Harm Reduction Sublingual use causing skin to come off in my mouth - Binder irritation?

[placebonaut]

This just started happening, I'm taking 1g soma sublingually and leaving the pills in for a long time is causing some skin to peel off my gums on the inside where the pill sits - it's pretty minor and similar, but not as bad, as when you get a small burn and then a blister. There's no blister here but it's almost as if the pill has chemically burnt my mouth.

I don't get this issue with benzos, though they are much smaller than the beast of 500mg soma pill!

Clearly I'm going to stop doing this but wondered if anyone has an idea of what's going on and the best way to take pills via this ROA for Soma?

I've left the pills there for some time until what I assume all is left are the fillers and binders, I suspect these are the cause of my minor problem as they can cause irritation, can anyone confirm or give other ideas?

Previously I'd be swallowing what's left when I get to this stage, have been doing it this way for ages without any problem, so can simply go back to this strategy and not leave them in as long. I don't think I'm getting any more benefit with this length of time vs my previous shorter duration.

I wonder if it might be better though to crush/chew the pills before sublingual use, that would be faster and then when I feel I'm down to binder just swallow.

Any thoughts or advice? not something I'm not worried about it but no point doing something that's doing this to my body! NB: I'm reducing my soma usage right now so that will help as well.

Yes I know I can just eat them, but sublingual soma is a far better ROA IMHO.

EDIT: anyone had anything similar with other drugs?

 

[placebonaut]

started chewing the Soma up a bit and then sticking it under my tongue, seems to have just as quick an onset (if not faster), but is gone from my mouth much faster.

no burns, much better way to take it

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

I was taking some of those 7-OH tablets that are being sold everywhere using sublingual because I read that it's a better ROA. The guy at the store gave me three brands of tablets for free. Two were in blister packs and contained only 4 pills. The other freebie was a bottle of 10 pills. I won't name brands and I know the advertised dosage is probably incorrect. But they are effective and I'm sure they have what they claim to have in them.

Anyway, with one particular brand I noticed irritation under my tongue in the days following using them. I was breaking them into four pieces and taking them slowly like that over the course of 30 minutes or so. I never took more than two in one night.

Some of them were crumbly and dissolved quickly and others were hard as a rock. This was the same brand out of the same package.

I ceased using them and after 3-4 days the irritation was gone. I forget what it's called but it was the gland where saliva comes out and the skin around it that was sore. When I'd gleek into my mouth I would have slight pain. I ceased using the pills and it went away after a few days.

Since there have been many report of people using pure 7-HO I'm pretty sure the binders these people producing these pills are using aren't the safest stuff in the world. They didn't intend for people to use that ROA and there is no oversight at all. So who knows what they're using to make them.

I haven't tried to use Soma through this ROA before. We always swallowed them when we had them around. Well I did I've seen idiots snort them. At any rate I can't help you with that. But I can say for sure I've used other pills in the past and now these 7-HO smoke shop pills through sublingual ROA and gotten slight irritation like a mild burn before. It's binders I think but it would always be the pill just running up against the skin in the mouth.

It's important to remember that using some of these ROAs is not without risk. Even the safer ones like sublingual. You're forcing your body to absorb a chemical and everything else that is in the pill. If you keep using the same spot eventually it's going to react because it's dealing with a forgin substance all of the time. It's like using IV ROA. You have to rotate veins because eventually that one is going to collapse if you keep poking it.

Most pills contain silica. as a binding agent I wonder if the irritation is simply from it rubbing up against the skin in your mouth. You could also be allergic to one of the binders they use. That's my best guest.

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

I should have added my general tip. I too have never had an issue with xanax no matter the kind I was using.

My tip with sublingal ROA is to have a bottle of water around. If you can't work up enough saliva sip enough water and let some sit under your tounge with the pills it seems to help things along and causes less irritation. They certainly disolve faster. I usually always break them into small pieces before I stick them under there. I try not to chew pills because they're really bad for your teeth. I also try to hold the disolved water+spit+active chemical under my toungue because I don't want them touching my teeth.

Some substances are really bad for your teeth. The bupe strips they hand out to everyone at the clinic are awufl. They take forever to discolve and they rot your teeth out.

 

[placebonaut]

yeah I'm pretty much concluded it's a binder issue as well, I should try and figure out what they use but have a good workaround so not much motivation to look into it more

thanks for the tips, will try and do it this way going forward

Some substances are really bad for your teeth. The bupe strips they hand out to everyone at the clinic are awufl. They take forever to discolve and they rot your teeth out.

not heard this before, I guess acidity might be 1 factor, good to know though

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Yeah I think it hurting your teeth is something with the pH getting wacky in your mouth. Kind of like when you vomit. You're not supposed to brush your teeth after you vomit because it will strip the enamel off of them I think. l I've noticed tablets and bupe that have a somewhat sweet taste for lack of a better term are worse in this respect.

Another thing is the dye being used in the tablets to give them color. Many people are allergic to certain dyes and some dyes are known to be very harmful to the body. FDA has approved a bunch of shit over the years that is straight poison when it comes to dyes to color food and other products.