideology is rooted in what is known as antinatalism or efilism (the believe that life has negative value and shouldn’t exist / it is immoral to create life - or simply that nonexistence is better than existence/life - or that a spec of bad always outweighs a mountain of good) components of the broader philosophy of formal pessimistic philosophy- with a dash of nihilism thrown in. these views get you banned from every app or website on the internet except bluelight - so here i am - plus the drug thing.

rustin coles character was based off the book “The conspiracy against the human race” by thomas lisgotti. Pizzolitto was sort of caught plagiarizing the book because he didn’t give it credit initially and some of rustins quoted are lifted from the book. it’s not the best book on the topic in terms of being an engaging read but it is the best book on the topic of antinatlism/ efelism in terms of laying out the arguments for it and why people
are so triggered by it based on human nature and evolution. It’s not as much from a scientific and evolutionary perspective as i would like but it takes the reader through literary and philosophical history at where this ideology kept coming up before it was even formally established and named.

anyways it’s my main belief system and framework for understanding the world and life so i LOVE rustin cole - he had morals and justice, at the same time he was antinalist, and he was a dope fiend, stoic and just a badass MF to top it off.

i watched that series at a time having no idea what it was about and as rustin revealed himself i was amazed to see these viewpoints being slipped into modern media. they are subtle but if you’re aware of the background of how the character was conceived it jumps out at you when he pontificates.

i wouldn’t say he acknowledged anything special at the end beyond the fact that he was in a hallucinatory coma daze and was feeling the emotion of love
for his dead daughter. love is dopamine and oxytocin etc being released in response to a stimulus or memory so it’s just a materialistic experience he had at the end of the day imo
 
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M!$TER-ED said:
As anyone who reads P&S forum will likely agree from my posts “ I think about god, faith, religion etc a lot. Not to come to a conclusion, or to recruit, judge, sway, or influence but to celebrate humanities diverseness in reasoning and understanding.

In my opinion there is no right or wrong belief system, however, there is a difference in the way believers and nonbelievers brains are hardwired. According to psychology today, religious believers are more likely to use intuitive and heuristic reasoning while nonbelievers are likely to use deliberative and analytical reasoning.

Nonbelievers are likely to process sensory information from they see in a deliberate manner, this is called top-down processing that involves reasoning. In contrast, religious believers are likely to interpret visual information more emotionally than intuitively, this is called Bottom-up processing, which involves ancient brain systems. Religious believers share bottom-up bias with people who believe in supernatural or paranormal activity, including telekinesis, or clairvoyance. Recent evidence suggests that religious fundamentalists have a network of brain regions located in the right hemisphere that may be damaged by injury or simply inherited.

Paranormal believers thinking is frequently biased by intuitive beliefs. An analysis of brain states showed that paranormal belief is related to the reduced power of alpha, beta and gamma frequency bands, indicative of a reduced level of inhibitory control and critical analysis of incoming sensory information. paradoxically, the number people who express interests in religion is decreasing, however, belief in the paranormal is becoming increasingly popular.

Is the human brain evolving away from one form of fantasy beliefs while embracing another? Anthropologists estimate that at least 18,000 different gods, goddesses, and various animals or objects have been worshipped by humans since our species first appeared. Evolution has clearly selected for a brain that has the ability to accept a logically absurd world of supernatural causes and beings.

www.psychologytoday.com

Brains of Believers and Nonbelievers Are Wired Differently

Not believing in gods or ghosts is more than just being skeptical; it's due to discrete, stable, higher-level brain activity patterns.
www.psychologytoday.com www.psychologytoday.com


A final word: If as humans we respected our differences and unique qualities as a source for growth and learning as a society rather than judging and excluding people unlike ourselves, we as a society may become more than what we are.
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Theres probably a grand creator of it all but I dont believe in the Bible version.
 
Even thew thought of a grand creator boggles my mind. No less than the bible's version...a grand creator hmm IDK
 
CalicoCatLover said:
I feel like organized religion is pretty much a piece of shit
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M!$TER-ED said:
Believers consider themselves better off than nonbelievers because they have god. If a person goes through life believing in god and does not question the validity of their beliefs. I doubt they would know the difference.
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I am a Christian and I agree with all of this. I think the hypocrisy and self righteousness that’s seen in the behavior of the typical Christian is exactly what turns people away from God the most. I live right in the middle of the Bible Belt where there’s a Baptist church on every corner. People around here just believe in God because of the cultural influence but most wouldn’t recognize Jesus if He literally appeared in front of them out of thin air. Theres Christian’s that can’t stand the fact that I’m on suboxone and think I’m going to the same heaven they are. But in all truth I feel like my battle with addiction has been to my faiths advantage. Addiction humbles you in a way like nothing else does. Because of it I’ve never been comfortable long. Maybe that’s a lot of the difference. People place their comfort above the call to just love one another

I think a lot of people have a hard time believing in God because of the problem with pain and the idea that a lot of Christian’s are always taunting…”God is in control”. People are always saying God is in control. It’s said a lot so people just simply believe it. Regardless of the circumstances….Gods in control…..

A kid gets on drugs but God is in control….

The rents not paid but God is in control….

That’s scary to contemplate. Like when someone gets m*rdered…how are we suppose to take comfort in thinking that God was in control? What would that even look like?

Does that mean that God made the devil make them m*rder just so He could then judge them for the crimes they done that He essentially made them do??

Imo a god like that would be very hard to have faith in. This would make Him very unjust.

But then again if God is all powerful and all knowing how can we conclude anything other than that God is in control?

But it’s because God in His sovereignty limits His own control by playing by His own rules.

God has supreme rule but He also has order. In His order He upholds laws that even He doesn't break. One of those laws is free will. God gives people free will….which means our will may be contrary to His. So this also means that we can make things happen on the Earth that God doesn't agree with. If this is true then the Bible will acknowledge that God's will isn't always done because He makes room for the reality of alternative possibilities……

God’s will does not automatically manifest on this Earth. It’s the believers job to manifest Gods will here on earth. It’s just that we fail at it miserably tho. But our hope is not based on our circumstances because we have the promise of Jesus’s return. He is coming back to get us and He will return what the locust has taken. Gods wrath is due. People are sacrificing babies. They fixing to find out.

@M!$TER-ED I think you genuinely just have a sincere desire to really understand the truth and I pray that you find it in a way that completely satisfies your heart and brings you peace of mind. I pray that for us all. I love BL just because the people here are so uniquely genuine ❤️
 
I feel like a hypocrite talking about God on here cause I’m such a sinner. Plus I’m running from my purpose. I’m like the extreme of both ends. So I’m not a good witness to my faith because my behavior is not how I wish to be. I just suck with self control and self discipline. If I like it I love it and all I want is more of it lol

So please know that I’m not claiming to be any kind of an example. I’m a mess. But I do know what I believe. Sanctification is a life long process. I just really struggle with it. But thank God my salvation isn’t dependent on me. There’s nothing too dirty that He can’t make worthy. I’ve been washed in the blood of His sacrifice. His blood is what makes me white. My dirty rags have been purified and because of Him I am clean❤️
 
Kellsee said:
I feel like a hypocrite talking about God on here cause I’m such a sinner. Plus I’m running from my purpose. I’m like the extreme of both ends. So I’m not a good witness to my faith because my behavior is not how I wish to be. I just suck with self control and self discipline. If I like it I love it and all I want is more of it lol

So please know that I’m not claiming to be any kind of an example. I’m a mess. But I do know what I believe. Sanctification is a life long process. I just really struggle with it. But thank God my salvation isn’t dependent on me. There’s nothing too dirty that He can’t make worthy. I’ve been washed in the blood of His sacrifice. His blood is what makes me white. My dirty rags have been purified and because of Him I am clean❤️
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I relate to what you are saying and at one time I felt the same as described. I think people are where they are in life because that is where they need to be.
I don’t know your background or age or anything but I may be older than you. I didn’t get to where I’m at today overnight, years of living and experience got me here. This is true with everyone, Make your own path, if your belief system works for you, so be it.
 
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donotdothis said:
such a deceptive God.
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I don’t think the deception has anything to do with god.
Humans choose what they believe. Unfortunately in the case of god the mystery is in what is not rather than what is.
 
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i fuck with Santa Muerte even though i don’t believe in it….i have an altar for her and the egyptian god basthet in my house
 
It is interesting how the bible frames Adam & Eve being cast out of the garden of eden. God's one rule is not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. So Adam & Eve eat from the tree, their entire perception of the world and and themselves changed. Godlike innocents is gone, the veil of deception is lifted and for the first they each other naked, I think the bible says they were ashamed of their nakedness? Anyway god called out to them and they hid because they guilt and remorse for disobeying god...the only relationship they had going at the time was with their creator.

So now Adam & Eve have been exposed to a world, a concept, a place god was trying to protect them from...or so it seems. The bible frames this as Adam & Eve disobeying god and being cast out into a world of sin and degradation. The bible version makes me feel bad for disobeying and being punished for my disobedience, humanity is cursed from that moment on by sin. The only remedy is conveniently made possible through your local faith-based religious affiliation who happens to support the only way to salvation through Jesus Christ.

During the course of one's life you are given an opportunity to know god through Jesus. Maybe you're going through a rough time, and the way western civilization knows how to make you feel better is by surrounding yourself to Jesus, the light of the world. Emotions come into play, you are moved by set and setting. Out of desperation and desire you commit yourself to god's service. Now you are a part of something greater than yourself, you participate in what this new social venture has to offer. The more you participate the deeper you are convinced you and others like you are special. You are the chosen hand picked by god to carry out gods will in every aspect of your life.

The more you immerse yourself into becoming like Jesus, studying gods word, attending worship services, the more and more you do these things the less likely you will question gods will for you. Christianity covers all of the bases to prevent heresy. The bible is very explicit in warning gods people not to stray away from him. God's wrath is seen throughout the Old Testament, these examples of gods rage were not written by coincidence, they send a message to every believer who questions or doubts god will.

The other thing is if it happens, it is gods will, or it was meant to happen. This is magical thinking and gives the impression no matter what kind of shit show you go through in life, don't worry god's got you covered. I leaned a long time ago, I am responsible for my own life and with that responsibility I am likewise accountable for everything that involves me.
 
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